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BTW anyone saying their panel is solid CREE and that is has 660nm is LYING to you. Cree hasn't made 660nm in a couple of years now.

Wrong. You don't run them at full power because of droop. They aren't burning out at full power because that's where they get tested and that's where the data sheets get their info frm.

" but kessil is based in california DICON makes their stuff and DICON makes government shit all day. So you know your getting the highest quality" That's why a bunch of people ar reprting Kessil units burnign out? Yea right, bro. Highest quality my ass.

EVERY company makes money on that shipping charge. At MINIMUM $5. Don't fool yourself. That's how the shippers work. I used to work for UPS.

Can't put out good information when the information isn't all that good in tha first place yo. In da meantime, homeboy from egl just busted out with a new commercial crop system using even LESS power per square meter. http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2il1ydc&s=7 Is anyone else even trying to...

I see ppl still relying upon nonsense journals. http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2q0srxi&s=7 meanwhile the real player in LED technology has already partnered with Sharp Electronics to produce systems that cover 10x10 footprints with a mere 50w light and still get the same crop yields suckas

u cant clone frm fan leaf but you can clone from the base of the leaf where the diff cels are in the internode but its expensive for the setup

if 3w isn't true then why is OSRAM popping out almost a 5w single-chip diode http://catalog.osram-os.com/catalogue/catalogue.do?favOid=000000030002a14801f30023&act=showBookmark OSRAM being one of the top led manufacturers on the globe

zero tolerance for bullshit bro you should have known this by now say ANYTHING bullshit and expect me to call you out on it once im done researching it this entire world can't advance as long as people try to speak like they know wtf they're saying when they don't know at all. in this entire...

saw a thread on an image board where dude had a quanta meter for checing hid and led 300w true led = photon density of 1,000w hps in a hood

Oh, and you say LEDs for cars came out last year? The first series-production LED headlamps were factory-installed on the Lexus LS 600h / LS 600h L presented in 2007 as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#LED_light_sources Try four.

"now u might have problems in reading or understand english" Says the person that doesn't understand what replica means

the led was first made in the 1900s before the great depression maybe if you botered to look up on wikipedia you said exactly 'replica' the definition of replica is 'copy' a semiconductor chip is far from a copy of a pressurized gas tube can you even understand your own words bro

"i dont think led's are better then HID's beacuse led are replicas of HID's" gas-based pressurized tube versus semiconductr chip and you say led is a replica of hid wat

bet thats the same company look at my panel disasembled from egl note writign at bottom those are 3w NLX-5 or NLX-6 diodes both rated for 3w get a magnifying glas and check the patter on the top f the diode thats your identifying mark

lgled is using 3w diodes the panels i have are using those bridgelux ones i mentioned back a few pages they justaint bein driven at full power

those panels i've loaded up on have the same diodes acros the front so egl has them as well but quick disassembly shows egl uses lg-led the website written right on the panel bet a quick open up of any of those others might show the same thing that would explain sudden switch everyone movedto a...

path of lest resistance bro thats why there are resistors on there now on the other hand they do make special leds with higher resistance but they are lower efficiency and so they arent as good thats why they are not in panels today i just found out my egl panels hae UV in them the blue diodes...

i wonder why use a bypas resitor wen you could use a light emitting diode of a higher resistance in the first place and if one diode fails the one of higher resistance acts as a bypas and keeps the light nearly the same also the 1w diodes ib my old 90w that i shiped back were bigger than 1mm^2...

"Good to know you're done hating on LEDs" i never said once i hateon LEDs i said i hate the bullshit marketing holy hell do i need to go back to every post i've made and quote it out for you and put the relevant parts in bold so you can finaly see that everyone jumping on me is ful of shit or...