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hello all u hydro growers

looks like i am coming to join u


but befre i dive in i needed some advice

i am working with a tent system .......4x4x6 for veggie and a 5x5x6 for flowering

i am going LED .....for the lower watts and amps .........thinking a 900w for the veggie and a 1500w for the flower(i like over kill factor)

but the system i am going to use is a?
i was thinking a dwc in the veegie they are on the own bucket but when they get to flowering i would be a RDWC for the easy of watering and PHing

i have 2 choices
1 i can buy a system .............i like this one
2 i can build it ................this would be the design i copy ......would buy this one but 600 bucks i could build it cheaper


when the veggie looked good i would move the basket with the plant and roots over to the flowering and when the flowering was done i take the basket out put it on a bucket clip dry and clean the basket for the next veggie plant


so does this sound like a op that would work
i grow autos for the short turn arounds and the ablity to grow different strains at the same time with about the same target dates


if not clue me in ...........i only done one dwc my 2nd is going but the results justify move from soil to hydro even tho i could lose it all if power goes out in a storm in my area

thanks

make your own system for less than 100.00

or

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ON-SALE-Hydroponic-Aeroponic-4-Bucket-System-Grow-Huge-Plants-With-Hydroponics-/331145432041?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item4d19ce4be9&_uhb=1 aeroponic

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Deep-Water-Culture-DWC-Hydroponic-Bubbler-4-Bucket-Kit-by-PowerGrow-Systems-6-/161239905746?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item258aa5b5d2&_uhb=1 bubbleponic

undercurrent is overkill and fucking insanely priced for some plastic and a pump.

justugh said:

i am going LED .....for the lower watts and amps .........thinking a 900w for the veggie and a 1500w for the flower(i like over kill factor)

thanks

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Your first mistake.

- Jiji

well i need that extra water in the mixing cell

during flowering the plants i have worked on are pulling alot of water( gallon to gallon and half near end a day) ..........so to fill up each tank by itself and then rePH it 2 3 times a day the mixing cell is the better of the 2 options ...........if i could i would use a float fill valve (but i have no water hook up in that room and would mean running a hose tho a area with high traffic )............doing it in the veggie is no biggie since that rarly changes maybe 10 oz of water re ph it it every 3 days

if this system sounds right once i get it inplace i was going to get a 55 gallon water barrel and fill that every 2 weeks sue the water in there for the system in the room ....i can use a hose and put it away

jijiandfarmgang said:

Your first mistake.

- Jiji

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why ............i have Hids now but the amount of power will blow that rooms breakers (current have set up going to 3 different breakers 2 600s 1 1000 and a bunch of fans and air pumps)

LED the watts they drawl are about 1/2 the listed rating and the amps are tiny...........with those i could run the whole room on one breaker and still have 4 amps left reducing the power by nearly half what i am using

i was not going cheap LED i did my work 90 degree angle 10 band 11 if i can get it ....but i want white 12000k IR and UVB plus the other normal ones

justugh said:

well i need that extra water in the mixing cell

during flowering the plants i have worked on are pulling alot of water( gallon to gallon and half near end a day) ..........so to fill up each tank by itself and then rePH it 2 3 times a day the mixing cell is the better of the 2 options ...........if i could i would use a float fill valve (but i have no water hook up in that room and would mean running a hose tho a area with high traffic )............doing it in the veggie is no biggie since that rarly changes maybe 10 oz of water re ph it it every 3 days

if this system sounds right once i get it inplace i was going to get a 55 gallon water barrel and fill that every 2 weeks sue the water in there for the system in the room ....i can use a hose and put it away

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I own both the systems I posted. I can offer help if that's what you want. I'm not sure what your going on about maybe I'm too medicated.

Canook guy

[video=youtube;WiqXYARY0h0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiqXYARY0h0[/video]

the one i will have will not return the water when the feeder bucket gets low a automatic stwich like your toilet fill valve goes off and put the water back to the correct lvl in the system

this is what i would like to end up with ..............than i can buy one of these to keep the PH perfect

something like this would allow me to close the door and not come in for 2 to 4 days then i need to add some feed to system and every 10 days i change the water out and move to the next stage

my very first DWC i was about to get 5 times the normal ammount i get out of soil so if i can tune it to less work but better flowers and amount i can lower my prices to the ppl i help ........i currently ask 300 a oz but i like to get it to 200 so ppl near want to give me up if they get caught

justugh said:

Canook guy

[video=youtube;WiqXYARY0h0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiqXYARY0h0[/video]

this is what i would like to end up with ..............than i can buy one of these to keep the PH perfect

something like this would allow me to close the door and not come in for 2 to 4 days then i need to add some feed to system and every 10 days i change the water out and move to the next stage

my very first DWC i was about to get 5 times the normal ammount i get out of soil so if i can tune it to less work but better flowers and amount i can lower my prices to the ppl i help ........i currently ask 300 a oz but i like to get it to 200 so ppl near want to give me up if they get caught

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Thats nice wish I had the room for something like that.

The bubbers I got I have to fill almost every day but I don't mind as it give me a chance to look the plants over good to make sure nothing wrong. The aeroponics was different as there is a res and you don't need alot of water for it to work as your just spraying the roots with mist so I was only filling the res once a week.

i have a 12 x12 x 7 room

1 window with a big bush infront of it and one door in ..............it is the room i live in the tents are in the main room i am going to move them inhere becuase then i can controll the smell and what is seen much easier (my firends are getting pissed that i will not let them in i am worried they are going to just come in to see what is up)


u can make one ............the55 gallon barrells are cheap and u do not need a black since it is only going to hold water

the mixing cell is the key with the water return it keeps it mixing back with the fresh so all the plants get even amounts and very little settle in the system from particals

i am not sure but in theroy the water should stay a more stable temp since it is always moveing it will equal out then hold ......led lights should not make it aborb to much heat

justugh said:

i have a 12 x12 x 7 room

1 window with a big bush infront of it and one door in ..............it is the room i live in the tents are in the main room i am going to move them inhere becuase then i can controll the smell and what is seen much easier (my firends are getting pissed that i will not let them in i am worried they are going to just come in to see what is up)

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I got two 4x4x8 tents but have a 10x10x10 shipping as we speak.

Popcorn900 said:

I got two 4x4x8 tents but have a 10x10x10 shipping as we speak.

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keep the 4x4s

use one as a dry area..........u can controll the light the humidity and the temp easy use a carbon filter with a passive intake u smell nothing until the doors open
the other one i use for a starter tent ........a set of t5s and all the plants start in there under them then over to the big tent under the stronger ones .......and if u get a huge one use it as a 2nd dry tent

justugh said:

keep the 4x4s

use one as a dry area..........u can controll the light the humidity and the temp easy use a carbon filter with a passive intake u smell nothing until the doors open
the other one i use for a starter tent ........a set of t5s and all the plants start in there under them then over to the big tent under the stronger ones .......and if u get a huge one use it as a 2nd dry tent

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I'm going to use the 4x4's for trophy plants"mainlined to 32" and the 10x10 for twice a year grows that's my plan. I got grows going in both tents right now so I have planning time but ya one plant mainlined to 32 tops should fit nicely in the 4x4's and I am thinking of two 600w hids for the 10x10 and a 12 pot areoponics setup.

i have something that might change your mind

here is my first DWC 110 days 23 oz 22 grams

that is the whole reason i am moving from soil ............if i do this right i can only grow for half a year and have enough to help out all my buddies all year long plus my own supply at a reduced cost to boot

justugh said:

i have something that might change your mind

here is my first DWC 110 days 23 oz 22 grams

that is the whole reason i am moving from soil ............if i do this right i can only grow for half a year and have enough to help out all my buddies all year long plus my own supply at a reduced cost to boot

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A single plant 23 zips! Your doing something right. I don't grow for others but I do grow for two. (And we didn't talk about that ok rcmp I have no illegal grows I destroyed my plants in cat litter as instructed in my letter I got).So hypothetically the 10x10 will produce enough in two grows to supply us for a year and the 4x4's is a bonus.

that was a auto plant

if u ran those 1 grow u would be done in about 78 days 90 days from seed to smoke .............running the numbers auto plants are the most effective at keep the running cost there for the price u part with low

this whole thing i am building is on 30 cycle i should be bring in about 3 lbs ......i run different strains right now i have over 11 differnet autos and like 50 photo seeds

if i do this right in 2 months i could afford to get this it has 6 slots for feeding and 2 slots for PHing with that i would not need to enter the room except if i see a sick plant or it is time to flush the system and move to the next step in the plan

i know of auto plants that can do up to 450 grams of 15-18 % thc i know of ones that are 300 grams 17 to 21%

justugh said:

that was a auto plant

if u ran those 1 grow u would be done in about 78 days 90 days from seed to smoke .............running the numbers auto plants are the most effective at keep the running cost there for the price u part with low

this whole thing i am building is on 30 cycle i should be bring in about 3 lbs ......i run different strains right now i have over 11 differnet autos and like 50 photo seeds

if i do this right in 2 months i could afford to get this it has 6 slots for feeding and 2 slots for PHing with that i would not need to enter the room except if i see a sick plant or it is time to flush the system and move to the next step in the plan

i know of auto plants that can do up to 450 grams of 15-18 % thc i know of ones that are 300 grams 17 to 21%

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Thats a lot of money for a watering system. I have never grown an auto. I didn't know they could yield so much, I always came to the conclusion that auto's were for solo cups lol. Obviously you know how to grow them.
I wish you luck with your plans and hope you get it worked out. I can't see the monitor anymore so I have to sleep now so goodnight.

night canook guy ..............lucky bastard ladies can walk around topless up there

cannok guy .........if u check here tomarrow

have a look at this ............biodiesel mass........ Thc bomb............ auto critical jack herer


as for growing them it just like photos except u can run them 20/4 the whole way .....and u can use a mix specturm the whole way
compared to photos a auto plant run on a 20/4 in 30 days it has had 50 days of photo run on 12/12

see it is this gene in the plant that cuases it to flip into flower once it reaches a certin age/height .............so that whole light leak issuse is removed ...u use less power over all and less feed to get the same results

justugh said:

cannok guy .........if u check here tomarrow

have a look at this ............biodiesel mass........ Thc bomb............ auto critical jack herer


as for growing them it just like photos except u can run them 20/4 the whole way .....and u can use a mix specturm the whole way
compared to photos a auto plant run on a 20/4 in 30 days it has had 50 days of photo run on 12/12

see it is this gene in the plant that cuases it to flip into flower once it reaches a certin age/height .............so that whole light leak issuse is removed ...u use less power over all and less feed to get the same results

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Shitload of choices at that site but damn the prices! Also I am Canadian and will only buy seed or clones from my own back yard. Thx for the info though.
Well it looks like you will get alot of help if need but I think you will get it right the first time.