Help with flipping my first sgrog :)

Hi mates, was hoping to get some advice on when to flip my ladies in my first scrog grow. I do not want a 'jungle' but I also do not want to leave gaps in my canopy. The strain is Aurora Indica, they are veggin for 2 weeks under 600W. They are exploding right now, from first pic to last pic it has only been 5 days. They are in a sealed room with c02 enrichment.
Anybody with experience on Auroras stretch please chime in.

Unity

That looks like a lot of plants too close together for a good scrog. The idea is to use fewer plants, and spread them outward by training under the screen. The plants will grow a lot more after switching to 12/12, so that is usually done when the screen is half full.

HTH

potroast said:

That looks like a lot of plants too close together for a good scrog. The idea is to use fewer plants, and spread them outward by training under the screen. The plants will grow a lot more after switching to 12/12, so that is usually done when the screen is half full.

HTH

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Hi Pot It's only four plants under a 3x3 screen. How much more will they grow (aurora, that is), and that would bring me back to my original Q.
I,m thinking another day or so, my canopy is about 60% accounted for.
I'll post another pic from today.
Thanks for stopping in mate

Unity

Here are some more pics, you can see how fast they are filling out.
I think maybe another day till flip.
No one with scrog experience out there?

Unity

I can't tell from those pics how you are doing it, when I've done scrog, I trained the branches outward by looping them over and then under the screen. It looks like there isn't anything growing over any parts of the screen.

Once you switch the lights they will stretch for at least 2 weeks. That's when the daily training is required.

HTH

potroast said:

I can't tell from those pics how you are doing it, when I've done scrog, I trained the branches outward by looping them over and then under the screen. It looks like there isn't anything growing over any parts of the screen.

Once you switch the lights they will stretch for at least 2 weeks. That's when the daily training is required.

HTH

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Hi Pot, I guess I read it different in my re-search. I keep all growth under the screen, as soon as they pop through (3" or so) they get pulled back down and re-directed. From what I learned you do this until 70%-80%(Indica) of the screen is filled, then you flip. I keep training them for 1-2 more weeks into the flower stretch. I could imagine that some people weave them instead of tying them down, which should not be required from what I read, since I keep all my growth under until they start to bud.
I decided to flip them today, better save then sorry on my first scrog.

Unity

good, flip them today, or you'll have a junge

Well either way those things look like they are growing like mad!! Are these feminized seeds? I am gonna watch this one want to see some good Indica budz.

lookin good! I'm doing a scrog grow right now, I'm on 4 weeks of flowering. I would suggest that you flip the light cycle to 12/12 now. The plants really explode once they are put into 12/12, you'll have a full screen for sure.

With my grow right now, I probably would have flipped them a few days sooner than I did because right now there are so many bud sites, only half the buds are getting any light.

Cheers mates for stopping in I grew 3 of these from seeds (Nirvana) then I took a clone from each and flowered it to find my babes. Once found, I took 4 additional clones from the mother and of I went.
Probably not a good idea to go directly from seed, can you imagine the nightmare trying to remove a male, plus one would have to deal with the empty space in the screen afterward.
I have to go out and take some pics for today ....

The first pic has a Purple Kush plant that was a late comer to the party, she is going to have to lurk over the fence.

They have been flipped for 2 days now, New growth is everywhere, with the screen being at about 60% full (at least I think so)

This morning I did not pull them back down. I will wait until tonight when they have a bit more growth on them. It seems that at 3" the heads of my growing tips do not make it all the way to the next hole in the screen. I don't like that since it restricts the opening up of the fan leafs quite a bit, possibly stunting them a bit. Not sure though, since when I check again 12 hours later, most of them are pointing up again with their fan leafs open Eiter way, all looks good, so far,lol.

Enviro is completley controlled:

Temps: Lights on 83, lights off 77
Humidity: 50-60%
Co2: 1500-1800 lights on
No air circulation during lights on (sealed)
Res at 73 degrees
2 strong oscillating fans (one underneath canopy, one on top)
They are being feed 3 times during lights on and I'm draining to waste.
Medium is rockwool.
They are on 6ml Aqua Flakes A/B along with some Cal-Mag, enzymes, B1 and Root Excelerator.
I change the res. once a week, since I do not use H202 on this grow.

waterCooled said:

lookin good! I'm doing a scrog grow right now, I'm on 4 weeks of flowering. I would suggest that you flip the light cycle to 12/12 now. The plants really explode once they are put into 12/12, you'll have a full screen for sure.

With my grow right now, I probably would have flipped them a few days sooner than I did because right now there are so many bud sites, only half the buds are getting any light.

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Checked your scrog mate, looking good so far! I'll pull up a chair if ya don't mind . If I had to choose between the bud or the fan leaf I would always choose the bud

Unity

beennoobed said:

good, flip them today, or you'll have a junge

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Thanks mate, I had the same worries Good to be confirmed.

Unity

Filling the screen nicely. About 30 min. a day spend training them back under the screen. I take about ten fan leafs a day , I don't like it, but something is going to have to go, and it ain't my bud sites

Unity

Before I added the 2nd oscillating fan under the canopy I did get some moisture build up between the fan leafs. The fan solved this problem.
Excellent ventilation is a must for a scrog.
I added a pic of some of the other equipment in my grow.

Unity

wha size room u in? any full pics of ur room?

wtf is scrog?

beennoobed said:

wha size room u in? any full pics of ur room?

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Cheers for stopping in mate! I build my room in order to house 2 600 watt set ups. along with an air purifier, de-humidifier, humidifier, ac. I have a separate space next to it for all my controls, res and chiller as well as a view mother plants. I currently use only 50% capacity of my space.
Dimensions are 3x8x6 flower and 3x6x6 equipment.
I'm still dialing in a bit, it's my first grow in it so wish me luck

Unity

yuri orlov said:

wtf is scrog?

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Hi mate, A scrog (screen of green) is similar to a sog (see of green). The idea is to get an even canopy height in order to eliminate shading within your canopy. There are no air buds or popcorn buds. All buds get full light. In a scrog we achieve this by placing a screen 8-12" above the plant/s and then veg them until the screen fills up with bud sites. Ideally one bud site to each hole in the screen. There is brutal training and trimming of fan leafs involved here in order to keep them under the screen. In a sog you use many rooted clones and flower them immediately. In a scrog it does not matter how many plants you use, all that matters is that you fill the screen. Advantage is: less clones to deal with as well as staying under the legal limit of plants. Disadvantage to sog is: more veg time.
That's a start, if you need more info, you can always do a search on scrog

Good luck,
Unity

damn good look

unity said:

Filling the screen nicely. About 30 min. a day spend training them back under the screen. I take about ten fan leafs a day , I don't like it, but something is going to have to go, and it ain't my bud sites

Unity

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Just consider that each of those leaves will feed a new branch, with a sticky bud on it. You'll find that some foliage has to stay under the screen, and will soon be shaded out. But you want to fill the screen, and then it's what is above the screen that counts.

HTH