Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

StinkBud said:

Wait till you try the buds after flushing with Sweet. It's beyond anything I could have ever imagined.

My last batch has completely dried now and has had a chance to cure for a little while. To put it simply, the buds are the sweetest I have ever tasted in 40+ years of smoking pot.

I know you think I'm exaggerating and I wouldn't blame you if you did. Everyone should try it though. You all will be blown away by the flavor.

The after taste is unlike anything I have ever experienced! It really does taste like candy.

I can't wait to hear what your patients are going to say!

On another note...

I got a new patient a couple a days ago. I felt really bad for the guy. His old provider was giving him shitty shake that he couldn't even smoke. He had to make oil out of it.

He's old and poor as fuck but too proud to take anything for free. I told him if he wants to pay any money for the medicine to just donate whatever he can afford it to the local clinic because that's all I would do with the money anyway.

I could see the look of relief in his face.

Needless to say he was stoked when I hooked him up with some of my medicine!

I may look like a big, tough guy on the outside but I got a soft heart. I always feel like crying when I see people suffer. I got that from my mom.

I ball my brains out just like a chick whenever I see a sad movie, pitiful..

Click to expand...

dam stink
you got me cryin too
the world needs more folks like you
STINK FOR PREZ.

dagobaker said:

hey stink......any reason u think u got 27 oz from ur grow instead of the normal 16?
seems like ur doing something better....dont hold out on us

Click to expand...

HEY dagobaker
he started leaving the lights on his veggiies 24/7
then he uses the veggie formula with sweat for the first two weeks of flowering
I THINK THIS IS WAY

yup cause if u use the veg formula for da first 2 weeks til the flowers show, it grows alot stronger with thicker branches to hold more weight cause the first two weeks of flowering grows like veg til preflowers show....at least dats wat it did for me with DWC buckets haha..

BIGTIMEROOFERR said:

HEY dagobaker
he started leaving the lights on his veggiies 24/7
then he uses the veggie formula with sweat for the first two weeks of flowering
I THINK THIS IS WAY

Click to expand...

BIGTIMEROOFERR said:

HEY dagobaker
he started leaving the lights on his veggiies 24/7
then he uses the veggie formula with sweat for the first two weeks of flowering
I THINK THIS IS WAY

Click to expand...

I was wondering if u had a pic of the Outdoor timer u use for ur lights? so wen i go into lowes i kno wat to look for, Thanks!-SaladSmokn

StinkBud you are too nice! You sound like my long lost brother. I just got caught by my 13 year old daughter all misty eyed while reading your post. I played it off though. LOL
I will definitely try the Sweet on the BubbleGum I have going now. It has some feminized seed from the BlueBerry in it as well! Yes! It is at day 54 now. How long does your BubbleGum usually take?

I haven't lost a clone either except all of them due to a screw up.

You are the Conductor of The Karma Train sir! I salute you!kiss-ass

repvip said:

Could be.

Anybody see a 120+watt LED in use? I haven't. Until now

This is a 350watt tri-band panel. Replaced a 1000watt HPS.

Utilizing StinkBud system.. plants start on the right and move to the left with each harvest. This way they will start under the LED and finish under the 1000watt HPS.

Boys... lets hope this works! I won't keep you hanging.

Click to expand...

Choice! - Looks great - we will all have LED's one day - you are the future!

DIRTHAWKER said:

well i just took the tank out of the room and took off the regulator. Then opened the valve..jet engine pressure blowin loud..i hooked the regulator back up and adjusted the cfh up to about 10 and you can feel the co2 coming out...its not empty. Ive had it set for the past 3 weeks at just under 2 cfh for 30 minutes on every 3 hours ..so that like 2 hours of co2 total a day..it only floats when the timer gets switched on... hmm...i just used the co2 calculator and it made sense...it says about 102 hours for 21 minutes on time...so i would think since im going 30 minutes it would drop the tank life a little..so maybe 80 hours i dont know.

the pressure guage is always at 30 psi..exactly where it says to set it at. WEIRD!

Click to expand...

The pressure gauge should be going down slowly over a week or so. Something dosen't seem right. You should be on your 2nd or third tank by now.

Try bumping your regulator up to 4 and see if that helps. Maybe the regulator is not calibrated correctly.

I wish you had a CO2 syringe. That would answer the question real fast.

All you do is draw air through this little glass thing. The white fiber inside turns blue when exposed to CO2. You just read the marks and you know exactly what your CO2 is.

When I first set my room up with timers my estimates where way off. I had to double the number and time suggested by the online calculator. You may have to do the same...

StinkBud said:

I'm stoked to hear that they are only on the veg and clones.

That's not hard to deal with because you can spray them.

The flower room is a whole different story though. As soon as you have buds you have to stop using sprays.

If I were you I would still put some predators in the flower room just to be safe.

Click to expand...

I plan on it just to be safe. gona get extra just to be safe, wouldnt want the little bastards hitching a ride on my shoes or something and relocating to the remote flower location.
thanks again

Just another update from me, and also a few questions.

Clones are doing good. Changed the water with fresh ph5.8 adjusted tap water with a little DM Zone. The best one has about 4 or 5 1" roots, and the others are coming along nicely. About 4 more popped the nub roots over night. Should have high success rate this go. Shit feels good. Only been 7 days.

Few questions:

1. I plan on giving them the plain tap water (~170ppm) for another week at least (depends on how fast the roots grow if I hold off longer or not). When I start giving them a low dose of nutes, should I give them the 3-2-1 ratio (veg-micro-bloom) or should I just give them just some veg or micro alone? I plan on just adding a little, maybe to bump the ppm to about 250-275. This will be another week at least I am thinking. The clones are as green as the day they were cut from the mothers.

2. Stink, I was wondering if you have messed with any other timing cycles? I am using a 15 min on/15 min off cycle right now until I get the good timer to lower the on time of the pump. Well, after the 15 mins of off time, the roots still have water dropplets on them, it seems with just 4 or 5 mins off, you could safely let the roots air out a little longer without drying. You used the adjustable timers, did you try going 1 min on / 8-10 mins off for example? You really seem to know the setup, so I figured it might be a good question to ask you. Think it really matters as far as growth rate? I remember you saying that when the pump turns back on, the water still hasn't finished draining from the post all the way. Since the NFT is in action, think the aero 'dry out' is not as important?

3. I was going to order some flush (sweet/clearx), do you only recommend the Sweet now? I was going to try the berry. If I get this, I won't need the clearx at all?

4. I didn't see you say it (so much reading!), but others said you now take the veg nutes into flower a couple weeks with a dose of sweet, you then switch out for your regular flower nute mix without the sweet? Then continue flowering and at the end of your flower, flush with just sweet + water? I am a huge fan of tasty nugs and since I vape my medicine it really brings out the true taste. I don't see how people skip on these small steps to help increase the taste. You really seem to be a fan of this as well and I would take your advice over just about anybody elses.

Saladsmokin said:

I was wondering if u had a pic of the Outdoor timer u use for ur lights? so wen i go into lowes i kno wat to look for, Thanks!-SaladSmokn

Click to expand...

hey salad
sure dont
i got it in the lighting dep.
its black w/analog timer w/6 outlets below it has a water prof cover that i removed and it comes with a stake to drive in the ground that i removed also
hope this helps

AverageJohnDoe said:

Just another update from me, and also a few questions.

Clones are doing good. Changed the water with fresh ph5.8 adjusted tap water with a little DM Zone. The best one has about 4 or 5 1" roots, and the others are coming along nicely. About 4 more popped the nub roots over night. Should have high success rate this go. Shit feels good. Only been 7 days.

Few questions:

1. I plan on giving them the plain tap water (~170ppm) for another week at least (depends on how fast the roots grow if I hold off longer or not). When I start giving them a low dose of nutes, should I give them the 3-2-1 ratio (veg-micro-bloom) or should I just give them just some veg or micro alone? I plan on just adding a little, maybe to bump the ppm to about 250-275. This will be another week at least I am thinking. The clones are as green as the day they were cut from the mothers.

2. Stink, I was wondering if you have messed with any other timing cycles? I am using a 15 min on/15 min off cycle right now until I get the good timer to lower the on time of the pump. Well, after the 15 mins of off time, the roots still have water dropplets on them, it seems with just 4 or 5 mins off, you could safely let the roots air out a little longer without drying. You used the adjustable timers, did you try going 1 min on / 8-10 mins off for example? You really seem to know the setup, so I figured it might be a good question to ask you. Think it really matters as far as growth rate? I remember you saying that when the pump turns back on, the water still hasn't finished draining from the post all the way. Since the NFT is in action, think the aero 'dry out' is not as important?

3. I was going to order some flush (sweet/clearx), do you only recommend the Sweet now? I was going to try the berry. If I get this, I won't need the clearx at all?

4. I didn't see you say it (so much reading!), but others said you now take the veg nutes into flower a couple weeks with a dose of sweet, you then switch out for your regular flower nute mix without the sweet? Then continue flowering and at the end of your flower, flush with just sweet + water? I am a huge fan of tasty nugs. I don't see how people skip on these small steps to help increase the taste. You really seem to be a fan of this as well and I would take your advice over just about anybody elses.

Click to expand...

hey johndoe
im not stink but he is using just sweet and water only now to flush
he does use SWEET IN THE FLOWER FORMULA

hope this helps

So he is using the sweet with veg mix for 2 weeks into flowering, then switching to flower nute mix with sweet, and at the end only sweet and water? So basically sweet the entire flower cycle?

Thanks BT

dagobaker said:

hey stink......any reason u think u got 27 oz from ur grow instead of the normal 16?
seems like ur doing something better....dont hold out on us

Click to expand...

It's a combination of a few things.

One is the strains I'm running. All the strains I'm running now are huge producers. I got rid of the lanky sativas and I'm sticking with mixed breeds with mostly Indica in them.

The Indicas finish faster and the buds are very dense and heavy. It's taken me a long time to narrow my quiver down to just 4 strains that I like.

All 4 strains have basically the same nutrient requirements(1700PPM). Having my strain's PPM dialed in really helped with the final harvest.

Another factor kind of happened by accident. I had to put my veg unit in with my cloner on 24/0. The clones didn't get that much bigger but they take longer to start flowering.

That extra few days to start flowering really adds quite a bit more bud sites to the plant. More sites equal more buds!

The plants also end up taller because they stretch for a few more days.

It's not unreasonable to expect 1.5-2oz per plant with my system if you have a good strain. I bet if someone grew Big Bud or Chronic they could pull down 3oz per plant easy.

I've pulled 3oz. from one Blueberry plant but that the best I've done so far (using my system).

Another thing I've changed is my nutrient mix for the first 2 weeks of flowering. I've been running my veg mix with Sweet instead of the normal flowering recipe I use.

This gives the plants a higher Nitrogen level than the normal flowering mix. The plants love it!

The plants grow faster, bigger and stay dark green during the whole stretch. As soon as the plants are done stretching and set flowers I change the res to my normal flowering recipe.

I also have a dehumidifier now. I think keeping the humidity at the perfect level really helps the plants grow healthy.

You want the plants to be able to transpire moisture into the air. This causes more water and nutrients to be taken in by the plant. If the air is too humid the plants close up their stomata and basically slow their breathing until the conditions are right.

My flowering plants use 1-2 gallons of water a day. Most of that water ends up in my dehumidifier.

So all these changes I've made have been a factor in my increased harvest.

You will notice I labeled my plans and instructions version 1.1, Soon you will see that number change....

Don't get your hopes up too soon though!

StinkBud said:

One time I made my own insect spray. You take garlic and hot peppers and put them in a blender with some water. Blend well and then strain the pulp out through some cloth.

Take the water and add a couple of drops of liquid soap and your done. It works awsome! Bugs will never touch your plants again.

Reality check.....

It made the whole house smell like the stinkiest Mexican pizza you could ever imagine!

It did work well though! No one, including the bugs could stand to go in the room! In fact one day I saw a fly go into the room and withing a few minutes he started puking!

Click to expand...

I think that will be my new outdoor trick, exept all my buddys costanly walkin outside lookin for the tacos and pizzas.

StinkBud said:

I've had them as short as just 1/4" below the collar. Usually I cut them even with the bottom of the net pot.

Click to expand...

Ive been haveing great luck just cutting the lower horizonal part off the netpots. It lets the roots grow strait down and if I want to take one out to put into soil or cause its a male it comes out easy without rippin stuff. The lower sides of the net cup act as fingers holding every thing straight like a nice bush of roots. I guess Im just being cheap though, till I get my first crop off. Ive been bleachen them and reuse in them.

StinkBud said:

I'm excited to see how this turns out. I have a lot of faith in LEDs. They may not seem very bright but the light spectrum is exactly what the plant uses.

Most of the light an HPS or MH puts out is not even used by the plant. Not to mention how much power is being converted to heat.

We need to figure out a way to build them ourselves. I can't find a cheap price on all the components. At this time it seems like it would cost more to build the unit yourself than just buy one already made.

I'd really like to make an LED light. I love building stuff (duh). To me the knowledge would be worth the price of admission.

Does anyone know of some plans/schematics for an LED light? Any good sources for parts?

We may need to start a new thread just for LEDs...

Click to expand...

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/grow-supply-product-reviews/83219-home-made-led-panels-3.html
I may have gotten that here I dont remeber but I have more links some were saved I can send ya with. I have a side by side op going with one side led/105w cfl and the other side with 400w hps/ 105w cfl
I will take pix soon. I think the led penatrate better and mine is even further away than my hps just cause I never moved it down.

DoubleBubble said:

How long does your BubbleGum usually take?

Click to expand...

My Bubble gum took about 9-10 weeks to finish. It was good but nothing compared to my other strains. I'm not growing it anymore.

I basically have ended up with 4 freaks of nature. In fact I'll go take some pictures tonight and show you. Some of the giant fan leaves have trichromes!

I wanted to take some hero bud shots anyway. This last harvest is the best I've ever had. The buds look and taste just like they are sugar coated! I shit you not!

StinkBud said:

I'm excited to see how this turns out. I have a lot of faith in LEDs. They may not seem very bright but the light spectrum is exactly what the plant uses.

Most of the light an HPS or MH puts out is not even used by the plant. Not to mention how much power is being converted to heat.

We need to figure out a way to build them ourselves. I can't find a cheap price on all the components. At this time it seems like it would cost more to build the unit yourself than just buy one already made.

I'd really like to make an LED light. I love building stuff (duh). To me the knowledge would be worth the price of admission.

Does anyone know of some plans/schematics for an LED light? Any good sources for parts?

We may need to start a new thread just for LEDs...

Click to expand...

From what Ive been looking in the past the led's that are even worth messin with are from hong kong and cost us like $2-3 each. (10mm or larger) over there though I bet they get them cheap as hell and must use sweat shops to make them. Im bet en in the next year there gonna drop in price, at least I hope. you also want them with the highest mcd rating. peace

AverageJohnDoe said:

1. I plan on giving them the plain tap water (~170ppm) for another week at least (depends on how fast the roots grow if I hold off longer or not). When I start giving them a low dose of nutes, should I give them the 3-2-1 ratio (veg-micro-bloom) or should I just give them just some veg or micro alone? I plan on just adding a little, maybe to bump the ppm to about 250-275. This will be another week at least I am thinking. The clones are as green as the day they were cut from the mothers.

Click to expand...

You can give the clones full nutrient dosage as soon as they pop roots. They love it!

2. Stink, I was wondering if you have messed with any other timing cycles? I am using a 15 min on/15 min off cycle right now until I get the good timer to lower the on time of the pump. Well, after the 15 mins of off time, the roots still have water dropplets on them, it seems with just 4 or 5 mins off, you could safely let the roots air out a little longer without drying. You used the adjustable timers, did you try going 1 min on / 8-10 mins off for example? You really seem to know the setup, so I figured it might be a good question to ask you. Think it really matters as far as growth rate? I remember you saying that when the pump turns back on, the water still hasn't finished draining from the post all the way. Since the NFT is in action, think the aero 'dry out' is not as important?

Click to expand...

I think there is a lot of experimentation left in regards to timer settings. We are just now exploring the whole idea of even using a timer.

One of the great things about this thread is people can try different things out and post their results for all of us to gain knowledge from.

3. I was going to order some flush (sweet/clearx), do you only recommend the Sweet now? I was going to try the berry. If I get this, I won't need the clearx at all?

Click to expand...

Yes that is correct, I have officially switched to Sweet for my final flush (450ml). No more Clearex!

4. I didn't see you say it (so much reading!), but others said you now take the veg nutes into flower a couple weeks with a dose of sweet, you then switch out for your regular flower nute mix without the sweet? Then continue flowering and at the end of your flower, flush with just sweet + water? I am a huge fan of tasty nugs and since I vape my medicine it really brings out the true taste. I don't see how people skip on these small steps to help increase the taste. You really seem to be a fan of this as well and I would take your advice over just about anybody elses.

Click to expand...

Yes, veg formula with Sweet for the initial stretch during flowering. It's usually around 2-3 weeks. As soon as the plants stop stretching and set flowers I switch to the flower mix.

Good luck Bro!

andyman said:

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/grow-supply-product-reviews/83219-home-made-led-panels-3.html
I may have gotten that here I dont remeber but I have more links some were saved I can send ya with. I have a side by side op going with one side led/105w cfl and the other side with 400w hps/ 105w cfl
I will take pix soon. I think the led penatrate better and mine is even further away than my hps just cause I never moved it down.

Click to expand...

Nice thread! Good find. Any idea how his stuff worked? The 300w panel of 3w LEDs should be better than what I bought... I would be really interested in making panels with 5w LEDs. Shit... even 3w LED panels would be great if we could make them cheap.

I'm guessing, roughly, this 350w panel works as well or better than a 600w HPS. The coverage is no where near a 1000w HPS and is probably even less than the 600w, but 4 of these panels would be ideal.

andyman said:

I think that will be my new outdoor trick, exept all my buddys costanly walkin outside lookin for the tacos and pizzas.

Click to expand...

No shit bro! Try it works great. It also keeps the deer and bunnies away.

Nothing living likes it...well expect for maybe Italian Mexicans. Is there such a thing?

I've seen Italians. I've seen Mexicans. But honestly, I don't ever think I've seen an Italian Mexican...

Hispitalian? Mexitalian? Italican?

I gotta quit smokin so much pot...