Newbs First grow!! 12/12 from seedlings Bagseed!!

Yo, my seeds sprouted and are doing good!!! the two biggest already have 4 leaves!!!!the other 3 are just poking out. Im growing some bagseed...shwag from texas

However this is a learning experience and I will be growing some Lowryder#2 x Auto AK-47 next. I know bag seed is mainly sativa..specially mexican brick shwag. I dont like the weed at all...but ive read alot of threads about some bagseed turning into some dank stuff when grown right. It will definitly be interesting with my tiny space...but after reading some micro logs I believe it is doable specially if the LST technique is applied. I plan on doing the spiral one...where you tigh it to the pot all around the pot. My grow space is about 1.8x1.8.1.8 its a tiny cube cabinet on the bottom of an entertainment center...Stealth is key...nosy roomie during college

. It sux cuz I grew up in AK where its 100% legal to grow bud(can have up to 24 plants

And can have up to an ounce for personal use WITH NO FINES/JAIL TIME/ or NOTHING...only state to be so. Sry off topic but I love ak and miss it so dam much. Most amazing place on the planet. ANYWAYS back to me log...I moved to texas after I graduated so I could go to college and play football. No colleges in AK have football havnt had the chance to grow till now...I have wanted to grow since I was 12 so....Now im doing it...I was intimidated for along time at trying to do a grow in such a small space...but Im confident I can get er done now after reading so many success stories. I have dont ALOT of reading and research and Im confident I have a very good setup for the space allowed to me. KK now u know my life story. Now to the specifics of me grow log

-Grow space demensions= 1.8x1.8x1.8 cabinet cube
-Lights= 3x 2600 lumins cfl's 4x watts cant remember exactly. 2.7k spectrum.
-Plant strain= mexican brick shwag seeds
-Soil= Miracle grow moisture control/vermiculite/perlite. About a 60/20/20 mix
-Ventilation= 2x small pc fans for intake 1x 4" personal fan from walmart($5) for outtake and another exactly the same to cool lights/blow over plants as wind substitute.
-Smell control= Nothing yet..but will be ez to setup. I have a little rubbermaid tub over my outtake to prevent light leakage and it is a simple matter of putting a carbon filter over the fan in the tub. Also plan on getting ozone generator if smell gets to bad.
-Ferts= None yet...but I plan on getting fish emulsions as my main fertilizer. I also will be giving it mollases when it starts to flower throughout the entire flowering.
-Couple things to readers:
I know alot of people disagree with MG...but I have read some posts that say it is good and pm'd a guy on this site...forgot his name but thats all he uses and hes a mod. I have grown lots of plants...lillies/roses/hydrangas/corn/peppers...list could keep going...and MG moisture control is the best soil i have ever came across for this. MJ is still a plant...I just think people try and overanalize things and do wht everyone else does...which is good cuz it gurantees success. However I have had amazing results with miracle grow with everyother thing and If it will grow roses good I know it will grow MJ good...MJ is a weed after all..hehe.

Things I need advice on(Ill take advice on anything you see I could improve on...these are just things I can think of that I need help with)

-LST techniques...any advice on this? using twist ties with holes in the pots good technique?
-WATERING( this is big) I have read alot of newbs mess there grow up by improper watering...I soaked my plants tonight till water started to come out bottom. How often should I water from now on? the pots are small..prolly 4 cups worth of soil.
-What size pots should I transplant them into for my final stretch? I cant have vertical height much higher then 1 ft...maybe 2-3 inches vertical. Have plenty width..as im only flowering 1 plant.
-how many out of the 5 should I keep till they show sex? I was thinking 4..keeping them in the pots they are in to show sex? I have noticed most of these type grows show there sex in about 3 weeks. and are like 4-6" high. Will they be fine in the small pots I started em in till they flower? I dont wanna just do 1-2 and end up being males
-VERY IMPORTANT- When should I start LST? I need these to be as SHORT as possible.
-Thats about it...dont gotta worry bout ferts till flowering cuz MG has **** already in it.

I am open to any and all suggestions. Just remember I am working with about the smallest space ive seen on here. If I end up with more then 1 female I will prolly keep 1 in a small pot and flower it out for a cute lil tiny bud hehe.

Heres some pics.
-1st is grow my grow cube with pots in there...got books keeping plants 2-3 inches away from lights so they dont stretch
-2nd and 3rd are of my exaust looking from inside my growcubby and outside looking into the rubbermaid tub.
-4th,5th,6th,7th,8th MY BABIES!!!! The bigger ones are BRIGHT green!!
-9th my space covered up like normal....No way your gonna know im growing bud hehe
-10th My pit bruno, best dog in the world.

Well This is the start of my growlog...will be updating often with pics

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Till then, Thx for peeping my Journal and look forward to hearing your feedback!!!!

Looking good so far. Sorry don't no much about LST. Know a fair bit about watering though i was one of those newbies that killed there plants by over watering the first time round i think lol. Anyways moving on. When there that young they shouldn't need watering that much i watered mine every other day. But then they where in peat pots which dry out really quick. When they get in bigger pits it's eaiser cos you can tell by the weight of the pots. Just don't over do the watering wait till the soil is dry if your unsure about watering them then i would leave them another day less is better than more, speacially if your using mg soil, the last thing you want to do is over water them and release to many nutes into the soil coursing nute burn, they would struggle to recover from that at this young age i think. Remember less is more when it comes to watering well i think so anyway. Good luck with your grow!

K, Ive decided to go with a sog type grow. However since I dont have the space for a mother plant I am just going to do it by starting them on 12/12 from seeds. I will keep the plants I got now and keep w/e females I get. I am going to get some fem seeds...not sure which variety yet...Imma shop around and I will probably get on monday or so. I transplanted the seedlings to small 16 oz party cups. These will be my sog pots. I plan on planting 15-20 more seeds that I order. I also will be adding some more cfl's I believe...prolly 3 more 2600 lumins for a total of 15k for about 3sq feet. My temps are real good, they are staying at 70-75. I have real good circulation in there. My intake PC fans got to loud so I shut them off. Even w/o them running and just with the passive intake its nice and cool. I will be buying another small $5 walmart fan like the 2 I got to put outside my growbox blowing through 1 of those intake holes to create more circulation. Specially since imma be doing a sog xtreme and circ is very important so no mold. I have already had some people tell me "You cant do that, It wont work" well imma make it work* Ive seen it work with more pots. Heres some pics of the transplanted seeds. There all bright green...there liking the MG moisture control and perlite/Vermiculite mix. 60/20/20 thx hip,

P.S. I have a pretty nice camera and if you wanna look at details just click the plus magnifying glass in the window where it opens if u click on thumbnails...makes the picture huge and has real good quality...seedlings are like 2 inches big. will be real nice for macros laterz.

Thx for peeping my log
Lata

why you going to do 12/12 from seed? you should be giving it a proper vegging.

Because I have 1.5ft height and they veg still for 3 weeks or so when u start 12/12 they just flower quicker. Its best way to go micro like this. I got like 1.2 inches of grow space for my plants after pots/lights.

Will be watching with great intrested! Hope it works out for you.

Just read what you got so far... Looking good. Anything you need my help on for micro growing Ill do my best. I have pretty much read every journal on the internet that has been micro haha.

Also if your temps are hot at all.. I would not have them that close to the lights... If its hot in there I would try and give them a good 2-3 inches.. I had that problem with mine at first I think because I had them pretty damn close to the lights.

For watering your gonna have to get the feel of it for your plants, in your environment, in your pots, with your soil. Just feel the top inch of soil if its wet dont water... I would say you need between 2-4 days for each watering. How is your drainage on your cups?

If you want a little boost in growth, I would get some super thrive... that stuff is amazing... I swear whenever I have a problem with a plant and give it some of that and come back the next day its like holy shit.. is that the same plant? it just explodes in new growth... might be great to start your plants off since your going 12/12 from seed

Thx for stopping by Joesalmon! I read your grow and it was nice man congrats! As for nutes, im using MG Moisture control it has 3 months nutes already in it. When I transplant to bigger pots in a few weeks(after they sex) I plan on using some organic soil and using the following nute regimin (2 tsp grow big per gallon of water every watering threw the first 2 weeks bloom. 2 TBL big bloom per gallon threw to about week 6 bloom. Clean water the rest of the way alsot 5 tsp worm casings and 2 tsp mollases per gallon of water.). I built a new grow chamber out of a 20 gallon rubbermaid So i could keep in my closet. This WILL eventually be a mother chamber or for lowryder. I will be building my main chamber out of 2 30 gallon rubbermaid tubs. Plants are doing good. They have really taken off since i switched to 12/12 Heres some pics.

This grow is gonna be real interesting lmoa. This is mexican shwag...the shit they mass grow and compress into bricks and import into texas lmao. So prolly grows like 8-12 ft outside in huge fields. Gonna have to do some serious lst!!!

I was gonna say damn those are some skinny leaves... nice and sativa for sure!

Sup guys!! Time for an update These pics were taken on 8-25-08.
Thx all you guys for your support and posts...It means alot and plz feel free to post any advice or feedback you have. My plants I believe are showing sex. I am not sure on any specifics yet and I broke my lcd screen on my digi camera so I cant see pic im taking and I cant get a clear close up shot So I cant show what im talking bout. Its lil shoots coming up where branches branch off from main stem. I dont see hairs...I dont know hwo to describe it really....They all seem to have it except the real small one so hopefully its a good sign. I have 2 small plants...2 BIG plants and 2 medium ones. I thought the bigger ones would be male but I think I see some hairs coming up out of the top...not sure could be small leaves rolled up or w/e. I think I got 2 strains or phenos...all these seeds came from about 8 oz of bud spaced over a year or so...I buy ounces at a time so all diff batches. Anyways, 5 of em seem to be the same strain..s.ame spicey smell and I have one that has fatter leaves and more of an indica look which SMELLS...it dont smell out of the box but its only 3 inches tall and it smells skunky....this plants gonna stink lmao So I think I got 2 different kinds of bud here Anyways...thx for reading this long ass post and I will be updating with more pics in a week every week.

Pce

Good luck with this grow ill be watching.

Yo! Plants doing good, they all seem to be a lil yellow on the bottom leaves...Im thinking its prolly nuteburn from the MG...I hope I can ID there sexes soon so I can get em in better soil There all diff sizes lol. They all have the SAME preflowers...and from what ive read I THINK they are female...they have what I believe to be calaxs..but I dont see "hairs" coming out of them...instead its a tiny green spike...I dont really know how to explain it...my fuckin camera is fuckin up and I cant focuz close Ive got 2 pics of the first node on the biggest plant which show the preflowers the best...you cant see the green spike..leafy looking thing coming out of them but you can see the calyx lookin thing. God I hope there not all fucking males imma be pissed. Well guess theres no point in getting angry...nothing i can do about it. Anyways. First pic is a group shot, second pic is the plant I believe to have a indica background...its also the only skunky plant. The rest smell fruityish. Pics 3/4 are more group shots, Pic 5 is the biggest plant, and pic 6/7 are the first node of the biggest plant. Lemme know what you guys think.

P.S. ITS MY 21st!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO ya baby!!!!

Pce

yeah you should have not gone with your irrational disregard for proper soil at the start. Miracle Gro can kiss my ass.


Also, if you put them straight into flowering like that, coupled with that MG, and all the other ghetto aspects of your grow, not only will you end up with schwagg like you started with but hardly enough to roll a joint.


good luck though

Sexologist420 said:

Yo! Plants doing good, they all seem to be a lil yellow on the bottom leaves...Im thinking its prolly nuteburn from the MG...I hope I can ID there sexes soon so I can get em in better soil There all diff sizes lol. They all have the SAME preflowers...and from what ive read I THINK they are female...they have what I believe to be calaxs..but I dont see "hairs" coming out of them...instead its a tiny green spike...I dont really know how to explain it...my fuckin camera is fuckin up and I cant focuz close Ive got 2 pics of the first node on the biggest plant which show the preflowers the best...you cant see the green spike..leafy looking thing coming out of them but you can see the calyx lookin thing. God I hope there not all fucking males imma be pissed. Well guess theres no point in getting angry...nothing i can do about it. Anyways. First pic is a group shot, second pic is the plant I believe to have a indica background...its also the only skunky plant. The rest smell fruityish. Pics 3/4 are more group shots, Pic 5 is the biggest plant, and pic 6/7 are the first node of the biggest plant. Lemme know what you guys think.

P.S. ITS MY 21st!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO ya baby!!!!

Pce

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Happy 21st!!
Not sure what sex those are not clear enough shots, but if you start to see white hairs come out of those then that are female.

Trawe said:

yeah you should have not gone with your irrational disregard for proper soil at the start. Miracle Gro can kiss my ass.


Also, if you put them straight into flowering like that, coupled with that MG, and all the other ghetto aspects of your grow, not only will you end up with schwagg like you started with but hardly enough to roll a joint.


good luck though

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Stay tuned my friend because you will be suprised at what I end up with

Yo!!! Sry its been so long since an update...Shits been crazy round these parts. My plants are doing good!!...I think I got 1 confirmed female Its the second biggest plant to so maybe I got lucky and picked 4 females? There in some bigger pots then those 16oz cups...not sure on exact size but id say there about 2/3-3/4 gallon pots. Ive started LST and they are handling it good. Im sure any and all females I get will hermie prolly...lol there bagseed plus they have been to hell and back with lighting...the timer I got is a weird ass timer and it turns out each pin= 1.75 hours lol. So they were on a 10.5/10.5 schedule for a week plus when I was doing it manually I usually had an hour window when I turned them on/off. Either way im not to worried...hermie buds dont seem to be to seeded and any pollen sacks I see I will take em off. Im not to worried about them being perfect...I know when I got my own place and start my real grows its gonna be amazing. Anyways im watering them once about every 4-5 days...they dont even droop after that long but the pot is light and I know its dry so I water em...Im giving them 1 TB fish emulsions and 2 drops superthrive every other water atm. In a couple weeks im going to add in 4 droppers of 10-15-10 shultz fertilizer and 1 tsp mollases. I will give 1 tsp mollases every water. I should know the sex of the rest of my plants by the end of week. I cant see any balls on any so hopefully I got all females cuz since how small they are im sure I got room for all 4. There about 8 or so inches tall id say...there LST'd but thats my guess at there length. Sorry bout the bad pictures...my camera lcd screen is broken so I cant see pictures before I take them. The first pic is all 4 and the next 2 are my female. I cant get close ups cuz I cant see the dam pic im taking and its always blurry...although it has hairs and is already forming a bud on the top.

Pce

Well its official I got 4 out of 4 lovely ladies WIll post some more pics in a few days

Pce

wooohooo very nice... i wish the last plant i started wasnt male, it was growing like a beast and amazingly... at least u dont have to worry about that

Congrats on the 4 ladies i like the odds on that.