P.P.P. x Blueberry x Sativa.(Full gro with pics)

crazy-mental

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I thought you meant when the plants had flowered.
Whilst there is no proper female bud then yes the males do stink more.
I do think that its possible that a plant that has been attacked in any way may produce more chemicals as a defense measure.
Thats another reason i continually remove leaf throughout the whole cycle of veg and flowering but never so much at once as to stress the plant.



I have never vegged for long enough to get preflowers but apparently its anything from 4-6 weeks as a standard but i think it really depends on the strain:blsmoke:
all my new plants in 12/12 are 1 and 3 weeks 12/12.
i have 5 more to sex.
i havent been looking for preflowers, in vegg, just into 12/12.
anyway thanks for the male plant pics.
 

natmoon

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Yeah thats a good male i think.
Looks kind of cool really.
Its a shame i have to box it up to die sometime in the next few weeks:cry:
 

natmoon

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I hear a lot of people around the forums wishing they could take better close up pics so here are my cameras settings that i use for close ups.
I use the pasm setting and then select these manual settings with the flower symbol selected.
A, f4.0,1/125,-2.0,iso64,flash on,auto focus on,7.1mp.

After i have taken the shots i go into photoshop and select resize image then i just change the image resolution from 450 to 750.
This doesn't change the image but does allow you to zoom in with photoshop without it getting blocky or losing quality.
I have to do this as i only have a 7.1mp camera.
If you have a 10/12mp camera you shouldn't need to do this.

When i have zoomed in with photoshop i use the crop tool to cut the section of picture out that i have zoomed in on and then resave it as a jpg image.

You still have to mess about with angles and lighting to get a good shot.
Sometimes i spend ages getting some good shots.

I have now found a small section of a corner in my cupboard that allows me to take good shots up close with the macro settings.
If you have the wrong lighting everything will either appear to dark or the flash will obscure the part of the plant that you are trying to capture.:blsmoke:
 

natmoon

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Todays pics.
Cleared out most of the males.
Some that i am sure are males but may not be so i have left in for a few more days just in case.

2 that i thought were females are also males.
So far i have 4 good females and 1 scabby female.
So out of 37 plants i have 4 good females and 1 scabby one with it being possible that there are more females but unlikely.

This new strain has been more difficult to tell them apart until its plainly obvious.
I am keeping the best male until he is almost ready to pop then he will be boxed and his pollen saved.

The plant in the airbasket is loving it and beginning to fill in nicely.
Enjoy the pics:blsmoke:






















 

natmoon

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Todays pics.
Looks like i definitely have 2 different phenos as to what they will eventually smell,taste and look like who knows.
One is very sativa looking and the other is very indica.

I have decided to save one of the indica looking males and the best sativa looking male and cross breed them and inbreed them with the females on the next grow as i will save their pollen and only pollinate just a couple of hairs at the bottom of each female on this grow.

I am going to clone these 2 new types and seed the next grow with the saved pollen.
Ive noticed that i also have a double headed triploid female.
Seems to look like 2 tops that haven't actually split and are joined together as one head making a strange looking top.

I noticed that another guy here also had the same thing happen with a triploid.
Looks like its just 2 tops to me that have grown as one like a Siamese twin kind of thing.
They may yet grow out of each other.

Airbasketed plant is growing like the clappers and is twice the size of my others.
Air delivered to the root ball is definitely helping even in soil.
Enjoy the pics.:blsmoke:

















 

natmoon

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Plants are growing nicely.
Nothing major to report.
The airbasket plant is far outperforming normal pots.
All though the airbasket is a bigger pot the buds are developing and fattening much more quickly than my stuff in normal pots.
A few shots of the best male that i have kept as well:blsmoke:











 

natmoon

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Thanks for checking in guys and taking a look,it is appreciated.
Hope you enjoy the pics and the info.
Airbaskets really do work.

I can guarantee that these buds will be very good unless i ruin them:mrgreen:
The 2 different phenos are from the same cross but the one in the airbasket looks to be sativa dominant.

I will get one of the fat short buggers in another basket soon.
I have to buy a large drip tray and move shit around though as the airbaskets are a lot bigger than i usually use.
More pissing about lol,right now im of to bed though as i have been awake for 24 hours at least now:mrgreen::peace::joint:
 

kayasgarden

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hey nat things are lookin so nice, they turned into bushes sence i was last here:) Love watching plants go from veg to flower what a fun thing to watch!!
 

HoLE

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man you know how to run that cam,,those are some of the nicest clearest pics I've seen on here,,,I didn't go back in the thread to find this but did read before,, just forgot,,is that sponge you covered also in the air basket,,man that plant looks healthy as an ox,,ingenious idea,,nice growing and camera work natmoon,,good luck all the way

Keep on Growin

HoLE
 

natmoon

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Ok heres the info and pics from the new potting idea.
For all i know this has already been done by someone else,if it has i haven't seen it.
Anyway heres all the gumpfh in case you want to try it for yourself
Everything that i used and why.:blsmoke:

Ok so i am loving a plant that only gives small yields,so what do i do?
First cross it with a tall sativa that i know to be strong,take those seeds and grow them out and see whats the best and looks a bit lanky like a sativa but still smells like the pppxblueberry.

Take pots that are designed for water features and full of holes,one mini pond pump and a sponge,cut some holes in the pipe and slice the sponge in half to stop the soil and perlite blocking up the pipe.

Stuff the pipe into the sponge and place on the bottom of the pot.
Fill with an 80% soil and 20% perlite mix and a packet of water absorbing crystals.
Add one female plant,stick it under the light and you have an aero soil grow that should hopefully help these low yielding plants to give huge buds and grow more quickly.

Thats about it really in basic terms.
I will answer any specific questions as best as i can for anyone that wants to ask them.

I have never done this before so i am not recommending it and it may suck so stay tuned and check the pics to see how it goes.
If you want to try it right now by all means do so but don't blame me if it gives poor results.
I see no reason why it will give bad results but you never know:blsmoke:

Pics may not have come out in the correct order as i wanted them to but i cannot be assed to re-sort 29 pictures html code.





























HoLE man you know how to run that cam,,those are some of the nicest clearest pics I've seen on here,,,I didn't go back in the thread to find this but did read before,, just forgot,,is that sponge you covered also in the air basket,,man that plant looks healthy as an ox,,ingenious idea,,nice growing and camera work natmoon,,good luck all the way

Keep on Growin

HoLE
kayasgarden
hey nat things are lookin so nice, they turned into bushes sence i was last here:smile: Love watching plants go from veg to flower what a fun thing to watch!!
Thanks for taking a look kaya and hole and taking the time to comment.
It is appreciated.
They are starting to look more like something to smoke now and hopefully it will get a bit more interesting once the buds get fat:mrgreen:

I have quoted the basket pics as its a git to find them in all of these pages.
Yeah i made holes in the end of the air pipe and cut the sponge almost in half and then put the pipe into the middle of the sponge so that it cant get blocked up.

Also the sponge will store a lot of air of its own and when it builds up it should release small air bubbles.
I used a basic bathroom sponge that cost me 19p,pump was 6 pounds,basket was 1.79.
I am pretty sure that you could easily get away with having no pump and just using the airbaskets.

Obviously the pump and sponge gives a lot more air and deliverers it straight underneath the main root ball but even the basket on its own gives a hell of a lot more air than a normal pot.

These baskets are basically just cheap pond baskets for aquatic plants.
Roots do start to come through the sides of the basket but it seems like they just stop growing when they realize theres a lot of light.;)
 

natmoon

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Your plant look wonderful, with arms everywhere!!! Did you top them?
No i used the fimming technique instead.
Only 80-90% of the top is cut away at an angle in the hope of causing many new tops instead of just 2.
Thanks for taking a look and commenting:blsmoke::peace::joint:
 

natmoon

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Heres todays pics.
Nothing much to report really.
Everything is going well and the plants are starting to produce trics quite well already.
The airbasketed plant is growing like mad.
I am going to take a few clones from the lower sections of both phenos sometime in the next week or so.
Still a bit boring really until the buds start to fatten:peace::joint:
















 

natmoon

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Thanks for stopping in guys.
They look pretty good and tric laden for only 10 days since they showed sex.
Only another 46 days,maybe more,and i will have some fatness to smoke i hope.

The mother plants were totally tric laden and the father was a dank dark green triploid/whorled mostly sativa plant that stunk with visible trics on it.

As this will be the f1 i am expecting f1 vigor in size growth and tric density.
This is why i am also going to clone this one so that i can stabilize it more quickly and easily and because its looking like it is going to be so strong that i want a clone to keep toking on in the future as the future breeds may be nothing like them.

I will also cross this strain back into my own mostly indica in the future.
On the next grow i will be using some new seeds to cross into my stuff.
I still cant make up my mind which strain to use so i have to put a lot of thought into it and see what needs or could be better with this new stuff and choose accordingly when this lot has been harvested:blsmoke:
 
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