Well Here Goes Again

I made it rain on SS #3-A, SS #4-A, & the RK today with a 1 tsp. Jack's/qt. The #3 is still vegging till a spot opens up in the tent.
Daniels

Great story, I bet they are wishing they could undo what they done plants look great man

That's really good to hear man. I went to their campaign website (the mormons/baptists) and I was just shocked to be looking at so many front page blatant lies or over-exaggerations / fear tactics. I was sorta worried they might gain some ground against you cuz I know the Mormons carry more weight out they way than they do here in the east. Good to see there are still some people willing to use their minds and logic instead of being blinded by idiots.

And the SS are looking amazing man! I got my transplanted into the final pots last night. I was surprised to see today that they were really nice and perky! I figured they'd be unhappy a little longer after scoring the roots. I'm gonna be flowering them in a week I think. I hope mine look even half as good as yours.

Those are really some fine looking plants, very healthy looking. I'm surprised that amount of Jack's isn't burning them. Which one is it? Must have urea as the primary N source cause a food heavy in nitrates would surely nail that plant at the rate you're using. Also, is your water source real soft (low TDS)?

UB

Wow daniels those plants look great , growing season is coming back for me so youre bound to see a lot more of me again too !

Danielsgb said:

Avocados, must be nice to be able to do those crops. That can only be done indoors here as far as I know.

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After getting about 8 quotes and talking to a dozen manufacturers and installers, here's how I'm gonna bring in the tropics. I've looked at quonset, arched, double poly fan forced....you name it. Gonna go with 10' high side walls with 4' tall, full length, rack/pinion manually operated sidewall vents. Open 'em up in the spring, close them down come first frost. 6/12 gable roof, peaked at 14.5' H. Glazed with 8 mm twinwall polycarbonate covering, roof to be 90% light diffusing type product. Motorized and high tech controlled full length roof vent, (automated). Large fan and motorized shutters on controller, high up in gable to get the heat out on warm winter days. The high side walls and vents will get the natural ventilation I seek and take the heat off the plants, will get my bee pollination (migration in and out), etc. A 864 s.f. footprint....and of course propane heating, HAF fans, rain collection system, etc.

I'm gonna do some raised beds for veggies this summer. I was gonna go something like 50% compost 40% vermiculite 10% soil. Still in the research & planning stage. I'm gonna do a trellis for beans & peas on the far side.

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Done the same thing without the vermiculite, it's expensive. 1/3 each of washed builders sand, compost, native clay loam in 12" raised beds. Aim is to go no-till. Gonna do pole beans this year for the first time but it's hard to beat the Contender bush bean. It will out-produce a pole bean 5 to 1. Just frickin' amazing production. Not a good freezer bean as it contains very little fiber and turns to rubber when thawed out, but that feature makes it the finest fresh steamed or stir fried bean you've ever set your teeth into.

I'm making something so we can start composting soon. My sample has been wet, now drying and I'll send it off Monday. I'm gonna add this hay to the pile of soil from my plants. We'll spread it out when we work on the main flower bed. I'll get the cubes or meal for the next batch, but that will be a few months. I've never done any top dressing so I may have to mess with it.
Thanks for adding a bit of wisdom, UB

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Probably the simplest compost container would be a 3 sided box using 8' t-posts driven into the ground. I have a 4 sided (it was free) and I'm not happy with it. Anything from chicken wire to cattle panels makes good sides. A gizmo, a rod with wings to punch in and pull up for aeration is a handy tool to have around.

On the hearing, expect the play of emotions. That's what it's all about. I don't worry about whether pot is illegal or not, I just do it. I figure if I haven't been busted since the 60's. someone must be on my side, or I done outsmarted 'em.

Good luck,
UB

I agree Uncle Ben, on the legality. I hope it to be legal one day too, but I will do it one way or the other.

gumball said:

Great story, I bet they are wishing they could undo what they done plants look great man

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I think they are realizing how fucked they are. When the repeal fails, they may get it back on the 2012 ballot but 10,000 caregivers will dump tons of $$$ at it. Plus we will get recalls going in any district who votes for it. We will put money to elect for reasonable candidates.

Boonierat said:

That's really good to hear man. I went to their campaign website (the mormons/baptists) and I was just shocked to be looking at so many front page blatant lies or over-exaggerations / fear tactics. I was sorta worried they might gain some ground against you cuz I know the Mormons carry more weight out they way than they do here in the east. Good to see there are still some people willing to use their minds and logic instead of being blinded by idiots.

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It truely is amazing, to lie like that. They are breaking the 9th Commandment. I found this comment in the local paper, from a letter from Brother Zabawa.

Mr. Zabawa, the fact you consider medical marijuana, the primary problem with young people, tells me, a substance abuse professional with master's level training in this problem; you don't have a clue. If you really want to save young people take a look at all the statistics and begin your quest with alcohol, not just that consumed by young people, but also by their parents. Kids from homes with no recreational drug use are less likely to experiment, or if they do, much less likely to continue with drug use. The most effective way to protect our children is by setting a positive example as parents and a society; kids don't differentiate between alcohol and pot. By the way Mr. Zabawa, alcohol is a highly addictive, dangerous drug, every bit as dangerous as heroin or prescription pain killers, and is the equivalent of a cancer on our entire society. I doubt in your narrow view of the world you will consider that beer in your hand the equivalent of using heroin in small quantities, even though it is a fact. If you really care about youth and drugs, you are fighting the wrong battle; wasting your time and energy. Recreational use of drugs, prescription or otherwise is destructive, but if we follow your logic every pharmacy in the country should be closed and all prescription pharmaceuticals banned. Your organization is nothing but a group of adults propagandized by special interests, venting your perceived impotence in the face of youth drug abuse and venting your angst in an ineffective tantrum of hopeless frustration. If you want to impact the youth of Montana, stop trying to control something totally irrelevant to their problems and challenges and start trying to inspire them.... The former works wonders, the latter is a fool's errand. Peace to all, Reality
http://billingsgazette.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_836881e5-91df-52aa-8bb4-0e4d7e86c6a2.html?mode=story

Uncle Ben said:

Those are really some fine looking plants, very healthy looking. I'm surprised that amount of Jack's isn't burning them. What's is it? Must have urea as the N source but a food heavy in nitrates would surely nail that plant.

UB

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I just assumed since Cannabis needs so much nutrients I was working up to the outdoor dose. I never saw a burn so I kept it up. I don't get it how they are handling it either.
UB, as if you can predict the future I finally saw some tips getting burnt on the SS in the FrigiDare, but they are starting week 8 so harvest coming soon for them.

Thanks for checking in all. Update coming for a couple in the tent soon.
Daniels

Uncle Ben said:

Which one is it? Must have urea as the primary N source cause a food heavy in nitrates would surely nail that plant at the rate you're using. Also, is your water source real soft (low TDS)?

UB

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It's the 20-20-20 Classic. Of the 20% N it says 2.1% Nitrate Nitrogen 17.9% Urea Nitrogen, so yep real high for urea N.
I've never had a water test nor did I buy a TDS meter, or any others besides a pH pen. It's pH is around 7.6.
I know it must be somewhat hard. We have some lime on a glass once it evaporates, plus Montana in general, & particularly where I am has a lot of limestone in the bedrock.

SensiStan said:

Wow Daniels those plants look great , growing season is coming back for me so you're bound to see a lot more of me again too !

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Glad to see you're back. I'll check out your new thread. I was wondering when you would be back.

Uncle Ben said:

After getting about 8 quotes and talking to a dozen manufacturers and installers, here's how I'm gonna bring in the tropics. I've looked at quonset, arched, double poly fan forced....you name it. Gonna go with 10' high side walls with 4' tall, full length, rack/pinion manually operated sidewall vents. Open 'em up in the spring, close them down come first frost. 6/12 gable roof, peaked at 14.5' H. Glazed with 8 mm twinwall polycarbonate covering, roof to be 90% light diffusing type product. Motorized and high tech controlled full length roof vent, (automated). Large fan and motorized shutters on controller, high up in gable to get the heat out on warm winter days. The high side walls and vents will get the natural ventilation I seek and take the heat off the plants, will get my bee pollination (migration in and out), etc. A 864 s.f. footprint....and of course propane heating, HAF fans, rain collection system, etc.

Done the same thing without the vermiculite, it's expensive. 1/3 each of washed builders sand, compost, native clay loam in 12" raised beds. Aim is to go no-till. Gonna do pole beans this year for the first time but it's hard to beat the Contender bush bean. It will out-produce a pole bean 5 to 1. Just frickin' amazing production. Not a good freezer bean as it contains very little fiber and turns to rubber when thawed out, but that feature makes it the finest fresh steamed or stir fried bean you've ever set your teeth into.

Probably the simplest compost container would be a 3 sided box using 8' t-posts driven into the ground. I have a 4 sided (it was free) and I'm not happy with it. Anything from chicken wire to cattle panels makes good sides. A gizmo, a rod with wings to punch in and pull up for aeration is a handy tool to have around.

On the hearing, expect the play of emotions. That's what it's all about. I don't worry about whether pot is illegal or not, I just do it. I figure if I haven't been busted since the 60's. someone must be on my side, or I done outsmarted 'em

Good luck,
UB

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Holy shit, you aren't fucking around to grow Avocados. That sound like an impressive site. I think we'll do half pole beans and half sweet peas. I'll look for Contender bush beans to see if it's even in my zone.
I have a spot for composting but it's on a slab of Concrete, and only some direct sunlight. I'm gonna work on rain collection stuff too this spring.
That group is using kids as their weapon in this fight that's obvious and pathetic. As if this repeal would suddenly make marijuana vanish on July 1st. As if 40 years of prohibition worked much more if you count all 75.
I heard Texas has a bill for MMJ. Maybe common sense can rear it's head.

gumball said:

I agree Uncle Ben, on the legality. I hope it to be legal one day too, but I will do it one way or the other.

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From the research I've done they will have to take me and a giant bag to prison, or eat many thousands in my medical care.
Tomorrow night I'll meet Irvin Rosenfeld, a medical marijuana proponent who has been getting his marijuana from the federal government for 28 years. On Tuesday night he's the main speaker for the Politics in the Pub event I'm also speaking at.
Daniels

Here's an update on the two SS getting near harvest. I'll drown them for a week starting soon. SS #1 recovered from trimming the burnt top. That whole set of fan leaves are fucked. I was fell behind on keeping up with her watering, besides the sunburn from when it was in the FrigiDare. It missed a rain to leech her soil, & she's been over-fed as a result.
SS #4 I'm now convinced is a retarded pig, from IAm5toned's comment. Just a bad set of genes, pheno. But maybe the SS these came from dumped all the good stuff into #2's genes. It never developed anything near a dense top cola. We'll see but I see a culling in SS #4-A's future.
Daniels

Looks very nice! I am seeing some foxtailing begin too as some of yours are. Some striking resemblances

Oh my. I really hope mine don't stretch that tall. lol. That would be sitting right in my 400.

Boonierat said:

Oh my. I really hope mine don't stretch that tall. lol. That would be sitting right in my 400.

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Look at mine Boonierat! She was vegged for about 3 weeks, Under mostly 100 watt blue CMH the whole time, then added some CFLs, and switched them for another 100 watt red CMH. Only in 16 oz cup, kind'of

gumball said:

Looks very nice! I am seeing some foxtailing begin too as some of yours are. Some striking resemblances

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Wait till you see the update coming for the FrigiDare.

Here's my new Hash Oil Gear. I used a 4" Vent Collar. I used a coat hanger cut into two bars with the first across the original holes it comes with. I drilled 2 holes so I could run the other bar. Now I can drain the Mason Jar with the coffee filter. It has the second layer, in case of a leak. I let it drain, then used a latex glove to squeeze the popcorn buds I used for this.
The circular Pyrex will be easier to scrape with the razor blade.
Daniels

First is a pic of #3-A after yesterdays rain & Jacks.
I made it rain on SS #2-A & #3-B. Both got the same dose of Jack's again. The drain hose is too slow. The four gallons of pH'd water would have taken too long to drain. I used a cup, then a hose siphoning it. I'll get a long enough hose for next time as it was barely long enough.

Daniels

Maybe if you raise the plants onto something in the tub I dont think you have the height to do that in the fridge, but its a thought for while your watering. They look great, and just think you will soon have enough strains for a 12 channel salad

Thanks and keep us posted!!!

Not good at all. Obviously timed as the legislature votes

HELENA, Mont. — Federal agents with guns drawn raided at least 10 medical marijuana operations across Montana on Monday, the same a day that a bill to repeal the state's medical marijuana law stalled in the Legislature.
Agents near Helena burst into Montana Cannabis' greenhouse, where the company grows more than 1,600 plants for its four stores across the state. The greenhouse runs about half the length of a football field and is packed with marijuana plants that can be seen from U.S. Highway 12.
About 15 workers were inside the warehouse during the morning raid. Montana Cannabis employee Brett Thompson, 30, said he stepped outside to smoke a cigarette and saw agents running up the driveway.
"They came in, guns drawn, got us down on the ground and in cuffs as fast as they could," Thompson said.
Federal agents detained Thompson and his co-workers in handcuffs outside the greenhouse, where sheriff's deputies and Helena police officers stood guard. Inside, agents in DEA and FBI jackets wearing respirator masks and blue gloves yanked waist-high plants from their pots and hauled them out of sight wrapped in blue tarps.
It was not immediately clear why the raids took place.
A spokeswoman in the U.S. attorney's office in Montana said the federal agents executed search warrants that are under seal. She declined to comment further.
Agencies involved included the Drug Enforcement Administration, the FBI, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Medical marijuana has become a hotly debated issue in Montana, and the Legislature has been debating whether to eliminate the law. The industry has exploded in the last year and reached the point where one out of every 19 households in Montana now has a medical marijuana card.
Montana Cannabis co-owner Christopher Williams told The Associated Press that raids were taking place at his business' four locations. An advocacy group, Americans for Safe Access, said at least 10 businesses were raided in six cities across the state.
The DEA and U.S. attorney's office would not confirm how many businesses were raided.
Thompson said they questioned each worker individually and then released them, except for one worker who had an outstanding warrant.
The search warrant allows agents to take the company's computers, data storage, products and plants, Williams said, but he wasn't sure why the raids were taking place. His personal and business bank accounts were also frozen, he said.
A warrant obtained by Americans for Safe Access and signed by U.S. magistrate judge Jeremiah Lynch of Missoula listed 13 items to be seized, including marijuana and hashish, drug paraphernalia, computers and other electronic storage devices, cell phones, firearms, transportation and customer records, transaction records, cash, jewelry and vehicle titles.
The warrant, which was for Big Sky Patient Care of Bozeman, did not say why the items were to be seized.
"It's strictly a political move to stop us from providing medicine to sick people," Williams said, standing outside the fence at Montana Cannabis.
The Senate Judiciary Committee voted 6-6 to reject House Speaker Mike Milburn's House Bill 161, which would repeal the medical marijuana law approved by Montana voters in 2004. Republican Committee Chairman Sen. Terry Murphy said the panel will look into creating a reform bill to tighten regulation of the industry.
Barbara Trego, Williams' mother and another worker at the Montana Cannabis, was at the Capitol for the hearing, said she received word of the raid before the vote. She said some of the people who use the company's marijuana are cancer patients and she feared what would happen to them if the operation shut down.
"We weren't trying to hide anything. Our windows are open. Our door was open," she said. "We've got patients that could die just by what's happened today."
The raid caused traffic to slow as people passing by tried to ascertain what was happening. One man in a minivan honked his horn and shouted out the window, "Thank you, Helena Police Department! It's about time!"
Williams said of the 1,680 plants inside the greenhouse near Helena, 480 were flowering plants that produce about 5 ounces of marijuana each. He said he sells an ounce for $190 — meaning approximately $456,000 worth of marijuana was confiscated from that one location.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/a9ef98ed05cf44f9be84d4ec28d2da30/MT--Medical-Marijuana-Raids/