iranian autos-fisrt auto grow-first journal

sodalite

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hello everyone im starting a journal for these iranian autos. ive never grown an auto before. they will be sprouted tomarrow and grown indoors untill around 12" then put outdoors for the summer. maybe in my raised beds, check them out in the outdoor section. or some in the beds and some in big pots. ive been a little sceptical about autos since ive heard of them. but people seem to rage about them so this will be my expierience with them. will post pics when they have some leaves. peace and hey check my beds out in the outdoors section i will try to produce some big full season plants in these as well as putting in some iranians. and will update that as well.
 

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MEANGREEN69

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SUBED..i been waiting to see these iranian autos..if i may suggest: put the seeds in

to the pot your going to be useing from the start.. or into party cups then

transplant at 2 weeks from seed NO LONGER. or your going to risk stressing them.

which is easy to do with autos. if you can get some of advanced nutrients "NO

SHOCK", "SUPERTHRIVE" or a vitamin b to help with stress for the first 3weeks
 

uptosumpn

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WOW! def. subscribed for this one!!! I been hearing about these irainian autos for a while too!!! I was gonna get some to do outdoors too, so def will be watching this through-out!! and ^^^^everything meangreen69 says!! Trust me get that stuff!!
 

sodalite

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thanks for your input. i do not have superthrive at the moment but have used it in the past. my plan was to start them in 1 gallon grow bags- sunshine mix, little bit of good compost and a dash of worm castings,water with earth juice grow, then put outdoor. i realy do not have the room to put them into bigger containers right now ive got reg season plants taking up alot of space. and everything is in 1 gallon grow bags. im ignorant on the subject but why do they stress in the first few weeks. i was told to grow them indoors under 24h untill they were 1 foot tall. then put outdoors and they will start to flower when put out. i appreciate any suggestions. think i should put them in raised beds or containers? both probly then we will see what works best i guess. check out my beds ive been working on if you get time. outdoor section 2-3 pages back. peace. pics up as soon as they have green showing. starting them tomarrow at noon.
 

MEANGREEN69

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you should be fine in the 1gal grow bags. i have 2foot autos in 1gal grow bags.. the

good thing about the bags is if u want to transplant. just cut out the bottom of the

bag and transplant them in to your raised beds or containers its less stress that

way..i think they grow so fast that they dont have the time to recover if they are

stressed..for sure its going to help if you can grow them inside untill there a foot.

also put a fan blowing on them to help the stems thickin up.
 

sodalite

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ok thanks man ill have some pics up soon. yea ive got the fan thing covered. thanks again peace.
 

sodalite

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i sprouted 7 of the iranians. i saved 4 since ive 5 autos of a differant variety to grow also so i thought id do them a few weeks apart 7 IAF now 4 IAF and the other autos in a few weeks. anyway using docs directions sent with the seeds 7 of 7 sprouted within 24 hours. they are now potted and hopefully going to shoot up in the next day or so.
 

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streetlegal

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subd... u should sacrifice a female and do an auto seed run man, beats paying for seeds haha (i got ur pm)
 

sodalite

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yes but what to use for a male ive no male autos. im afraid if i pollinated it with a reg season plant it would end up being some autos some regs and mostly just messed up. any ideas. im new to autos,i keep saying that but ive grown plenty of mighty mite and mm crosses. they just were not advertised as such but they were. if you have any ideas throw them at me. if they turn out to be good plants the price is nothing realy. but i would pollinate one and give it a try just for kicks.
 

uptosumpn

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^^^Hmmm, interesting....YEAH MAN, DONT DO THAT!..well the only thing you "probably" can do is try Soma's rondilization method<let the plant live longer....ie;when it's harvest time, dnt chop! rather let it go for 2 more wks...this way the plant will go into a sort-of survival mode and create "female pollen", ie; "male banna pollen sacs"...<use that new pollen on your NEXT crop and guess what?? you will make "female seeds!!! JMO!
HERE'S A TIP: WHEN IT'S HARVEST TIME< IF YOU DONT WANNA REALLY WAIT THAT LONG TO CHOP....HARVEST/CHOP YOUR "MAIN BUDS" AND LEAVE THE SMALLER NUGS TO GROW FOR EXTRA 2WKS...THESE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO CREATE MALE BANNAS....SO IT'S LIKE A WIN/WIN.SITUATION...BUD DRYIN/CURING, FEMALE POLLEN FOR NEXT CROP
 

sodalite

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yea ive heard of that method before. it seems it would work better in controled environments. but ive got nothing to loose so i may as well try it with a plant. normaly this wouldnt be possible outdoors for me but since they will be done in mid summer it may be possible. im sure nothing i make will be as good as the originals but ill look at it as another goal. just to see if i can. aye. thanks for reminding me of that method. im just looking foreward to growing these out they were the only autos that i realy wanted to grow. all the others look like they are the same old shit rehashed. but what do i know.
 

FarmerNinja

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uptosomn you sparked my interest about created pollen from females left too long. does this only work for autos?

would this be like hermaphroditic pollen ? im lookin into breedin a few killer strains and researching various methods

i been seeing these iranian autoflower ads all over the mags and ive been curious if they are are "potent" as they say.. or what is actually iranian about them?
 

uptosumpn

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Nah maan, this method can be done on all MJ plants......dont really know the history or genetics to the Iraian Autos...BUT def. a strain I am gonna get very soon...wanna try em' indoor & outdoor......anywayz...
CHk this out....

a post i found

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RODELIZATION: SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS

Here&#8217;s an easy, environmentally friendly method for breeding feminized seeds.

by SOMA


Story by Soma

Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds. Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can&#8217;t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.

To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.

For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop that&#8217;s already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you&#8217;re one of those growers who&#8217;s never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.

somas Method :smile:
 

streetlegal

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Man I ain't been getting updates on this journal, bs sub updates are all messed up.,, and some random grow pics are in my journal now, like wtf
good to see there up sode, peace, and I'll sub again
 
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