6-Auto Ak47 fems and 3-Auto Pakistan Ryder fems (400watt MH/HPS)

growthspurt

growthspurt

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Hello all, I just ordered all the supplies so im really excited figured id start up this journal. My first grow journal from the White Dwarf's can be found on that link.
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My last two grows have been hydro/CFL so this will be my first soil/HPS grow.

I plan to grow 6 AK47 and 3 Pakistan Ryders in one 3x3 area. This is in the corner of a 14x10 room.



Since this is pretty much all I have right now maybe I can introduce the two strains I will be working with.

Auto Pakistan Ryder



Auto AK-47


I have a different approach to the journal so if anyone has any suggestions starting now till the end of this project please feel free to comment on here. If you decide to subscribe let me know on here so I can watch yours if you have one. As long as each post is directed to me and no other conversations start without me then I APPROVE of commenting on this thread!

Will take more pictures when everything arrives!!

est finish time : 04/10/2010
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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Ahh its driving me crazy waiting for all my supplies. The day they arrive im starting up and will post an update! I just know that the equipment will come earlier than the females so at least I will have something to do (setup the area) I will definitely post pictures once its all setup.

When I grew hydroponically I think I found the best way to germinate my seeds.

*will update with pictures once my seeds come in


What you need:

- Two small equal sized ceramic plates
- One damp hand towel
- seeds (for me preferably female)

1) Take the damp hand towel and fold it once from left to right
2) Place the seeds apart from each other in the bottom section and pull the top half over the bottom half.
3) Place now folded hand towel with seeds in it on one plate and take the equally sized other plate and place it upsidedown on top of the other plate.
4) If the corners of the folder towel are sticking out from the corner you can lift the top plate up part by part pushing them in so the plates form a seal to prevent light from finding its way to the seeds.
5) Move the now sandwiched plates to a dark area and wait, about 2-3 days all will be fully germinated and ready to grow!!
 
aeviaanah

aeviaanah

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hey man, hows it goin. not many people will subscribe unless you are doing something not everyone else is doin. know what i mean? il subscribe tho. check out my sig and come chat in there also. im nearing the end of flower. got super silve haze, bubba kush, jack the ripper. one jtr is in soil (fed fox farm) and the other in coco (fed GH), bubba kush in coco (fed gh), super silver haze in coco (fed fox farm) and a bubba kush 12/12 from clone in dwc hydro (fed supernatural) i also supplement with mycorrhizae, cal mag, humic acid, and snow storm. at the moment i am starting my first breed. i pollinated one branch of each strain from bagseed male pollen. i will then grow out 5-10 seeds of each strain and selectively breed the new parents. i will do this over and over until i ween out the undesired traits and keep the desired ones. i will have new pictures up today. i have three very different strains...

jack the ripper sativa dominant- biggest nugs right now fluffy - chem deisel smell
bubba kush indica dominant- smallest nugs most crystals and dense tight node spacing - fruity grape smell
super silver haze sativa dominant- med nugs most resin production semi fluffy - straight deisel smell
bagseed male indica dominant - stems when rubbed smelled real nice. tight node spacing. indica characteristics
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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aeviaanah said:
hey man, hows it goin. not many people will subscribe unless you are doing something not everyone else is doin. know what i mean? il subscribe tho. check out my sig and come chat in there also. im nearing the end of flower. got super silve haze, bubba kush, jack the ripper. one jtr is in soil (fed fox farm) and the other in coco (fed GH), bubba kush in coco (fed gh), super silver haze in coco (fed fox farm) and a bubba kush 12/12 from clone in dwc hydro (fed supernatural) i also supplement with mycorrhizae, cal mag, humic acid, and snow storm. at the moment i am starting my first breed. i pollinated one branch of each strain from bagseed male pollen. i will then grow out 5-10 seeds of each strain and selectively breed the new parents. i will do this over and over until i ween out the undesired traits and keep the desired ones. i will have new pictures up today. i have three very different strains...

jack the ripper sativa dominant- biggest nugs right now fluffy - chem deisel smell
bubba kush indica dominant- smallest nugs most crystals and dense tight node spacing - fruity grape smell
super silver haze sativa dominant- med nugs most resin production semi fluffy - straight deisel smell
bagseed male indica dominant - stems when rubbed smelled real nice. tight node spacing. indica characteristics
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Thanks for the post man, your shit looks nice i was just checking your thread. Yea I dont really mind if people subscribe or not, i really just do the journal so I can have a online backup of my grow progress. Also I like when people comment randomly about my current grow. It helps cause if I post pictures and there is something I didnt notice then someone can jump in and help with ideas. Should have some more pics up this next week since thats when everything should arrive.
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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Ok so first thing is first.. need to germinate them seeds so I can hurry up and get them going allready. Im following my instructions on post 2. I got my two plates



My hand towel folded into 1/4 ths and seeds on top.



And then the plate placed on top to block light and form a sort of "bio-dome"



Now I wait :) Check the next post for all my supplies that came in along with my setup.
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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So as my seeds are germinating ill post some pics of the supplies I got.



They did not have any more 250 watt MH so they upgraded me for free to an AGRO MAX 400 watt!!



Here is the ballast that came with it.. its small and convenient. Also has dual plug outlet ports.
Also the rest of the things that came a lighter and sticker... iguana juice grow nutes and flower nutes, along with the overdrive flowering formula. Also a thermometer, hydrometer and a plug timer.



The only thing I don't have pictured was the huge bag of Organic Fox Farm Ocean Forest potting soil and the 10 soil bags.


Well that's about it for now, once them seeds germinate I will be potting them and taking lots of pictures again.
 
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nice journal so far man, i plan to keep a close eye on this one and take as many notes as possible, im going to be ordering my equipment and seeds soon enough im setting my closet up now
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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Setting up the soil, I thought they would be including the pots as well so im stuck just using the bag for now, will get some pots for it next week when I can get out.

 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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All the seeds are properly germinated and I have placed them into their respective homes!!! Has it been 3 months yet? Why aren't they budding? LOL Im sooo excited!!
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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Well already one of the Pakistan Ryders have popped above the dirt. I have turn on the 400w MH and currently have it 24 inches above the seedlings.

Looking forward to more sprouts in the next few days. I have the light on a 18/6 schedule which is exactly where im going to keep if for the rest of this grow.

Im also monitoring the dampness very closley since I now have a fan running over the area to keep it cool and the MH light IS on now. Need to make sure that the temp change doesnt evap the water quicker than it was when everything was off.

I want to make sure that I keep a 2 inch circle surrounding my seedlings damp and make sure the surface is only dry for half a day before I water again.

Currently the temp is 76.1 and humidity 50%
 
hgkdehs

hgkdehs

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Im a little confused. You said that u purchased the 400w setup from htg. And that they upgraded your bulb from a 250w to a 400w for free. That system that u got never comes with a 250w bulb. Its a 400w system and u cant even use 250w bulbs in them. Did you buy a 250w system and they upgraded everything to 400w? the bulbs and the ballast? If so, THATS A DEAL. congrats. Also just letting u know from experience, 1.5 cu feet of soil wont fill those bags. I bought a 1.5 cu feet bag of FFOF and it only fills about six 2 gal bags :( U will have to buy more unless u just plan on filling them half full. But I wouldn't do that as this soil compresses a LOT after watering. You would think they would give enough soil to at least fill the bags all the way.
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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hgkdehs said:
Im a little confused. You said that u purchased the 400w setup from htg. And that they upgraded your bulb from a 250w to a 400w for free. That system that u got never comes with a 250w bulb. Its a 400w system and u cant even use 250w bulbs in them. Did you buy a 250w system and they upgraded everything to 400w? the bulbs and the ballast? If so, THATS A DEAL. congrats. Also just letting u know from experience, 1.5 cu feet of soil wont fill those bags. I bought a 1.5 cu feet bag of FFOF and it only fills about six 2 gal bags :( U will have to buy more unless u just plan on filling them half full. But I wouldn't do that as this soil compresses a LOT after watering. You would think they would give enough soil to at least fill the bags all the way.
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Ok so i went back to the site to figure out exactly what I was supposed to get and I now realize the upgrade was instead of a normal 400watt MH bulb they upgraded me to the "Agro Max" bulb for free since they were out of stock on the no name brand. Also I noticed that pretty quickly when I was about 4 bags in that there was no way I was gonna fill 10 bags to the brim, let alone the 8 I was actually trying to fill. In good news though along with the seeds came a little card (no bigger than a business card) that has all the info for the AK-47 and it mentions to use 1.5 gallon pots, so I filled the 8 I had about 75 percent fill and I was able to use all the dirt and get my 8 pots.

Thank you for your comment and I hope you come back often to see updates!!!
 
growthspurt

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All 8 of my babies have officially popped up above the surface of the dirt!!




Note: The title of my journal states 6 ak-47 and 3 Pakistan Ryder, but that was an error because they (sensible seeds) didn't send me the 7 ak-47s I asked for and only gave me 5. I wrote them and they responded almost immediately letting me know that they will have them sent out to me that same day. AWEsOmE!
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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Hello journal and whomever may be following!!
I have a picture update today is day 6th since my ladies first appearance from her organic soil bedding. I wanted to wait till they got a little bigger before taking any pics so here they are. Along with some improvements on airflow and light reflection. I noticed when staring at them that I was getting a lot of heat on my face and I wasn't even over them which made me realize some wasted light. I placed a white box there and on the other side to form a reflective barrier. Also the fan tunnels air from one side to the other over the plant tops. The other horizontal fan blows through the top of the light to push the heat from the lamp out as well as send a steady stream of air into the flow of the other fan. Also almost forgot to mention I added on of my 6400k CFLS to the front with the shield of the HPS to assist that side since I feel that the light might not reach there the best.

First are the AK-47







Pakistan Ryders





This is the upgraded setup



 
aeviaanah

aeviaanah

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looking good. all are popping up nice and even. are you going to breed with these or are u just interested in bud production? ive started my first breed using a bagseed male and three different females. bubba kush, super silver haze, and jackthe ripper. come and stop by and check it out. seeds are just about ready and harvest is a week away!

what is in your organic soil mix?

on your light, is there a switch to go from mh to hps? i just bought a hps/mh ballist and cant seem to run hps on it. does it require a special type of bulb?
 
growthspurt

growthspurt

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aeviaanah said:
looking good. all are popping up nice and even. are you going to breed with these or are u just interested in bud production? ive started my first breed using a bagseed male and three different females. bubba kush, super silver haze, and jackthe ripper. come and stop by and check it out. seeds are just about ready and harvest is a week away!

what is in your organic soil mix?

on your light, is there a switch to go from mh to hps? i just bought a hps/mh ballist and cant seem to run hps on it. does it require a special type of bulb?
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No I actually have to replace the bulb. But there are kinds that have both in it but they seemed to cost more. I still dont think you could have had both on at the same time. I think having that extra light spectrum would help during growing but thats what I have all my extra cfls for...lol.

The soil mix is fox farms ocean forest.

I am just interested in having a steady crop every 3 months of various auto flowers. I enjoy them as they fit my space perfectly and I think they are the future of home growing.

When I get more space I plan to make a dedicated spot and grow larger more exotic strains.
 
stinkbudd1

stinkbudd1

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Hey there, pretty nice start up you have going i hope your grow is strong, and the high last good and long. Im in for the ride, i thought of doing some short ryders in my set up but was'nt sure of the over all yield being worth it, those beans are not cheap..but ill be watching yours and feel free to stop by and check me out its in my sig...bubbleicous/bluemystic/papaya/skunk#1 peace
 
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