Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

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cruzer101

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OK I found the piece I had for it. Thanks for reminding me.





This fits right inside the sleave with a little trimming.








on the other end is the 4"duct fan I cut that housing back and fit it to the cooltube and set it in the other side.
You can see fan bracket through the tube.




This end of ducting is on a piviot, I cut a 4" round hole and stuck the end through. So I can move the light up and down. Its two piece ducting that slides inside of itself. I duct tapped the larger half so the hood wouldnt vibrate against it.





I still gotta finish the other end but at least its lower for now.
Comes right off to take pics too.












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DoeEyed

DoeEyed

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That's sweet, see I knew you were clever! Your ladies are starting to get that look - when are you chopping this round? I dropped my TW in the dark last night - tonight or tomorrow, they DIE! lol
 
SomeGuy

SomeGuy

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Thansk Cruz. That is much more clear now. I want to work on isolating the light in a vertical situation... guess we will see if I can get it going... Thanks again for the detailed information. :) Cant rep you anymore though... lol
 
Integra21

Integra21

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looking good Cruze. Really looks like it does a better job reflecting the light. Give me a week or 2 and I have my flower room build. Construction officially started today.
 
cutman

cutman

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hey cruz went to the store yesterday, and they had a 2.5 ' x 3' hood. but the price is out there and going up. every ones buying them up , but for 229.00 bil they can have it. he cant keep them in stock.
 
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cruzer101

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DoeEyed said:
That's sweet, see I knew you were clever! Your ladies are starting to get that look - when are you chopping this round? I dropped my TW in the dark last night - tonight or tomorrow, they DIE! lol
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You didn't... you wouldn"t.... you couldn"t ....
AAAh you did!

lol

SomeGuy said:
Thansk Cruz. That is much more clear now. I want to work on isolating the light in a vertical situation... guess we will see if I can get it going... Thanks again for the detailed information. :) Cant rep you anymore though... lol
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I hear ya, I tried reppin Doe again for her use of UB's topping method and couldn"t. Whats up with that. Said I had to spread it around.
Yea, I been watching a couple vertical grows too. Of course the idea is to use the back side of the buld as well. 2 foot depth is whats got me.
I dont think there is enough room to grow both front and back.

Integra21 said:
looking good Cruze. Really looks like it does a better job reflecting the light. Give me a week or 2 and I have my flower room build. Construction officially started today.
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Yea it does work better. You are building a new room?
News to me. I will check out your journal for updates.

cutman said:
hey cruz went to the store yesterday, and they had a 2.5 ' x 3' hood. but the price is out there and going up. every ones buying them up , but for 229.00 bil they can have it. he cant keep them in stock.
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See what I mean!
Thats why when I read your post and saw you got a 6" reflector I though 6 foot for $119 I figured I would buy one and cut it back. lol

No this worked out fine. For $150 I got enough shit to make what I need as my grows change. I do plan on doing a vertical grow like loll mentioned but light in front and grow up the back and walls. I want to do it in two stages and Im not sure what type of watering system to use on the upper girls so its still in the design stage.
 
cutman

cutman

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right on bud im sure youll work it out no dought. you know i was talking to the guy at the store yesterday and he was telling me that some hps 's and ml can be turned vertical they blow. have you herd of this? just wondering.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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I didnt go into detail or anything yet, but i mentioned it a couple of times in the journal. once it's built, there will be a badass update, but for now, the camera is still out getting fixed.
 
Earl

Earl

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Some bulbs like MH/ flourescent tube
do not work well hung vertical.

Most Hps will work vertical.
 
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CRZ

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this journal is incredible, i just spent the better part of the last two days perusing your thread. i am considering using CMH for a cab or closet grow, i would be satisfied with your yield haha.

keep up the good work sir, quite amazing.
 
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cruzer101

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cutman said:
right on bud im sure youll work it out no dought. you know i was talking to the guy at the store yesterday and he was telling me that some hps 's and ml can be turned vertical they blow. have you herd of this? just wondering.
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Yep.

Earl said:
Some bulbs like MH/ flourescent tube
do not work well hung vertical.

Most Hps will work vertical.
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Thanks man.

CRZ said:
this journal is incredible, i just spent the better part of the last two days perusing your thread. i am considering using CMH for a cab or closet grow, i would be satisfied with your yield haha.

keep up the good work sir, quite amazing.
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Thats a long read. Thank you, I have put quite of bit of time into this but it is worth every minute. I often reference these journals to see what works best. I am doing that right now, I cant remember how much Clearex I used last flush.
 
MyGTO2007

MyGTO2007

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cruzer101 said:
OK I found the piece I had for it. Thanks for reminding me.





This fits right inside the sleave with a little trimming.








on the other end is the 4"duct fan I cut that housing back and fit it to the cooltube and set it in the other side.
You can see fan bracket through the tube.




This end of ducting is on a piviot, I cut a 4" round hole and stuck the end through. So I can move the light up and down. Its two piece ducting that slides inside of itself. I duct tapped the larger half so the hood wouldnt vibrate against it.





I still gotta finish the other end but at least its lower for now.
Comes right off to take pics too.












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Hell Yeah Dude that was a good idea!!!!
 
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cruzer101

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MyGTO2007 said:
Hell Yeah Dude that was a good idea!!!!
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I am pretty happy with it. I mean it isnt exactly a turntable like your idea but it works. Did you ever get a co2 cylinder for that oxygen regulator you have? Or are you going to try and add oxygen to your roots with it?
 
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cruzer101

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Temps 76 res 68°
PPMs 200 (R/O, tap and clearex)
PH 6.0

I flushed with clearex for 24 hours. I used 5ml per gallon. Directions said 15mil. I think thats what I used before and worked fine. I will finish with R/O for 5 days. After the first wash the PPMs are at 20 and holding. They stay under 100 for 5 days and I cut. That 50 watt aquarium heater is working fine for now keeping the temps at 68°



After a closer look at this grow I see quite a bit of stress on these girls, Im sure I will end up with some seed. Not so bad really, I now know what to look for in herm seeds. The last time I got some, out of ten seeds I got five sprouted and one giant of a plant, all females. I took pics of the seeds and the seedlings. I will probably toss 80% of the seeds this time around and save the best ones for when I run out of TW.







As far as the lighting goes, That sheetmetal reflector curved like that was not a good idea, I believe it somehow amplified the lumens to the girls and it was just too much. I kept the nutes down around 600 the entire grow so that didnt burn them and the lower leaf was fine until the mildew.

The bulb performed well, the trichome production is not as good as the ceramic metal Halide produced.
The stalks are stronger and the buds are more dense though.

Its a bit of a trade off. The stuff grown under the CMH is real awesome, I never seen so many trichs and when burned in a joint the roach will drip resin on a large dobie. The stone is like instant, well, second hit and you feel relief. Lasts a couple hours. The yeild wasnt that bad.

I will have to see how this smokes to give a good comparison. I will have weight in 2 weeks.
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riddleme

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Yeah I was noticing the heat stress a few weeks ago but because of the mold and added heaters figured you had it under control, so didn't mention it

going with CMH in my next grow so looking forward to your update :bigjoint:
 
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cruzer101

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riddleme said:
Yeah I was noticing the heat stress a few weeks ago but because of the mold and added heaters figured you had it under control, so didn't mention it

going with CMH in my next grow so looking forward to your update :bigjoint:
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Oh I saw it too.
At that time I was thinking I had it under control and the extra juice would grow superbuds!
Ha, oh well never know unless ya try.

Yea if you dont have a digital ballast and you want higher quality smoke out of your strain ya ought to try this Phillips bulb.
I think you will like it.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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sorry you had bad luck with this run. The resin production is strange, mine are always super frosty and I credit it to my agro bulb. But even with all of the bad shit that happened, I bet the smoke will be real good and probly weigh 50% more by the looks of it.
 
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cruzer101

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Integra21 said:
sorry you had bad luck with this run. The resin production is strange, mine are always super frosty and I credit it to my agro bulb. But even with all of the bad shit that happened, I bet the smoke will be real good and probly weigh 50% more by the looks of it.
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Yea its a fat canopy.
Dont get me wrong, I am not complaining about this grow. I learned some intresting things about reflection and powdery mildew, although I could have done without the mildew. I am sure both took there toll on these girls.

Once they started to produce the seed the energy went there instead of bud mass and trichs so once again I say this was not a fair comparison, I am just stating what I see... I see more purple kush. lol I love the taste of that stuff but yield sucks.
 
phreakygoat

phreakygoat

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whoa, you got seeds? did the TW herm on you. i noticed some male flowers myself, but haven't got too many seeds so i figured they were false flowers. you still had a fantastic grow, and it'd be hard to outshine your last (insane) grow...

as for the kush's yield, I have some seeds that are basically og kush and trainwreck, gonna give those a whirl soon enough.

btw, just got a new 600w ushio bulb, working great. german glass is good imo...
 
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