GreenSummit
Active Member
totally with you here man.
R.I.P. Silk Road! I can't believe it!!!
- Thread starter CCCmints
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rory420420
Well-Known Member
To quote john ghotti
'The feds are a machine,they don't run outta time or money...'
This sucks guys,but the hippy silkroad is a left on shakedown street..ill see ya there!
'The feds are a machine,they don't run outta time or money...'
This sucks guys,but the hippy silkroad is a left on shakedown street..ill see ya there!
ricky1lung
Well-Known Member
Thinking your safe doing anything on the net is naive.
We know encryption methods have been cracked, TOR has been compromised
and is only as good as the software version being used by all TOR users.
Nothing is 100% safe.
rory420420
Well-Known Member
Its whack a mole time..drp is gone but you can damn well KNOW that another site is gonna step in,with better features and precautions,tighter security ect...the drug game allways has it 'droughts'..it'll rain again sure enough..untill then..find a good vendor NOW before they get sketched or too busy to get to you...
Impman
Well-Known Member
the dude was a fucking murderer and a criminal. IM glad its gone. Sorry, i you are getting good drugs from there . But we need to take a step back and fight for our liberty in the court system and through election process, not illegal activity that involves murder and extortion.
GreenSummit
Active Member
ugh no kidding. . . havent had to search for a goodvendor in awhile. oh well i know the routine.
CCCmints
Well-Known Member
you can live in paranoia if you like, but i choose a different route. i choose to educate myself on whatever it is i'm doing and decide whether or not it is safe. my silk road use was safe, i reaped plenty of benefits from my time using it. you were too scared and you missed out, sucks. the real rewards in life come with risk, not that 100% safe bullshit.
if only you knew how much murder and extortion silk road resolved..he didn't murder anyone so he is not a murderer. the majority of users on this site are criminals, including yourself; what is your point?
silk road had the potential to revolutionize the world even more than it already had. there are no positives in silk road being taken down, none, 0, zilch. i don't care what anyone thinks this is a terrible event and you are simply wrong if you think what happened today is positive in any way shape or form.
Impman
Well-Known Member
The potential to revolutionize the world is inside YOU. Not some hacker on the web that extorts and murders. Yes, paying for a hit on someone is murdering that person. I am not a criminal, I am an American. I obey the law and I would never pay for someones death. Thats my mother fucking point.
Positives: 1. One less murderer on the streets. 2. Criminal cartels are hurt badly. 3. Murder for hire is hurt badly. im busy but there are hundreds of other great reasons for shutting down a criminal enterprise that pays no taxes, and violates other peoples civil liberties in the name of liberty. Government control and regulation is NEEDED to prevent others from infringing on your right to private property and privacy.
Positives: 1. One less murderer on the streets. 2. Criminal cartels are hurt badly. 3. Murder for hire is hurt badly. im busy but there are hundreds of other great reasons for shutting down a criminal enterprise that pays no taxes, and violates other peoples civil liberties in the name of liberty. Government control and regulation is NEEDED to prevent others from infringing on your right to private property and privacy.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
if you grow cannabis, even with a card, you're still breaking the law, breaking the law... sorry, had to say it..
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ricky1lung
Well-Known Member
CCC,
Im not paranoid, and most certainly lost out on nothing.
I didnt lose my bitcoins, I did not have any info seized in the take down.
Realistically, the writing was on the wall, the sites days were numbered no matter how
far down the darknet hole the site resided. The guy ran the site from the US, which gave the feds
all they needed to take him down. The US feds can and do take down international sites all of the time
just because they were registered with a dot com or one of the other domain extensions they claim ownership of.
Transmission, storage and domain extensions are easy targets for the feds.
Im well educated with computers, websites, programing and web security, that is why I stay away from sites like that
and try to help others see the potential and ease of getting busted.
There are too many injection points for LEO to get any information they want, it could be at the ISP office, (Which they are already doing and have been for a long time), it could be
intercepted anywhere between you and the ISP and routed directly to the police.
It could be malware injected to either the site, your pc, phone etc. It could also be in your modem or router, there are far too many variables for me to risk my freedom
by making transactions on a notorious website that is guaranteed to be watched.
Im not paranoid, and most certainly lost out on nothing.
I didnt lose my bitcoins, I did not have any info seized in the take down.
Realistically, the writing was on the wall, the sites days were numbered no matter how
far down the darknet hole the site resided. The guy ran the site from the US, which gave the feds
all they needed to take him down. The US feds can and do take down international sites all of the time
just because they were registered with a dot com or one of the other domain extensions they claim ownership of.
Transmission, storage and domain extensions are easy targets for the feds.
Im well educated with computers, websites, programing and web security, that is why I stay away from sites like that
and try to help others see the potential and ease of getting busted.
There are too many injection points for LEO to get any information they want, it could be at the ISP office, (Which they are already doing and have been for a long time), it could be
intercepted anywhere between you and the ISP and routed directly to the police.
It could be malware injected to either the site, your pc, phone etc. It could also be in your modem or router, there are far too many variables for me to risk my freedom
by making transactions on a notorious website that is guaranteed to be watched.
Mr.Head
Well-Known Member
I read an article that if the gooberment had enough machines running TOR they could track TOR users. Then about a week later there was a massive increase in TOR users ( I want to say 40% increase might be misremembering), some suspected a bot net. I suspected the US Government, I bet it's a little more sophisticated then he was ordering fake ID's. We're talking about a guy who ran a business based on trafficking illegal goods, he isn't getting caught because of the things he ordered.
The feds have something else, something they are hiding, they told forbes "oh yeah, fake id's out of Canada, standard customs interception" yeah right.
This guy was doing interviews jumping all over the internet, so he couldn't be found and he's going to send fake fucking id's to his house? nope don't buy it for a second. They knew he was at this public library how? I have a feeling they figured out who he was on silk road and the second he accessed that account his position inside the USA sent out a high priority alert and he was nabbed within minutes of logging on. That's all speculation, but I would put WAY more stock in that then him ordering fake id's from Evil Canada lol. Fucking Canadians always polluting good ol' america
The feds have something else, something they are hiding, they told forbes "oh yeah, fake id's out of Canada, standard customs interception" yeah right.
This guy was doing interviews jumping all over the internet, so he couldn't be found and he's going to send fake fucking id's to his house? nope don't buy it for a second. They knew he was at this public library how? I have a feeling they figured out who he was on silk road and the second he accessed that account his position inside the USA sent out a high priority alert and he was nabbed within minutes of logging on. That's all speculation, but I would put WAY more stock in that then him ordering fake id's from Evil Canada lol. Fucking Canadians always polluting good ol' america
Impman
Well-Known Member
I am pro drug legalization 100%. This will not happen if we, the drug consumers, continue to set up illegal black markets instead of getting involved in the political system. We will only continue to be put in jail and fined and put down. Silk Road was a stupid pipe dream. Our government is too powerful to allow that to exist so openly. We can take the power back through legal and political process
Impman
Well-Known Member
Not in my county. Federal law has no authority to shut down my grow operation. Only the county and state does. The federal government powers are LIMITED TO the 17 Powers listed in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. I have read Article 1, Section 8 and there is nothing about growing weed in there. ALL POWERS NOT DELEGATED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE RESERVED TO THE STATE. ALL POWERS.
Figured this would happen. DPR is kind of a moron for doing this in the US. I always assumed he was in a different country where he couldn't be extradited. I would hope that this will inspire some skilled programmer to create a peer to peer system for listing items which like bittorrent might not present an easy takedown target. The Silk Road was not a pipedream, it was a somewhat flawed prototype.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
i do feel bad for people who lost money of course, but idk how bad i feel for dpr, you don't get into a gig like that not knowing the possible consequences imvho..
ricky1lung
Well-Known Member
Is it my fault you chose to go there and do business?
Im not trolling, Im explaining why people should be worried now that the site and server have been seized.
Im trying to help by explaining the ease of a bust and simplicity of injection, interception points.
I would rather be wise, than be in your position right now.
Hope it all works out for you.
***Edit***
On a side note, after the take down the bitcoin price tanked, so because of people
who dealt there, there are many bitcoin investors who also lost money today without ever having the "bollacks"
to do business at the silk road.
Impman
Well-Known Member
I live on HS forum man, I am no troll. I tried to use the Silk Road but it was too grueling of a process to get a bit coin for a poor lower class citizen like me. I think the bit coins were for the more affluent citizen with hundreds of dollars to spend on luxury drugs. I have to drink cactus sludge to get mescaline and grow my own weed for top shelf skunk...
I am really pissed to learn that Dread Pirate Roberts was involved in murder for higher and extortion. He was throwing his weight around as a drug dealer as much as any other drug dealer. I am not impressed with heroin and cocaine dealers at all. They only thing positive the SR was doing was selling LSD. Good LSD is impossible to find these days, that is the only bummer. But a smart hippy can still find some good L. So I am not trippin. Us hippies will always find a way to survive, especially in this great country that has laws against murder and thugs.
I am really pissed to learn that Dread Pirate Roberts was involved in murder for higher and extortion. He was throwing his weight around as a drug dealer as much as any other drug dealer. I am not impressed with heroin and cocaine dealers at all. They only thing positive the SR was doing was selling LSD. Good LSD is impossible to find these days, that is the only bummer. But a smart hippy can still find some good L. So I am not trippin. Us hippies will always find a way to survive, especially in this great country that has laws against murder and thugs.