ginwilly
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get rid of aggregate demand....... you are just flailing nowwe should get rid of aggregate demand and just replace it with more trickle down, because that works so well for "growth", eh?
dumbass.
get rid of aggregate demand....... you are just flailing nowwe should get rid of aggregate demand and just replace it with more trickle down, because that works so well for "growth", eh?
dumbass.
lol, you won't even defend the obvious lie you just tried to sneak in, because you know you are a lying sack of shit.my understanding of you involves the word retarded, yes.
even your heroes over at fox news agree that bush left us with a massive, record breaking, $1.5 trillion dollar annual structural deficit. take it up with the entire world and give up this old canard of yours.Tell us again how the stimulus was Bush's?
So what was the real deficit Obama inherited? The $600 billion deficit Bush was running plus the $200 billion of TARP money that probably won’t be repaid (mainly AIG and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac). That totals $800 billion. That was the real deficit Obama inherited.lol, you won't even defend the obvious lie you just tried to sneak in, because you know you are a lying sack of shit.
even your heroes over at fox news agree that bush left us with a massive, record breaking, $1.5 trillion dollar annual structural deficit. take it up with the entire world and give up this old canard of yours.
bush left a $1.5 trillion deficit for obama to deal with.
under obama's leadership, the deficit has been cut more than in half.
you're welcome, ya lying sack of shit.
lol, you're quoting the guy whose math led him to believe that there would be a romney landslide.So what was the real deficit Obama inherited? The $600 billion deficit Bush was running plus the $200 billion of TARP money that probably won’t be repaid (mainly AIG and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac). That totals $800 billion. That was the real deficit Obama inherited.
Then … he added $300 billion in his stimulus package, bringing the deficit to $1.1 trillion. This $300 billion was, of course, totally qualitatively different from the TARP money in that it was spending, not lending. It would never be paid back. Once it was out the door, it was gone. Other spending and falling revenues due to the recession pushed the final numbers for Obama’s 2009 deficit up to $1.4 trillion.
So, effectively, Obama came close to doubling the deficit.
Read more: http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/79359-these-are-the-true-deficits-bush-800b-obama-14t#ixzz2fxMUyOjt
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Oh look, there's Billy's Dick again. I guess he didn't get the memo about the "whole world".
Try using real math. How much did the debt rise under 8 years of Bush, how much has it risen during 5 years of Obama?
The sad part is, we both agree that Bush was awful. I don't understand your defense of Obama spending and how you call it a reduction.
1992 | $290.4 Billion*Deficit | $484 Billion*Deficit | R | D | D |
1993 | $255.1 Billion*Deficit | $412.78 Billion*Deficit | D | D | D |
1994 | $203.2 Billion*Deficit | $320.5 Billion*Deficit | D | D | D |
1995 | $164 Billion*Deficit | $251.53 Billion*Deficit | D | R | R |
1996 | $107.5 Billion*Deficit | $160.21 Billion*Deficit | D | R | R |
1997 | $22 Billion*Deficit | $32.07 Billion*Deficit | D | R | R |
1998 | $69.2 Billion*Surplus | $99.28 Billion*Surplus | D | R | R |
1999 | $125.6 Billion*Surplus | $176.16 Billion*Surplus | D | R | R |
2000 | $236.4 Billion*Surplus | $320.76 Billion*Surplus | D | R | R |
2001 | $127.3 Billion*Surplus | $168.16 Billion*Surplus | R | D | R |
2002 | $157.8 Billion*Deficit | $205.2 Billion*Deficit | R | D | R |
2003 | $377.6 Billion*Deficit | $479.8 Billion*Deficit | R | R | R |
2004 | $413 Billion*Deficit | $511.14 Billion*Deficit | R | R | R |
2005 | $318 Billion*Deficit | $380.84 Billion*Deficit | R | R | R |
2006 | $248 Billion*Deficit | $287.7 Billion*Deficit | R | R | R |
2007 | $161 Billion*Deficit | $181.51 Billion*Deficit | R | D | D |
2008 | $459 Billion*Deficit | $498.37 Billion*Deficit | R | D | D |
2009 | $1413 Billion*Deficit | $1539.22 Billion*Deficit | D | D | D |
2010 | $1294 Billion*Deficit | $1386.92 Billion*Deficit | D | D | D |
2011 | $1299 Billion*Deficit | $1350.31 Billion*Deficit | D | D | R |
2012 | $1100 Billion*Deficit | $1120.16 Billion*Deficit | D | D | R |
2013 | $759 Billion*Deficit | $759 Billion*Deficit | D | D | R |
that's because you are lying about what i said and trying to pass off dick morris math as more legitimate than the actual numbers that i posted. as you can see, when you look at real numbers instead of dick morris "math", there was a $1.5 trillion annual deficit left for obama to deal with.BTW, you are getting really dickish again, I can tell you have given up debating real facts.
oh, he's a racist sock puppet to boot.Wow Buck...you're even dumber than I suspected...snd I suspected you were pretty dumb...you're still believing that idiotic Obama minority bullshit....
One last chance to show you have an inkling of integrity. How much of TARP was paid back and did Bush pass the Stimulus?that's because you are lying about what i said and trying to pass off dick morris math as more legitimate than the actual numbers that i posted. as you can see, when you look at real numbers instead of dick morris "math", there was a $1.5 trillion annual deficit left for obama to deal with.
so yeah, i'm gonna be a bit dickish if you tell lies and talk about the "real facts" while waving dick morris math around.
no matter how many times you keep bleating the same nonsense, it doesn't change the historical facts.One last chance to show you have an inkling of integrity. How much of TARP was paid back and did Bush pass the Stimulus?
Bush got Tarp passedOne last chance to show you have an inkling of integrity. How much of TARP was paid back and did Bush pass the Stimulus?
thanks for the help Chesus, even though I'm pretty sure it was on accident.Bush got Tarp passed
Tell us how much of that money was paid back
Forced to work in "this perverted industry"? They are the forces that created the industry. Think a nurse practitioner feels bad about collecting $125k or more a year? How much would these people earn under a 100% government controlled system? (a good question, their earnings may climb, at first) What would happen if the AMA had not created an oligarchy that strictly limits the number of doctors graduating medical schools every year? (and for that matter, limiting the number of medical schools in the US) If doctors had to actually earn your money in a free market, their incomes would be considerably reduced, workaholic doctors excepted.Insurance companies and banks, teaming up with hospitals and big pharma... I'm sure they have our best interests in mind. We are little energizer bunnies generating cash to pay these guys. Nothing more.
And I don't blame Nurses, Techs, Doctors, Dentists. They are forced to work in this perverted industry.
this is why it is so tough to talk to people. Rather than point out where the article is "a load of shit", rather than say ANYTHING at all, you seem to just deny out of hand, likely because the statement does not comport with your belief and nothing more. What about that article is wrong and why?You believe this load of s--t then I do have a bridge I need to sell.
It is so much easier to impugn the source than it is to present facts.From the slanted CNN. Pssst!
Too late? What's going to happen? Heath care is shit in this country now. I think we are listed at 46th in the world. I don't know why you think the Amerikan Health Care Scam is so great but here ya go. It's not a real industry, it's fucking robbery.Then it will be too late.
All that is probably true, but it's just ~10% tax. You still have to pay out of pocket, unless you have an extended stay or extreme operation. Instead of just a medical debt, you have a fine for your medical expenses. If you don't pay, you don't get the Obamacare card. If you don't have the Obamacare card, you go to jail for not making bail. They already do this with car insurance when you don't pay a ticket. It used to be you could never go back to the city you got the ticket, now because of mandatory car insurance fraud, you can't register your car until ALL fines and bails are paid.You believe this load of s--t then I do have a bridge I need to sell.
What is not paid by medicaid ( alot) is payed for by people like me who have insurance in the form of higher premiumshere ya go
Am I wrong that this means you think medicaid dollars go to the uninsured er visit?