Drop the Knife! Police kill kid in knife attack

BS!
The street car operator called the cops because the idiot with the knife in one hand and his dick in the other was threatening some teen aged girls.
The idiot, after being told numerous times to drop the knife, was aggressive and his last (repeated) words were "You're fucking pussies" to the cops.
There was no taser there, the cop who fired it had just got on scene. Tasers aren't standard issue, most cops don't carry them.

I'm no fan of the cops, but this idiot got what he deserved.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/08/04/sammy_yatim_what_happened_in_the_words_of_witnesses.html

Oh, and

If you died for some reason, id call you an idiot too, because I don't agree with what you've said here. I think it is very idiotic, therefore according to your standards, your death would be justified. ;)
Good bye.



I hope I get what I deserve too.
How could anyone want otherwise?
Do you not want what you deserve?

Cheers!
;)


de·serve
Do something or have or show qualities worthy of (reward or punishment)


Who's doing the rewarding? god?
 

Stinky Buds

Well-Known Member
I suppose if you have a god, you could conceive that your god may give you what you deserve, but that's not my thing.
I work for what I get, so my reward, or what I deserve, are the fruits of my labor.
Nice try at the red herring though.

If I don't wave a knife around with one hand and my junk in the other, I won't be in the position of having cops pointing guns at me (for that anyway).
If, after the police are pointing guns at me and repeatedly demanding (rightfully) that I drop a knife I'm holding, and I don't, what do I deserve?
 

Stinky Buds

Well-Known Member
If I were, don't you think I might have mentioned it?
I posted a link to an article containing statements from people who were.
These statements show your claims that the idiot was just playing with his knife prior to the police involvement to be incorrect.
Then you tried to cloud the issue with a poke at whether god decides who deserves what.
When that didn't go well, you seem to want to question my leadership or some such...
God or my leadership (or lack thereof) have absolutely nothing to do with the point and are red herrings.
I'm not glad the kid died, but his actions lead to what happened, no one else's.
I don't care why he was waving a knife in one hand and his dick in the other intimidating the other people that were on the street car, but it certainly sounds like there was plenty of good reasons for cops to point guns at him.
So unless you were on the street car and can say for certain what he did or didn't do, your claims otherwise (several of which I have already illustrated) are BS like I said.
You can still walk away with some dignity here, but I'm betting you won't.
 

karousing

Well-Known Member
i said the police handled it incorrectly. they have better methods then the ones used. that was essentially an execution. and i never brought god into this. i simply bid you fair dues after you said he got what he deserved.

the officer with the taser, was on scene at the same time as the other ones. the fact the entire negotiation took 30 seconds instead of a possible 5 minutes which the outcome would have been drastically different.

oh and did you read your link? essentially he was talking with some girls, he pulled out a knife to ?impress? them (keep in mind hes an 18 year old kid from another country of which you probably know very little)

the girls screamed and ran, and without knowing what was happening the entire bus ran off. herd mentality. the only people that did witness him/the knife/the incident were confused by what happened.

saying he did not stab anyone when he had the chance, he sat down and waited, could have escaped, but stayed on board (probably awaiting authorities because he realized he fucked up)

and what did the authorities do? they gave him 30 seconds, he backed up, and got shot 3 times. once on the ground he got shot 6 more times. THEN he was tasered.

so please dont play like he deserved it. he didnt. the cops over reacted and have to be held accountable.

if a cop was shot 9 times for pulling out his baton and causing fear among a crowd what would happen?
 

karousing

Well-Known Member
seriously what would happen if every time a cop made someone feel threatened or scarred they simply shot him/her. 9 times of course! have to be fair.
 

Stinky Buds

Well-Known Member
I apologize, the god red herring was not you.

The kid died as a result of his own actions, starting with waving a knife and his junk at people.
It's too bad he died so young, but when you have a knife and someone with a gun pointing at you demands you drop it, multiple times, I don't care why you're not complying, you have to know you're at risk.
In your version, where was it that he told the cops they were fucking pussies multiple time?
While he was backing up?

I didn't start this by running my mouth about how the idiot was only playing with his knife, you did.
That was when I called BS, and proved it with statements from witnesses.
Your version, portraying the idiot as a victim, was that he was playing with his knife, and omitted that he was acting aggressively to the cops and that he had also been waving his dick around.

This is Darwin's work.
 

karousing

Well-Known Member
Dont you think it is hypocritical to ask someone that question when you are in the same boat?

Glass houses and all that...
i was asking because he seemed to have inside information as some of us might. he might have some source of information but was unable to provide said evidence to this.
glass house and all that in so many ways good sir.....
 

karousing

Well-Known Member
I apologize, the god red herring was not you.

The kid died as a result of his own actions, starting with waving a knife and his junk at people.
It's too bad he died so young, but when you have a knife and someone with a gun pointing at you demands you drop it, multiple times, I don't care why you're not complying, you have to know you're at risk.
In your version, where was it that he told the cops they were fucking pussies multiple time?
While he was backing up?

I didn't start this by running my mouth about how the idiot was only playing with his knife, you did.
That was when I called BS, and proved it with statements from witnesses.
Your version, portraying the idiot as a victim, was that he was playing with his knife, and omitted that he was acting aggressively to the cops and that he had also been waving his dick around.

This is Darwin's work.
you started by saying he deserved to be executed. you started by condoning the police officers actions. you started by stating false information regarding the equipment available to subdue to individual.
do you have children? a dog? a wife? a loved one of any sort? if so, would you want to see them murdered like this? probably not. if you have no loved ones i am sorry for that.
i would not want anything like this to happen to my chosen. even if they are young dumb and drunk. thats why we have to educate BOTH sides not just punish one.
 
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