Uncle Ben's Gardening Tweeks and Pointers

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Teehee

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Ok, I've just finished reading every post, from page 1 onwards. Wow. A lot of really good information here, and I'd just like to say thanks for everything you've contributed :)

A couple of quick questions, I'll try to keep them short.

1. When growing from seed, how long do you wait before giving them ferts? (I'll be using mostly blood + bone, just because it works out cheaper for me, is harder to screw up, and since it's an outdoor grow, the blood should help keep the bunnies at bay)

2. When they're small (past seedling stage, but under a foot), do you do anything different to normal in regards to ferts, for building up roots etc? Or just standard 3-2-1?

Thanks again! :)
 
Medical Grade

Medical Grade

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how do you know if your plants need 18-4-9 or 20-10-20 or 3-1-2? I think the 18-4-9 was for the time release osmocote - but in regard to the other two common npk values, how do you know what to get started with? I know UB stated "pick a npk value that you like and fork over the money".

I guess after reading the whole thread I was thinking about trying the "holy grail" Citris feed 20-10-20 and hope for the best. I will probably use foxfarm ocean forest as my grow medium. using that soil, would I just need to follow feed schedule reccomended to the package, or 1tsp per gallon every watering?

Thanks for any clarification!
 
Medical Grade

Medical Grade

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Thanks kite, i have seen your posts on several threads and appreciate your feed back! It seems like there is a lot of focus on the N - and it is easy to tell when your are too low or too high on N, but how do you know if your plant could use more P or K?
 
Kite High

Kite High

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They they need very lil P on containers. If you use the correct NPK ratio such as 3-1-2 then if your N is correct then the others are as well. This is why ratio is important.
 
Medical Grade

Medical Grade

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Just finished reading the insiders guide to mj growing by Mel Frank's. Looks like the stems will purple and fan leaves will yellow and growth will slow. If they are low on p. And you will get slow growth budding when low on k?

another tip from the book suggest double harvest cuts down time between harvest. Is it really quicker to just harvest the bud and re flower the plant? Or would a fresh vegged plant from the veg room be quicker to next harvest? How would the yields compare?
 
Medical Grade

Medical Grade

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Kite High said:
They they need very lil P on containers. If you use the correct NPK ratio such as 3-1-2 then if your N is correct then the others are as well. This is why ratio is important.
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Thanks that makes sense. I am about to dig into some other reading material I found linked by UB. Maybe I can wrap my head around this concept afterall :P
 
Kite High

Kite High

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The revenge will take longer. But is quite an interesting and fun grow. In containers you will not get a P def. boost K Sulfer Cal and Mag in mid flower
 
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uncle.duke

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got this from another forum.. and would like to see what people think.. since this thread is awesome!

hey everyone here is a gift to my fellow cannabis lovers-



1/4 cup rice uncooked
1 quart mason jar
350 ml distilled water
coffee filters
2.5 Liters milk
1 tsp unsulphured blackstrap molasses


shake water and rice together in mason jar until water is cloudy, discard solids
cover with a clean cloth and allow to stand in the dark undisturbed for 7 days
there will be a top layer, remove it however (turkey baster, etc) then filter the remaining liquid

now add one part rice water to 10 parts milk, place in 1 gallon container (DO NOT SEAL THIS CONTAINER pressure evolves)
place lid on loosely

allow 7 days standing, remove curds that have formed, and the light yellow liquid that results is your root accelerator, which will outperform hygrozyme and all that super-expensive shit at the gro shop.


add the molasses, this feeds the organisms, and refrigerated this should keep for up to a year.


To use- add one part serum to 20 parts distilled water (chlorine is not acceptable, it kills what you just spent weeks making)
and water plants as usual, you can foliar feed them this stuff too....they love it.

This is based on work done by a Japanese horticulturalist named Teruo Higa, University of Ryukyus, Okinawa Japan, in the '70's.

Also, septic waste and sludge is able to be consumed by these types of organisms, so they are a real tool for someone who is of that mentality.
 
Cooter@666

Cooter@666

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uncle.duke said:
got this from another forum.. and would like to see what people think.. since this thread is awesome!

hey everyone here is a gift to my fellow cannabis lovers-



1/4 cup rice uncooked
1 quart mason jar
350 ml distilled water
coffee filters
2.5 Liters milk
1 tsp unsulphured blackstrap molasses


shake water and rice together in mason jar until water is cloudy, discard solids
cover with a clean cloth and allow to stand in the dark undisturbed for 7 days
there will be a top layer, remove it however (turkey baster, etc) then filter the remaining liquid

now add one part rice water to 10 parts milk, place in 1 gallon container (DO NOT SEAL THIS CONTAINER pressure evolves)
place lid on loosely

allow 7 days standing, remove curds that have formed, and the light yellow liquid that results is your root accelerator, which will outperform hygrozyme and all that super-expensive shit at the gro shop.


add the molasses, this feeds the organisms, and refrigerated this should keep for up to a year.


To use- add one part serum to 20 parts distilled water (chlorine is not acceptable, it kills what you just spent weeks making)
and water plants as usual, you can foliar feed them this stuff too....they love it.

This is based on work done by a Japanese horticulturalist named Teruo Higa, University of Ryukyus, Okinawa Japan, in the '70's.

Also, septic waste and sludge is able to be consumed by these types of organisms, so they are a real tool for someone who is of that mentality.
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are you trying to make EM-1? A simple compost tea will achieve the same thing
 
budman111

budman111

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UB, what is you view on sea teas? Worth it as a supplement or is it unnecessary with a good balanced base feed A&B and thus unneeded?
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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budman111 said:
UB, what is you view on sea teas? Worth it as a supplement or is it unnecessary with a good balanced base feed A&B and thus unneeded?
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Know nothing about them. I don't do teas. Too lazy. I add compost to my potting mixes so when I water, the soil creates it's own tea. I'm also a big rainwater fan, especially that which is collected after a storm. It has some N created by the supercells and has beneficial microbes. My last project is to put in a bonafide rainwater collection system. It's becoming very popular where I live. For example, one of my doctors has a 42,000 gal. collection and filtration system. Provides for his family of 6 including his garden, even during severe droughts.

UB
 
budman111

budman111

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Uncle Ben said:
Know nothing about them. I don't do teas. Too lazy. I add compost to my potting mixes so when I water, the soil creates it's own tea. I'm also a big rainwater fan, especially that which is collected after a storm. It has some N created by the supercells and has beneficial microbes. My last project is to put in a bonafide rainwater collection system. It's becoming very popular where I live. For example, one of my doctors has a 42,000 gal. collection and filtration system. Provides for his family of 6 including his garden, even during severe droughts.

UB
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cool, thanks UB, great info on the storm related rainfall, never knew of that one, top info, you never fail! Water is not is short supply here in Scotland LOL, no probs here!
 
Budsworth

Budsworth

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I've got a 20 gallon drum that I have near my back porch to catch rainwater. last time I collected it and gave to my plants in hydro I got the dreaed MITES.
 
Kite High

Kite High

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Uncle Ben said:
Know nothing about them. I don't do teas. Too lazy. I add compost to my potting mixes so when I water, the soil creates it's own tea. I'm also a big rainwater fan, especially that which is collected after a storm. It has some N created by the supercells and has beneficial microbes. My last project is to put in a bonafide rainwater collection system. It's becoming very popular where I live. For example, one of my doctors has a 42,000 gal. collection and filtration system. Provides for his family of 6 including his garden, even during severe droughts.

UB
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Have also read of iron in rain water from huge t-storms
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Budsworth said:
Just saying I got spider mites from collecting rain water. They came from hedge to close to colecting barrel. Jezzzzz
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OK. Yeah, if they got a free ride cause you were near some infested outside plants I understand. I once had an anxiety attack when I noticed that leaves on my indoor plants were looking funky. Started turning over leaves only to find the entire indoor garden covered in aphids. Even outdoors of gardening for 40 years, I've never seen such an infestation. Hauled them out to the garage and hit them with malathion. No more aphids!

Bottom line, practice good sanitation and if you've been outdoors trouncing around in the vegetable garden or took a long hike in the country, take a shower and change into clean clothes before going near the cannabis garden.

Uncle Ben
 
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