Newb Closet Coco Grow, 400w MH+HPS

[mared juwan]

I had my dome off today to spray the clones, thought I'd snap some pics. They look exactly the same as yesterday which is good news I take it. Slowpoke is very hungry but has to wait 10 hours for the lights to come on in the other room so I can get the nutes. Last feeding for Slowpoke was long time ago, before I got my ppm tester. I think it was 5 mL/gal so I'm going 7 mL/gal (~600 ppm) this time.

 

[mared juwan]

Snuck into the room to get nutes. Upon closer inspection, Slowpoke looks shitty. Hope 20 seconds of cellphone light won't interrupt the big girls' sleep too bad.

 

[UserFriendly]

My plants need watering tonight. I was going to mix bloom and grow 50/50 because they are in their first 12 hour night right now. Any thoughts/suggestion?

The only time you would want to give veg nutes to a flowering plant is when you're starting up a sea of green or doing a seed run. Maybe I'm forgetting other instances, but that's a good rule of thumb.

 

[mared juwan]

The only time you would want to give veg nutes to a flowering plant is when you're starting up a sea of green or doing a seed run. Maybe I'm forgetting other instances, but that's a good rule of thumb.

yikes, I ended up giving them 100% grow nutes. So if I go to 100% bloom nutes next watering, should be okay?

 

[UserFriendly]

yikes, I ended up giving them 100% grow nutes. So if I go to 100% bloom nutes next watering, should be okay?

 

[jordann9e]

yikes, I ended up giving them 100% grow nutes. So if I go to 100% bloom nutes next watering, should be okay?

YES..

no need for grow nutes anymore...

 

[kbrrq28]

hey everyone. Great looking plants mared juwan!! I just finished reading your entire thread. Funny cuz I was planning on doing the exact same setup as you(400 watt mh conversion bulb for veg - 400 hps for flower). Personally I have, what looks to be, about the same amount of room as you but I was planning on putting my girls into flower a bit earlier for fear there would not be enough light when they finish. Does anyone think this one 400 hps will be sufficient enough to get close to max yield from mared juwan's plants?? I'm hoping the answer is yes so I can grow mine that big too!!

And I hope I'm not confused that you did indeed use an MH conversion bulb in your setup meant for the HPS? - my plan
Ill be checkin up here regularly. Hope you get a pound!!

 

[mared juwan]

Don't worry kbrrg, that won't be an issue anymore, hope someone answers your question anyway. Turns out one of my plants is a hermie and another is a full fledged male. They're dead now. My other plants are still good and growing really fast, one in particular is a monster - grown a foot in a week. I kept the remaining plants spread out a bit so they can grow in to fill the space of the KIAs. Slowpoke is doing much better and the clones seem okay too but slight nitrogen deficiency in the leaves of the two biggest.

 

[UserFriendly]

Do you know which plant each clone came from? I hope you labeled them.

 

[UserFriendly]

Me likey.....

 

[mared juwan]

I didn't take a clone from the male plant but the clone from the hermie should still be fine, right? I hope so because my dumbass didn't use a proper pen and my labels have been smeared to shit. I dread going into my flower room now, knowing I might find hermies. Out of the six remaining plants, five have huge white hairs and the other sure looks like hairs developing but apparently I was wrong before when trying to guess early. So as long as I have no other hermie instances, I will have at least five for sure females. I would also like to know how long I have to worry about this hermie threat. If I have no light leaks and a regular light schedule, will I know whether I have hermies in the next week or could it happen any time?

 

[TetraHyC]

Now you know why I have so many numbered plants from only 6 girls,I was going to say something about careful labeling, but. Sharpie's work very well.

 

[mared juwan]

So I am at my most discouraged point yet. And I was pretty fuckin discouraged during the whole burn thing. I have two more plants I'm almost sure are hermie now and another one with the all too familiar fat calyxes getting a little too fat (and full of balls). There are only two plants remaining that I can be totally confident calling females. And who knows if they'll turn out the same way - I didn't think I had stressed my plants that bad. I can't bring myself to chop any more plants today. How long before they release pollen? I'm going to wait awhile because if all my plants hermie on me I'll regret cutting some down. Hopefully things will look better tomorrow.

 

[trustduran2]

Damn man I am sorry about that... but at least you an clone the fem and get it poppin again real soon...

 

[trustduran2]

If my plants start growin balls I'm just gonna cut em off!

 

[TetraHyC]

Damn man I am sorry about that... but at least you an clone the fem and get it poppin again real soon...

Don't let it get you down, thats out of your control.
You should feel good, look at all the stuff you learned already.GPA 4.0
Find a girl make clones ba-da-bing.
I make 42 clones from 6 plants.
Don't trip.

 

[UserFriendly]

Yeah yeah. Just trash all your hermies and clones, flower the girls, then reveg and choose the best. The thing is, if all of those plants are going hermy, the ones that appear to be girls may shoot balls years from now. If it's in the genes, there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[mared juwan]

Thanks for making me feel better. You guys are the best. I think my drunken stupor amplified my discouragement last night. Today it is easier to remind myself that this was just an experiment and I expected to fail miserably. So at least I know I can actually grow the plants now. Can't give an updated hermie count until tonight, lights are out right now. So I have three options as I see it and they all involve pitching my clones. 1) take new clones from the non-hermie plants and LABEL BETTER this time, 2) just continue with flower and reveg afterwards, 3) get better quality seeds and start over. All three options seem okay but I would think options 1 & 3 would leave the shortest downtime with no plants in flower. If I have 8 weeks before harvest right now, then I could either make clones or grow from seed with enough time to have good size plants when the flower room becomes vacant. I have more confidence in those CFLs now that Slowpoke's growth has been really good under them. What do you guys think? Would getting some better seeds reduce my likelihood of this happening again or it's just the luck of the draw?

 

[UserFriendly]

If I were in your situation, I would trash everything but the girls. If you can wait a few more weeks, veg the girls a little longer, chop them up into many clones, and run a sea of green. You'll want at least 36 clones (in 1/2 gallon 6 inch bags)for your 400w so you might want to veg until you can get 50 clones and select the best 36 from them. Then while those are flowering, get you some of these seeds and veg until harvest on the clones.
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[TetraHyC]

If I were in your situation, I would trash everything but the girls. If you can wait a few more weeks, veg the girls a little longer, chop them up into many clones, and run a sea of green. You'll want at least 36 clones (in 1/2 gallon 6 inch bags)for your 400w so you might want to veg until you can get 50 clones and select the best 36 from them. Then while those are flowering, get you some of these seeds and veg until harvest on the clones.
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Joey Weed Seeds

I'll second that.

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