Atheists

[Padawanbater2]

Well I had more than a few, the main ones dont have to do with ghosts but it is of that nature I guess. Its not like telling you of such things is going to convince of anything, its just going to further confirm your opinion of me, which is BAT-SHIT-CRAZY lol.

I just said people who see ghosts aren't stupid or crazy, they're just unaware or ignorant of what's really going on.

I was asking so I could identify the flaw(s) in your reasoning which led you to believe you experienced a supernatural event.

 

[overgrowem]

Supernatural - happens OUTSIDE of nature. Nature encompasses all of existence, so please, tell me, what was your supernatural experience?

....Why do ghosts have to be in the realm of Religion or known nature(what we know evertthing?)I would be one of the first to say there may be things undiscovered in physics..We suspected electricity for centuries,but only got a handle on it 120 or so years ago...

 

[Padawanbater2]

....Why do ghosts have to be in the realm of Religion or nature(what we know evertthing?)I would be one of the first to say there may be things undiscovered in physics..We suspected electricity for centuries,but got a handle on it 120 or so years ago...

What would be the purpose of a ghost?

How do you define ghost?

 

[overgrowem]

I just said people who see ghosts aren't stupid or crazy, they're just unaware or ignorant of what's really going on.

I was asking so I could identify the flaw(s) in your reasoning which led you to believe you experienced a supernatural event.

..How about the Govs. remote seers who have located downed aircraft on the other side of the world,or accuratly drawn military facilities in Siberia?Rare,yes,but the odds are beyond astronomical....

 

[tyler.durden]

..How about the Govs. remote seers who have located downed aircraft on the other side of the world,or accuratly drawn military facilities in Siberia?Rare,yes,but the odds are beyond astronomical....

Links please...

 

[overgrowem]

What would be the purpose of a ghost?

How do you define ghost?

Why does a ghost need a purpose?Can't he be more like a remnant.....Define ghost...Way above my pay grade.1000 people would give 1000 definitions. I do believe ghosts have or are energy,which waxes and wanes.How Idon't know.

 

[overgrowem]

Links please...

Sorry no links google them and U might get something.the Ruskies used them first,We then started during ,I believe,the Clinton era(maybe before).There were a few jaw dropping sucesses reported,who knows what was stamped secret.Disbanded after 3 or 4 years.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Why does a ghost need a purpose?Can't he be more like a remnant.....Define ghost...Way above my pay grade.1000 people would give 1000 definitions. I do believe ghosts have or are energy,which waxes and wanes.How Idon't know.

The first step is defining what you mean by 'ghost', because like you said, you get very inconsistent definitions when you talk to people about these kinds of things. How can we say something exists without previously having defined what it is and what would be the purpose of speculating that it does exist without having first defined it?

Without a definition we can't take step 2.

 

[Heisenberg]

Sorry no links google them and U might get something.the Ruskies used them first,We then started during ,I believe,the Clinton era(maybe before).There were a few jaw dropping sucesses reported,who knows what was stamped secret.Disbanded after 3 or 4 years.

It kinda hard to listen evidence such as crash sites being located across the world, if that evidence is kept secret. Is there anything that would distinguish this claim from fantasy?

Remote viewing would be extremely simple to demonstrate and prove. We simply place an object or a written note some place isolated and the viewer tells us what he sees. In fact, a number of magicians and skeptics do that very thing. They keep an object hidden in a safe place, and ask remote viewers to identify it. Several of them offer a reward for the correct answer, and there is always the JREF million dollar prize.

So considering that remote viewing would be extremely simple and very lucrative to test, no one has shown even the slightest ability. It would seem rather strange for this to be so if remote viewing were true.

 

[tyler.durden]

Sorry no links google them and U might get something.the Ruskies used them first,We then started during ,I believe,the Clinton era(maybe before).There were a few jaw dropping sucesses reported,who knows what was stamped secret.Disbanded after 3 or 4 years.

All I can find is kookie sites and rational people calling bullshit. I can't find anything where either gov.t confirms such findings. Usually when one makes a extraordinary claim here, they support it with links to legitimate sites as a courtesy. Otherwise it could easily be dismissed as woo...

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

I just said people who see ghosts aren't stupid or crazy, they're just unaware or ignorant of what's really going on.

I was asking so I could identify the flaw(s) in your reasoning which led you to believe you experienced a supernatural event.

I told Doer (think thats his name) of my spiritually gifted friend and his mind reading abilities, I already abolished his explanation of micro-expressions that many con-artists use to trick people. I told this story too many times on here already, only about three times but still its a long story. Basically the short story is that this kid who I thought was fucking bonkers answered a question that I THOUGHT of on a silent walk to get some weed. On the walk back I was freakin out that this kid was able to read my mind (I looked composed though) and so my anxiety lead me to shameful thoughts that I didnt want him knowing and by me thinking those shameful thoughts I knew that he knew those thoughts so my mind became panicked. Near the end of that silent walk he turned to me and said "your faults are what define you, they are the diamond of your being". Those words put me at ease because theres almost no judgement to this guy... Unless your christian, then he hates you.
I no longer thought of him as a nutcase and communicated with him through thought on multiple occasion, cant hear his thoughts though. I've experienced more than mind reading with him, mind reading is not even that impressive after I experienced what else he could do. I tried my best to get him to make this knowledge public but he doesnt want the attention I guess, just willing to spread his knowledge to a select few.
Well if you didnt think I was crazy before, I bet you do now xD

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Calling me crazy or a liar is really the only way to dismiss these events.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Calling me crazy or a liar is really the only way to dismiss these events.

i do believe there is the third option of "dribbling idiot"

but all fun and games aside your accession awaits collect your uniform from the table on the left and move into the holding area where we will be serving refreshments to rdy ourselves for the final step to the dimensions beyond

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Sorry no links google them and U might get something.the Ruskies used them first,We then started during ,I believe,the Clinton era(maybe before).There were a few jaw dropping sucesses reported,who knows what was stamped secret.Disbanded after 3 or 4 years.

You will soon find out that this is not the place to talk about spiritual stuff, its really a place where these guys tell you that your beliefs are irrational and they take pride in thoroughly explaining why it is irrational... Very ironic I know lol The title of this forum is very misleading.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

i do believe there is the third option of "dribbling idiot"

but all fun and games aside your accession awaits collect your uniform from the table on the left and move into the holding area where we will be serving refreshments to rdy ourselves for the final step to the dimensions beyond

lol my fan club never fails to bring me smiles =)

 

[james76208]

So, what if you do? Religion doesn't own the rights to Ghosts. Not really really sure what you mean.

well most people group the two. Im not religious but i have seen ghost which makes me question whats really going on

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

I dont know how these guys can classify every supernatural claim that was ever made as merely a trick of the mind or you convincing yourself you seen something. They cant accept that a lot of the millions of claims ever made are true, they cant even accept that ONE of the millions and millions of supernatural claims ever made is true lol. It really shows you how they think. Im glad I never developed a limited mindset like that.

 

[james76208]

im opened minded as they get but I dont open it up so much my brain falls out

 

[ginjawarrior]

I dont know how these guys can classify every supernatural claim that was ever made as merely a trick of the mind or you convincing yourself you seen something. They cant accept that a lot of the millions of claims ever made are true, they cant even accept that ONE of the millions and millions of supernatural claims ever made is true lol. It really shows you how they think. Im glad I never developed a limited mindset like that.

im opened minded as they get but I dont open it up so much my brain falls out

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[Chief Walkin Eagle]

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xD atheists turning the "closed-minded" argument on us, how cute =)