Flushing....Whats your technique?

SimonD

Well-Known Member
For me it all boils down to this. Every profesional grower that I have ever read about and have respect for flushes their crop wether it be a soil or hydro grow. People love to argue the flushing debate on here til they are blue in the face many of whom have never completed a grow but if you read High Times you will not find 1 single pro that will tell you that you should not flush. I flush.
I'm a professional grower. Look me up on IC. Since you like to hear the voice of authority, my tutorials are posted all over the net, my plants and extracts have been used in advertising, and I do not flush. I do control the plants' nutrient intake and gear it appropriately toward harvest.

Simon
 

wbd

Well-Known Member
My statement is conclusive whether people grow indoors, in pots, or in their kitchen sinks. Plants have been around and growing long before man developed fertilizers and long, long, long before man developed hydroponics. How is my statement that plants growing naturally in the earth never get flushed a conditional assertion true only if everyone is growing in the earth?

Debating isn't your strong suit.
Containers are more likely to accumulate salts, therefore containers are more likely to require periodic flushing to eliminate excess salt buildups. You're not going to have that problem in the earth unless you're way overfeeding, and even then there's still no container to facilitate the kind of mineral buildups that get people into trouble.


You can call it corrective or preventative, whatever you prefer it's still a consideration for container plants above and beyond plants growing in the earth.
 

bigloc

Active Member
well I dont have running water so I just dump a bucket of water into the bowl after I take my shits ;)
 

lordjin

Well-Known Member
Containers are more likely to accumulate salts, therefore containers are more likely to require periodic flushing to eliminate excess salt buildups. You're not going to have that problem in the earth unless you're way overfeeding, and even then there's still no container to facilitate the kind of mineral buildups that get people into trouble.


You can call it corrective or preventative, whatever you prefer it's still a consideration for container plants above and beyond plants growing in the earth.
I agree. One must periodically flush their system to prevent toxic salt buildup. But that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the prolonged week to two week flush people do at the end of flower. I don't agree with it anymore, but still purge my system weekly between water changes.

As fanciful as it sounds for someone who relies so heavily on technology, I like to think that I'm artificially simulating ideal outdoor conditions 24/7. That means I try to fool my plants into thinking the water filled tub is actually the cold, fertile soil of the ground, the naturally occurring soil of the earth that is never flushed of all its nutriment.
 

midijunkie

Active Member
plants love a good flush whether in soil or h20. my plants always look alot better a week after a good flush. when it rains, your plants get flushed. plants grow naturally outside. recreate nature for A+ buds. :D
 

SirLancelot

Active Member
has anyone posted side by side studies?
then do what works for you and shutup
I have three times! but what would be the point in posting the results. If I came to a conclusion you didn't agree with on say taste how can I proove this too you over the internet? this is why I haven't wasted the time to do a journal. I've done it 3 times each time I had bomb as nug and couldn't tell a single difference in yield nor could I tell a single difference in plants that were flushed and not. SO how can I do the test and get you to believe the results? If I say I can't taste a difference it's not something you can see in a forum.
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
when it rains, your plants get flushed. plants grow naturally outside. recreate nature for A+ buds. :D
In nature, plants do not get salt buildup. After reading the last few posts I may have come up with something good. I know LordJin does true aero and is a master at it (if you're not you just have dead plants). I love growing in hydro for many reasons, control being #1. I can see there being a buildup on salts in soil, but not hydro. What if someone growing in containers flushed two weeks before the chop, getting rid of all the buildup, then went right back to giving nutes. Would that be beneficial? Would it not solve both problems of flushing and giving the plants their nutes to the end? It's just an idea that I would like to see discussed.
 

Impman

Well-Known Member
FLUSH YOUR BUD for god sake!!! it is the fifference between top shelf and cheaper meds at my club. hey organic people flush your damn bud! no one likes the taste of bat shit. Flushing is freaking key to healthy fresh tasting buds and not to mention flushing ADDS PoTENCY!
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
FLUSH YOUR BUD for god sake!!! it is the fifference between top shelf and cheaper meds at my club. hey organic people flush your damn bud! no one likes the taste of bat shit. Flushing is freaking key to healthy fresh tasting buds and not to mention flushing ADDS PoTENCY!
Its a shame you dont know what your talking about. thank goodness for the ignore function....
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Im always open to facts, but hesitant on theorys...
As are most experienced growers.
The newbies however, that's a different story.

Didn't you hear about the theory on putting juice in your reservoir to improve taste and trichome production?
To me, these kinds of theories go along side the theories people put out saying leaching or flushing improves taste, trichome production and envigors plant growth.

All serious growers do experiments, and all I know have come to the same conclusions, doing side by side experiments, leaching is only good for removing mineral buildup or correcting reservoir errors.


I recently did an experiment with leaching on my G13 x Haze plants (I had 3).
1 was given regular nutrient rich water, no leaching, no special remedies.
1 was given pure RO water for the last 13 days.
1 was given a lowered EC solution (less nutrients).

All were dried and cured in the same room, in completely similar conditions, with the same glasses.

There was no difference in taste, colour, odour, harshness or high.
I had 4 people testing the weed afterwards (close friends).

This is the 4th time I've done this experiment over many years, not once has there been any difference in the final product.
Neither have outsiders with zero growing experience been able to tell any difference.


Since people believe so much bullshit these days however, without any rational or logical arguments to its merit, it doesn't surprise me how many people believe in leaching.

The same questions are posed 10 times each week and it'll never stop.
 

SirLancelot

Active Member
lol no I haven't heard that one but I could see people believeing it.

My favorite is the people who use flushing chemicals to flush the chemicals out of their soil. HA what sense that makes.
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
I've heard that if you drive a rusty nail through the stalk, then add some cat piss, on a full moon, standing on your left leg, with your eyes crossed that it increases the THC by 10%. Noobs talk this shit that they have read on forums as if it is gospel truth. No wonder it takes so long to learn this. After finding some true master growers I have embraced their philosophy: it's a fucking plant, just like every other fucking plant. We're dealing with basic botany and growing, not some strange unknown plant from Mars.
 

lordjin

Well-Known Member
plants love a good flush whether in soil or h20. my plants always look alot better a week after a good flush. when it rains, your plants get flushed. plants grow naturally outside. recreate nature for A+ buds. :D
When it rains your plants gets flushed? And does God remove all the nutrients from the earth during this flush?
 

lordjin

Well-Known Member
I've heard that if you drive a rusty nail through the stalk, then add some cat piss, on a full moon, standing on your left leg, with your eyes crossed that it increases the THC by 10%. Noobs talk this shit that they have read on forums as if it is gospel truth. No wonder it takes so long to learn this. After finding some true master growers I have embraced their philosophy: it's a fucking plant, just like every other fucking plant. We're dealing with basic botany and growing, not some strange unknown plant from Mars.
You know how many grows I fucked up before I figured out flushing is bullshit? Frustrating. In my system flushing not only doesn't improve anything, it causes the plants to rapidly feed on themselves, which reduces final potency. That 's what I get for believing all these myths about flushing. There was even a point when I was preaching the virtues of flushing at one of the local clubs. What an idiot. Good thing there weren't any growers around at the time. Lol.
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
You know how many grows I fucked up before I figured out flushing is bullshit? Frustrating. In my system flushing not only doesn't improve anything, it causes the plants to rapidly feed on themselves, which reduces final potency. That 's what I get for believing all these myths about flushing. There was even a point when I was preaching the virtues of flushing at one of the local clubs. What an idiot. Good thing there weren't any growers around at the time. Lol.
I'm right there with you bro. I've said many times that I've discovered probably every possible way to fuck up a grow; I've done it all. Fortunately I've learned from those mistakes and not made them again. Even harder than growing is sorting out the junk on here. There are so many myths that are just plain wrong. Take a gardening class and become a "Master Gardener" like Uncle Ben; that will teach you more about how to grow this stuff than anything.
 

Sunbiz1

Well-Known Member
You know how many grows I fucked up before I figured out flushing is bullshit? Frustrating. In my system flushing not only doesn't improve anything, it causes the plants to rapidly feed on themselves, which reduces final potency. That 's what I get for believing all these myths about flushing. There was even a point when I was preaching the virtues of flushing at one of the local clubs. What an idiot. Good thing there weren't any growers around at the time. Lol.
I knew there was a valid reason I don't flush in-ground grows. Flushing is necessary for Fox Farms apparently though, they sell there own flush...gee I wonder why.
 
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