never watch another GOP debate

[Charlie Ventura]

there was no gun to my head. no one forced me to sign a W2. no one CAN force you to sign a W2. you have to sign it of your own volition.
like, duh.

Like duh? You still have teenagers at home, don't you Uncle Buckie?

I was wondering, have you ever tried to opt out of Social Security and/or payroll taxes through your employer? I mean, if as you believe, social security is voluntary at the employer/employee level, where you can opt in, doesn't it make sense that one can opt out as well?

Go to your employer tomorrow and tell him/her that you want to opt out of payroll tax deductions and social security deductions because its voluntary. Please report back on Tuesday.

 

[UncleBuck]

Like duh? You still have teenagers at home, don't you Uncle Buckie?

i was simply ridiculing your attempt at calling it 'slavery'.

I was wondering, have you ever tried to opt out of Social Security and/or payroll taxes through your employer? I mean, if as you believe, social security is voluntary at the employer/employee level, where you can opt in, doesn't it make sense that one can opt out?

why would i want to opt out? i am an ardent supporter of social security.

Go to your employer tomorrow and tell him/her that you want to opt out of payroll tax deductions and social security deductions because its voluntary. Please report back on Tuesday.

i am my own employer. i asked me and me said it was fine.

once the government legitimizes my enterprise and stops calling me a criminal for conducting mutually beneficial transactions between consenting adults, i will be happy to pay them accordingly.

like i have often said, this wonderful nation that i was born into has benefitted me greatly. the least i can do is pay her back for all the wonderful things she provides me.

 

[NoDrama]

there was no gun to my head. no one forced me to sign a W2. no one CAN force you to sign a W2. you have to sign it of your own volition.

like, duh.

If you want to collect a pay check you MUST fill out a W4 and have a W2 issued each year. Your employer has no other legal choice. Neither do you if you want to remain under the protection of the law.

You can choose to not fill one out, but you won't have a job or be able to collect pay. Your choice though, just like its your choice to not put contact poison on your product you sell to little kids.

 

[Charlie Ventura]

^^^ Ahh, so taxes are fine for me but not for thee?

 

[UncleBuck]

^^^ Ahh, so taxes are fine for me but not for thee?

i worked one of those government approved jobs at the beginning of the year, i have paid taxes this year.

last year, i voted for a measure that would have mandated that i pay $1000 to the state just for the honor of 'producing', as well as a 10% straight tax on anything i produce, in addition to all the other taxes that come with it.

sadly, a wave of tea bagging excitement crippled what should have been a slam dunk ballot proposition. thanks, baggers.

i have ZERO problem paying taxes. i do have a problem with being called a criminal for growing some plants and conducting transactions between consenting adults that hurt no one.

 

[UncleBuck]

If you want to collect a pay check you MUST fill out a W4 and have a W2 issued each year. Your employer has no other legal choice. Neither do you if you want to remain under the protection of the law.

You can choose to not fill one out, but you won't have a job or be able to collect pay. Your choice though, just like its your choice to not put contact poison on your product you sell to little kids.

but no one forces you to fill out a W4 (my bad, thought it was a W2).

that is all i am pointing out.

 

[dukeanthony]

Charlie are you one of those Crazy ass "Sovereign Citizens"?

 

[Coals]

Charlie are you one of those Crazy ass "Sovereign Citizens"?

Their not crazy, their aware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uliLfykURYo

 

[Coals]

But Reagan Increased taxes!
And deficit spent like no other President before him!
And got us Involved with The Middle east Wars!
And we bombed Libya!

And grew government by over 100,000 employees.

Reagan was a hollywood actor, not a conservative.

 

[UncleBuck]

Their not crazy, their aware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uliLfykURYo

*they're

you're welcome

 

[NoDrama]

but no one forces you to fill out a W4 (my bad, thought it was a W2).

that is all i am pointing out.

No one forces you to show up to work either, but if you want to get paid.....

 

[UncleBuck]

No one forces you to show up to work either, but if you want to get paid.....

....sell pretty flowers

 

[kindnugz]

This montage was made from the video of the Politico debate at the Reagan Library. No shit they are going to talk about him and discuss the tax situation in the country.

I'd like to see a montage of all of Obama's broken promises, except the video would be ten minutes long!

 

[dukeanthony]

A SAMPLE OF CAMPAIGN PROMISES KEPT BY PRESIDENT OBAMA:

No. 4: Extend child tax credits and marriage-penalty fixes
No. 16: Increase minority access to capital
No. 33: Establish a credit card bill of rights
No. 36: Expand loan programs for small businesses
No. 37: Extend the Bush tax cuts for lower incomes
No. 38: Extend the Bush tax cuts for those making less than $250,000 (couples) or $200,000 (single)
No. 48: Close the “doughnut hole” in Medicare prescription drug plan
No. 51: Require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions
No. 53: Give tax credits to those who need help to pay health premiums
No. 55: Require large employers to contribute to a national health plan
No. 56: Require children to have health insurance coverage
No. 57: Expand eligibility for Medicaid
No. 58: Expand eligibility for State Children’s Health Insurance Fund (SCHIP)
No. 63: Require health plans to disclose how much of the premium goes to patient care
No. 65: Establish an independent health institute to provide accurate and objective information
No. 69: In non-competitive markets, force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums for patient care
No. 70: Eliminate the higher subsidies to Medicare Advantage plans
No. 93: Reinstate executive order to hire an additional 100,000 federal employees with disabilities within five years.
No. 105: Increase the Veterans Administration budget to recruit and retain more mental health
No. 109: Fully fund the Veterans Administration
No. 113: Expand the Veterans Administration’s number of “centers of excellence” in specialty care
No. 121: Fully fund the Violence Against Women Act
No. 125: Direct military leaders to end war in Iraq
No. 126: Begin removing combat brigades from Iraq
No. 132: No permanent bases in Iraq
No. 161: End the abuse of supplemental budgets for war
No. 167: Make U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional on anti-terror efforts
No. 172: Open “America Houses” in Islamic cities around the globe
No. 182: Allocate Homeland Security funding according to risk
No. 195: Seek verifiable reductions in nuclear stockpiles
No. 196: Extend monitoring and verification provisions of the START I Treaty
No. 197: Stand down nuclear forces to be reduced under the Moscow Treaty
No. 215: Create a rapid response fund for emerging democracies
No. 222: Grant Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send money to Cuba
No. 225: Establish an Energy Partnership for the Americas
No. 229: Expand the Nurse-Family Partnership to all low-income, first-time mothers
No. 239: Release presidential records
No. 241: Require new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was not due to political affiliation or contributions.
No. 244: Provide affordable, high-quality child care
No. 247: Recruit math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession
No. 259: Reduce subsidies to private student lenders and protect student borrowers
No. 269: Increase funding for national parks and forests
No. 275: Expand Pell grants for low-income students
No. 290: Push for enactment of Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law to include sexual orientation and other factors
No. 293: Repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy
No. 315: Establish ‘Promise Neighborhoods’ for areas of concentrated poverty
No. 359: Rebuild schools in New Orleans
No. 371: Fund a major expansion of AmeriCorps
No. 411: Work to overturn Ledbetter vs. Goodyear
No. 422: Create new financial regulations
No. 427: Ban lobbyist gifts to executive employees
No. 433: Sign a “universal” health care bill
No. 435: Create new criminal penalties for mortgage fraud
No. 449: Raise fuel economy standards
No. 458: Invest in all types of alternative energy
No. 483: Invest in public transportation
No. 495: Double federal spending for research on clean fuels
No. 500: Increase funding for the Environmental Protection Agency
No. 507: Extend unemployment insurance benefits and temporarily suspend taxes on these benefits
No. 513: Reverse restrictions on stem cell research
Again, please keep in mind that this is only a fraction of the promises he has kept. I don’t think there is another president in recent history who could present such a list.

 

[beardo]

Rick Perry wants to lead this country but thinks theirs to many debates and says he won't dedicate his time to them- Sounds like a real winner
Ron Paul- Power to the people

 

[Parker]

just watch this...

[video=youtube;sTZrMNPhQAc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sTZrMNPhQAc[/video]

wow a vapid post by you how unusual

 

[Parker]

A SAMPLE OF CAMPAIGN PROMISES KEPT BY PRESIDENT OBAMA:
zzzzzzz.

great how you showed that obama is for big government and stealing our money for his causes. Thick as thieves is the saying

[video=youtube;HUTYL8HfCGo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUTYL8HfCGo[/video]

killing people and having no "sunshine" mean nothing right uncle duke
rhetorical you have no thought process so you cannot formulate an answer

 

[Coals]

Rick Perry wants to lead this country but thinks theirs to many debates and says he won't dedicate his time to them- Sounds like a real winner
Ron Paul- Power to the people

Rick's problem with debates is that he can't screen the questions and rehearse the answers. Hes just not bright enough to shoot from the hip. Witch is pretty sad for a Texan.

 

[UncleBuck]

Witch is pretty sad for a Texan.

 

[Carne Seca]

Rick Perry just crashed and burned. He will not make the nomination.