How Do We Eradicate Religion From Modern Society?

[Luger187]

I have already told you that I have my own reasons that do not concern you, if I did tell you, you would just mock me for my beliefs. So can you give me proof and facts of how the big bang initially started? Like how did nothing turn into the universe? That doesn't make sense either.

for the last time, the big bang theory is just our best theory at the moment. we dont know what was before the big bang. but just because we dont know DOES NOT give us the right to suggest we do know a god did it. that sounds MUCH more ridiculous. especially considering you have NOTHING to even suggest it is true. and even if that god did exist, why do you think he would give a shit about us? we are EXTREMELY insignificant in the universe.

edit: just like if i were to say that i know for a fact what happened before the big bang. there was a spaghetti god that combined with some special god sauce. then a reaction occurred, and a new universe came forth from the god sauce. we are that universe. i know this happened because i have this old book here that tells me. the spaghetti god came down and talked to people, and they wrote the book. i have faith, and you should too.
how stupid does that sound? that is exactly what the religious do. they say they know for a fact, but they have ZERO backup for their claims. and their excuse for it all is that they have faith. its utter bullshit

 

[Hepheastus420]

for the last time, the big bang theory is just our best theory at the moment. we dont know what was before the big bang. but just because we dont know DOES NOT give us the right to suggest we do know a god did it. that sounds MUCH more ridiculous. especially considering you have NOTHING to even suggest it is true. and even if that god did exist, why do you think he would give a shit about us? we are EXTREMELY insignificant in the universe

So you have no facts and I have no facts? Tell you what, when you find out for sure that the big bang theory turns into fact and that is how the universe began then you can complain about religion. Until then just face the fact that religious people think different then you.

 

[Luger187]

So you have no facts and I have no facts? Tell you what, when you find out for sure that the big bang theory turns into fact and that is how the universe began then you can complain about religion. Until then just face the fact that religious people think different then you.

we do have facts that show that the universe was once a singularity. science does not claim to know what happened before the big bang. they say 'we dont know'. you on the other hand claim to know, so you must provide evidence.

 

[Luger187]

Hep, you must realize that atheists do not claim to know how the universe was created. we do not know. but we think it is crazy to believe a 2,000 year old book that has been changed MANY TIMES by humans, is fact. you claim to know god did it, but fail to explain why or how, or even show any evidence at all that he did. shouldnt you have SOMETHING to rely on that says you are right?

 

[Luger187]

Until then just face the fact that religious people think different then you.

should we just let a group of muslims think we are evil and want to kill us, just because they interpret their holy book as saying so? does freedom of religion go so far as to say you can believe in ANYTHING and nobody can argue with it, because you believe it?
religion is not automatically correct because it calls itself a religion

 

[Hepheastus420]

should we just let a group of muslims think we are evil and want to kill us, just because they interpret their holy book as saying so? does freedom of religion go so far as to say you can believe in ANYTHING and nobody can argue with it, because you believe it?
religion is not automatically correct because it calls itself a religion

Come on bro you know I don't agree with killing. I'm only defending the religious people who don't corrupt what they read and understand. Besides the Quran never said to kill us so if a Muslim wants to kill us that's because he is crazy and you have the right to smack him on the head with a baseball bat.

 

[Hepheastus420]

we do have facts that show that the universe was once a singularity. science does not claim to know what happened before the big bang. they say 'we dont know'. you on the other hand claim to know, so you must provide evidence.

And I have said I have no evidence so sorry for constantly asking to prove what you believe is fact. How about this I have faith that god is our creator. Now I never said it's fact nor did I say I can provide evidence.

 

[Luger187]

Come on bro you know I don't agree with killing. I'm only defending the religious people who don't corrupt what they read and understand. Besides the Quran never said to kill us so if a Muslim wants to kill us that's because he is crazy and you have the right to smack him on the head with a baseball bat.

you dont agree with killing, but your god does. so do a lot of other gods, according to their holy books. its very easy for religion to be practiced in such a way that it is 'ok' for them to harm others, as long as their god says its ok.
those that practice their religion peacefully and spread the idea of freedom of religion are also spreading the idea of religious fundamentalism/extremism. the two go hand in hand. there will always be factions of religions that view it in such a way that average society would consider bad. the more you protest those who speak negatively of religion, the more you defend those who harm others in the name of religion. by not having that opposing force to keep religion in its tracks, religion will not think twice about spreading like a virus and taking control of its hosts. it always has, always does, and always will

 

[Hepheastus420]

you dont agree with killing, but your god does. so do a lot of other gods, according to their holy books. its very easy for religion to be practiced in such a way that it is 'ok' for them to harm others, as long as their god says its ok.
those that practice their religion peacefully and spread the idea of freedom of religion are also spreading the idea of religious fundamentalism/extremism. the two go hand in hand. there will always be factions of religions that view it in such a way that average society would consider bad. the more you protest those who speak negatively of religion, the more you defend those who harm others in the name of religion. by not having that opposing force to keep religion in its tracks, religion will not think twice about spreading like a virus and taking control of its hosts. it always has, always does, and always will

Yeah my god does not me. So it still doesn't justify why others kill. And if it's always gonna happen then just face the music.

 

[olylifter420]

So then why dont you shut then, huh?

Giving us shit cause we aint got "facts" while you dont have the facts.to base what happened pre "bing bang"

we do have facts that show that the universe was once a singularity. science does not claim to know what happened before the big bang. they say 'we dont know'. you on the other hand claim to know, so you must provide evidence.

 

[Luger187]

Yeah my god does not me. So it still doesn't justify why others kill. And if it's always gonna happen then just face the music.

if your god does, then other people like you may find an excuse and reason to kill someone by reading scripture. all it takes is a different interpretation to obtain justification.
yes, killing will always be a human problem. but religion can so easily be twisted and taught in a way that manipulates people. it can give people a REASON to kill. we saw this on 9/11.
religion gives us too many problems compared to the positives it gives(only for those who believe in it, of course). look at our political system. all the politicians are religious people, or people that pretend to be religious just to get votes. people even vote in politicians that are of the same religion as them, nevermind their background or what they plan to do. then all these people put intelligent design into textbook form and try to claim its science. they slow down funding for very important scientific research.

also you have ZERO evidence. the stuff the religious 'scientists' come up with gets laughed at by everyone because they flat out lie or change things around to fit their preconceived ideas. they have a whole museum dedicated to creationism where they teach kids dinosaurs lived with humans! http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=creation+museum&aq=0&oq=creation+muse
that is totally WRONG(even if they were to find good evidence today, it would still be wrong because they had nothing beforehand, and were lying to people while acting like an educational museum.)
imagine if they didnt do things like this. imagine how much this changes peoples lives. what if the next great scientist grew up in a house that taught this garbage and visited museums like this? as opposed to a legitimate education that teaches how reality works and WHY it works. which is going to come up with better theories?

all these problems religion causes society, just so YOU can have a nice fuzzy feeling inside. all of which is nothing but a process of the brain and body.

 

[Dizzle Frost]

well put down Luger

 

[Luger187]

So then why dont you shut then, huh?

Giving us shit cause we aint got "facts" while you dont have the facts.to base what happened pre "bing bang"

who claims to know what happened before the big bang? not me.

[video=youtube;uyCkADmNdNo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCkADmNdNo[/video]
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0317_060317_big_bang.html
http://big-bang-theory.com/

First of all, we are reasonably certain that the universe had a beginning.
Second, galaxies appear to be moving away from us at speeds proportional to their distance. This is called "Hubble's Law," named after Edwin Hubble (1889-1953) who discovered this phenomenon in 1929. This observation supports the expansion of the universe and suggests that the universe was once compacted.
Third, if the universe was initially very, very hot as the Big Bang suggests, we should be able to find some remnant of this heat. In 1965, Radioastronomers Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson discovered a 2.725 degree Kelvin (-454.765 degree Fahrenheit, -270.425 degree Celsius) Cosmic Microwave Background radiation (CMB) which pervades the observable universe. This is thought to be the remnant which scientists were looking for. Penzias and Wilson shared in the 1978 Nobel Prize for Physics for their discovery.
Finally, the abundance of the "light elements" Hydrogen and Helium found in the observable universe are thought to support the Big Bang model of origins.

 

[olylifter420]

who claims to know what happened before the big bang? not me.

how funny cause that is the same thing we (believers) say when you accuse us of being some "religious nut job"! You seriously need to step out of your bubble and into reality... You all speak of reality like some natural thing for you all, but what is reality when it is construed with this hatred for believers and a want to put them down... that my friend is a mental issue and you probably do not live in reality...

 

[olylifter420]

imagine if hitler or stalin would of not have killed so many millions of people what great minds we could of had now... dont you just think if these aforementioned atheists were not to of done the things they did, what advances do you think we would have had?

if your god does, then other people like you may find an excuse and reason to kill someone by reading scripture. all it takes is a different interpretation to obtain justification.
yes, killing will always be a human problem. but religion can so easily be twisted and taught in a way that manipulates people. it can give people a REASON to kill. we saw this on 9/11.
religion gives us too many problems compared to the positives it gives(only for those who believe in it, of course). look at our political system. all the politicians are religious people, or people that pretend to be religious just to get votes. people even vote in politicians that are of the same religion as them, nevermind their background or what they plan to do. then all these people put intelligent design into textbook form and try to claim its science. they slow down funding for very important scientific research.

also you have ZERO evidence. the stuff the religious 'scientists' come up with gets laughed at by everyone because they flat out lie or change things around to fit their preconceived ideas. they have a whole museum dedicated to creationism where they teach kids dinosaurs lived with humans! http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=creation+museum&aq=0&oq=creation+muse
that is totally WRONG(even if they were to find good evidence today, it would still be wrong because they had nothing beforehand, and were lying to people while acting like an educational museum.)
imagine if they didnt do things like this. imagine how much this changes peoples lives. what if the next great scientist grew up in a house that taught this garbage and visited museums like this? as opposed to a legitimate education that teaches how reality works and WHY it works. which is going to come up with better theories?

all these problems religion causes society, just so YOU can have a nice fuzzy feeling inside. all of which is nothing but a process of the brain and body.

 

[bud nugbong]

i saw this ad on tv where a pastor or whatever was asking for 1,000$ donations, and if you did that most likely god will grant you a favor. wtf is that? and for an example he talked about a woman who was struggling and because she gave 1,000 to god (this fools house payment) she got "blessed" with a new job and a loan or some bullshit.

religion is just a different way for people with no skills to make money, well they have skills in bullshitting people/.

 

[Luger187]

how funny cause that is the same thing we (believers) say when you accuse us of being some "religious nut job"! You seriously need to step out of your bubble and into reality... You all speak of reality like some natural thing for you all, but what is reality when it is construed with this hatred for believers and a want to put them down... that my friend is a mental issue and you probably do not live in reality...

oly says the darndest things...

imagine if hitler or stalin would of not have killed so many millions of people what great minds we could of had now... dont you just think if these aforementioned atheists were not to of done the things they did, what advances do you think we would have had?

if religion wasnt a part of the process, the people wouldnt have been persuaded to do what they did. hitler would not have been powerful because he couldnt have gained political momentum with no jews to hate on. how can you hate jews if there is no such thing as a jew? if they were just other germans, how would he differentiate them? maybe race(which he also did), but thats another issue


BTW, sorry about the bad audio quality on the vid

 

[Luger187]

i saw this ad on tv where a pastor or whatever was asking for 1,000$ donations, and if you did that most likely god will grant you a favor. wtf is that? and for an example he talked about a woman who was struggling and because she gave 1,000 to god (this fools house payment) she got "blessed" with a new job and a loan or some bullshit.

religion is just a different way for people with no skills to make money, well they have skills in bullshitting people/.

aka psychopaths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy
theyre also good in the banking industry

 

[Hepheastus420]

if your god does, then other people like you may find an excuse and reason to kill someone by reading scripture. all it takes is a different interpretation to obtain justification.
yes, killing will always be a human problem. but religion can so easily be twisted and taught in a way that manipulates people. it can give people a REASON to kill. we saw this on 9/11.
religion gives us too many problems compared to the positives it gives(only for those who believe in it, of course). look at our political system. all the politicians are religious people, or people that pretend to be religious just to get votes. people even vote in politicians that are of the same religion as them, nevermind their background or what they plan to do. then all these people put intelligent design into textbook form and try to claim its science. they slow down funding for very important scientific research.

also you have ZERO evidence. the stuff the religious 'scientists' come up with gets laughed at by everyone because they flat out lie or change things around to fit their preconceived ideas. they have a whole museum dedicated to creationism where they teach kids dinosaurs lived with humans! http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=creation+museum&aq=0&oq=creation+muse
that is totally WRONG(even if they were to find good evidence today, it would still be wrong because they had nothing beforehand, and were lying to people while acting like an educational museum.)
imagine if they didnt do things like this. imagine how much this changes peoples lives. what if the next great scientist grew up in a house that taught this garbage and visited museums like this? as opposed to a legitimate education that teaches how reality works and WHY it works. which is going to come up with better theories?

all these problems religion causes society, just so YOU can have a nice fuzzy feeling inside. all of which is nothing but a process of the brain and body.

Are you not listening to anything I say? I agreed that religion is gonna be abused and I don't agree with it. So you're arguing with the wrong person. And I have said I don't have evidence dipshit. Man LISTEN I already said I don't care what you say, because you group me with every other religious person out there. If an atheists sees no point in life so causes destruction then I can group you with him and say everyone should have a religion. But guess what. I'm not gonna do that because unlike you I'm open minded to other people's beliefs. How about you do the same? Get over it you lost against all religious people around the world. Besides stop acting like religion is causing every problem in the world. Religious people and atheists are both just as bad and ending religion won't cause those people to be any better. Shit you guys are blind to see that. How about you go find how the universe actually began and stop hating religion as a whole.

 

[Hepheastus420]

i saw this ad on tv where a pastor or whatever was asking for 1,000$ donations, and if you did that most likely god will grant you a favor. wtf is that? and for an example he talked about a woman who was struggling and because she gave 1,000 to god (this fools house payment) she got "blessed" with a new job and a loan or some bullshit.

religion is just a different way for people with no skills to make money, well they have skills in bullshitting people/.

Listen, not every religious person does that.