What's your theory of life, the Universe and everything...

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Not really a bad day, just tired of it ya know. Everytime I post a theory about something on here people start flying out of the woodwork to prove me wrong...why? I'm not trying to prove everybody else wrong. Just presenting an ALTERNATIVE to most modern day beliefs. You know what I mean FPT...you've seen it before.:blsmoke:
 

Titania

Well-Known Member
What the fuck does it matter? We're here and that's that. Any evidence provided about ANYTHING cannot be trusted or believed unless you actually warp back through time and see for yourself in person.

Normally I would have some serious input on this, but fuck it ya know...... too many Buzz Killingtons here. Why even bother?
Buzz killingtons? It's been really pleasant so far, every one's just been putting forward their ideas. To be honest, with a response like "What the fuck does it matter?" I'm guessing your input would not be of much value. What you don't understand, is that seeing something in person raises other fundamental questions, like, is this real? How can you trust your own senses so surely? Not that I expect you to give an intelligent reply.
 

Azgrow

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How can you trust your own senses so surely? Not that I expect you to give an intelligent reply.
i remember this site now..lol...
as long as were not in jail...who cares about were we came from..lol...peace az
 

email468

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Buzz killingtons? It's been really pleasant so far, every one's just been putting forward their ideas. To be honest, with a response like "What the fuck does it matter?" I'm guessing your input would not be of much value. What you don't understand, is that seeing something in person raises other fundamental questions, like, is this real? How can you trust your own senses so surely? Not that I expect you to give an intelligent reply.
I suspect I am one of the Buzz Killingtons (if not THE one). I think Ernie gets upset because I insist on a rational explanation for everything.

I think I eloquently defended that position (looking for a rational explanation) here:
https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/1500-aliens-63.html#post619748

I do promise to post a cosmology 101 on this thread as soon as i have time to do a bit of research and get my thoughts down.
 

Azgrow

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it pointless to have anytype of intelligent conversation on-line..there are to many trolls/flamers,as well as lots of info gets lost in the translation of the internet...its best to keep converstaions based on the green...just my 2cents tho...peace az
 

email468

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it pointless to have anytype of intelligent conversation on-line..there are to many trolls/flamers,as well as lots of info gets lost in the translation of the internet...its best to keep converstaions based on the green...just my 2cents tho...peace az
If i can bring one person to the world of science, skepticism and critical thinking, to me it is worth all the flaming trolls. Besides, it is mental gymnastics, you never know who is pounding away at the keyboard.

I tend to avoid threads and forums that i think are pointless. :joint:
 

Azgrow

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I tend to avoid threads and forums that i think are pointless
usually i do to..but man im feelin high off this fresh cut..an these type of threads make fora great read....i dont wanna high-jack this thread..so like you said i will take my bow..peace az
 

ORECAL

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this thread has great potential.... but I see Ernie's point. I would not want to put out my feelings and values of life just to have someone rip them apart or tear me down. Just because people don't think or believe the same things as you do does not mean that it is now your job to change who they are.
I also can see email's point too. It's a great feeling when you can open up someone's mind to something. I'm all for learning news things and teaching new things whenever I can, but I would not devulge into this thread and say things that are that personal knowing that there are people on here that just want to prove people wrong and shove their point of view down my throat.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Buzz killingtons? It's been really pleasant so far, every one's just been putting forward their ideas. To be honest, with a response like "What the fuck does it matter?" I'm guessing your input would not be of much value. What you don't understand, is that seeing something in person raises other fundamental questions, like, is this real? How can you trust your own senses so surely? Not that I expect you to give an intelligent reply.
No you won't get an intelligent reply from me on this subject. I'm crazy...everything I say is a work of fiction and cannot be believed. Who the fuck are you to judge me anyway? You don't know shit about me. I say what the fuck does it matter because what the fuck does it matter? If you found out the true meaning of life right this fuckin second, what would you gain? You would still go to work every single day, and pay your taxes just like the next schmoe. I've wasted half my life trying to figure out "why we're here" and ya know what, evertime I DO post something REMOTELY intelligent, there are 10 other people showing up to prove me wrong. Sorry if I brought down your thread dude, but I'm just over it. Fuck it all.

:peace:out.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
this thread has great potential.... but I see Ernie's point. I would not want to put out my feelings and values of life just to have someone rip them apart or tear me down. Just because people don't think or believe the same things as you do does not mean that it is now your job to change who they are.
I also can see email's point too. It's a great feeling when you can open up someone's mind to something. I'm all for learning news things and teaching new things whenever I can, but I would not devulge into this thread and say things that are that personal knowing that there are people on here that just want to prove people wrong and shove their point of view down my throat.
Thank you...at least someone gets it.
 

ORECAL

Well-Known Member
I just wish that there was a way that we could talk about these things and not have people fuckin with us. I'm not saying that there aren't people that could do that here. but it seems that anyone who really is able to talk about shit and not turn it into a fight or bullshit namecalling contest... does not take the chance on haveing that happen so they stay away from any thread that gives them that possibility.
 

Titania

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this thread has great potential.... but I see Ernie's point. I would not want to put out my feelings and values of life just to have someone rip them apart or tear me down. Just because people don't think or believe the same things as you do does not mean that it is now your job to change who they are.
I also can see email's point too. It's a great feeling when you can open up someone's mind to something. I'm all for learning news things and teaching new things whenever I can, but I would not devulge into this thread and say things that are that personal knowing that there are people on here that just want to prove people wrong and shove their point of view down my throat.

Ripping apart peoples personal philosophy is not what this thread is about, It's about sharing. We can critique, point out flaws, explore ideas together, it doesn't, and shouldn't turn into a battleground for opposing views. I have put forward my own ideas, and I welcome criticism and debate on it. I will never mock someones thoughts, as long as he/she makes an effort, and who's theory is logical and rational. And please, divulge away...
 

Titania

Well-Known Member
No you won't get an intelligent reply from me on this subject. I'm crazy...everything I say is a work of fiction and cannot be believed. Who the fuck are you to judge me anyway? You don't know shit about me. I say what the fuck does it matter because what the fuck does it matter? If you found out the true meaning of life right this fuckin second, what would you gain? You would still go to work every single day, and pay your taxes just like the next schmoe. I've wasted half my life trying to figure out "why we're here" and ya know what, evertime I DO post something REMOTELY intelligent, there are 10 other people showing up to prove me wrong. Sorry if I brought down your thread dude, but I'm just over it. Fuck it all.

:peace:out.

What can I say? some people just give up on life...:cry:

Your still welcome to post your thoughts, thanks.
 

Titania

Well-Known Member
I suspect I am one of the Buzz Killingtons (if not THE one). I think Ernie gets upset because I insist on a rational explanation for everything.

I think I eloquently defended that position (looking for a rational explanation) here:
https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/1500-aliens-63.html#post619748

I do promise to post a cosmology 101 on this thread as soon as i have time to do a bit of research and get my thoughts down.
I always knew you were the 'One' lol:mrgreen:.

I have come across a debate with you and Ernie before, and I give credit to you for relentlesly battling ignorance. I'm glad your going to get your thoughts arranged, and not just ramble like so many people do. looking forward to it...:blsmoke:
 

email468

Well-Known Member
this thread has great potential.... but I see Ernie's point. I would not want to put out my feelings and values of life just to have someone rip them apart or tear me down. Just because people don't think or believe the same things as you do does not mean that it is now your job to change who they are.
I also can see email's point too. It's a great feeling when you can open up someone's mind to something. I'm all for learning news things and teaching new things whenever I can, but I would not devulge into this thread and say things that are that personal knowing that there are people on here that just want to prove people wrong and shove their point of view down my throat.
I'm not out to prove anyone wrong. I am out to encourage looking for a rational and naturalistic explanations for everything (yes, everything). So given the choice between - an "ancient martian race carved the face on mars" and "it is a trick of the light on a regular rock" - well i'm sure you can take a guess at which explanation I believe. But that doesn't mean it is the right explanation - just the most reasonable and the most likely. My question is - why would someone choose the unreasonable and less-likely explanation? There are lot of reasons both good and bad. Some good reasons would be they never heard conflicting evidence or like Ernie, believe evidence that they've reviewed. Some bad reasons for believing would be blind faith, a "need" to believe whatever it is and like Ernie, believing bad evidence in the face of more compelling (or at least more scientifically-based evidence).

I will be the first to admit that some of these ideas are very compelling. I really enjoyed reading "Fingerprints of the Gods" and "The Orion Mystery". They were horseshit but highly enjoyable reading and very compelling until you actually start doing a bit of research and realize that the explanations are such stretches it is not really advisable believing without further evidence especially in the light of more compelling rational evidence.

This isn't about right and wrong - it is about irrational and rational, supernatural and natural.

And if you offer ideas without evidence, you should expect people to ask why... or what about... or have you considered....
 

email468

Well-Known Member
I would add that if anyone wants to have a supernatural thread where they discuss ESP, aliens, out-of-body stuff, psychics, homeopathy, etc... and want NO critics or skeptical input - i will not force my views.

There are some threads i would admittedly enjoy tearing into but reading the posts i sense (must be my ESP) that i would be an unwelcome intruder on their fragile world. I do not try to shake up their world to get my jollies.

But if you welcome me to your thread then beware what you're getting. :joint:
 

smokinjs

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I would add that if anyone wants to have a supernatural thread where they discuss ESP, aliens, out-of-body stuff, psychics, homeopathy, etc... and want NO critics or skeptical input - i will not force my views.

There are some threads i would admittedly enjoy tearing into but reading the posts i sense (must be my ESP) that i would be an unwelcome intruder on their fragile world. I do not try to shake up their world to get my jollies.

But if you welcome me to your thread then beware what you're getting. :joint:
what am i thinking right now?:mrgreen:
 
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