Busted In Houston Tx

South Texas

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The right to search & seizure all hinges upon one thing. Did the Law Fucks "Insinuate" that they "had" to search the house or did they simply request permission. If they insinuated that they HAD to..... that's permission under duress, unlawful as hell. There is 100's of case cites where the case was thrown out of the Courts, the Law Dogs got their ass in bigtime trouble. Civil action time. Them Bitch's didn't drive all the way out there to ASK permission. We had Truent Officers chasing me in Houston, not the HPD. Are they authorized by he school, or was it a set-up? Somebody needs to get some straight answers. What did the Police Report say?
 

redivider

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under duress would be to say: i have to search your house for your son or else i will charge you with obstructing justice.

that's duress, and some judges won't see it that way, b/c cops can lie when conducting an investigation. it's 'free speech'. if you lie to the police while they are investigating, it's obstruction, tampering, blah blah blah....

anyways...

them saying: we're going to have to search inside your house, it's standard procedure.

and you saying: yes.

that's consent and they can search.

they don't have to ask you for your consent... you can grant them consent by leaving the door open and not saying anything when they walk in.

there's actually a whole lot of ways she could've consented and not really known that it was her right to refuse... too late now...

now we have to be more careful b/c the our government keep giving LEO more leeway into our homes.
 

South Texas

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It's NOT to late. We understand the signed by Judge Search Warrant. THEN, it is TOO late. Standard Proceedure (SOP) "Standard Operating Procedure" is Not to roam around in somebody else's Home. Under Duress, You fucking Law Dog Snitch, is "Using the Office of Police Enforcement, as a tool, not authorized by the State, to gain entry". Lies at will be, legal. But not when the "Right to Privacy" comes into play. You've got BS procedures mixed up with Constitutional Rights, once those Rights are imposed upon, Oh Lord, Here We go. Why TOO Late, big Dog??? There is no Legal standing for TOO Late. Tell the truth, eat shit that the Law shoves down our throat, & be a Happy Man? Is that Bla,bla,IT! Define the term, "Under Duress" and tell US it does not apply, while your busy fucking yourself at every opportunity you get!
 

South Texas

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You've got facts & Bullshit confused. The Supreme & Federal Courts rulings has NEVER justified Your statements. "A door open meets the qualified satisfaction to invade Right to Privacy? An open window? Is that what my 1983 Civil action is based upon, "She opened the door" This is America, We open doors as We see fit. We have Laws that allow such, without undue enforcement by the Govermental Employees. Unless you know the Law, and how it works..........
 

drains21m

Member
The right to search & seizure all hinges upon one thing. Did the Law Fucks "Insinuate" that they "had" to search the house or did they simply request permission. If they insinuated that they HAD to..... that's permission under duress, unlawful as hell. There is 100's of case cites where the case was thrown out of the Courts, the Law Dogs got their ass in bigtime trouble. Civil action time. Them Bitch's didn't drive all the way out there to ASK permission. We had Truent Officers chasing me in Houston, not the HPD. Are they authorized by he school, or was it a set-up? Somebody needs to get some straight answers. What did the Police Report say?
It says in the police report that my wife repediatly refused, said no, and the officers told her that she had no choice and that they would not help look for her son untill they were allowed entry to search. Also says in the report that she sighned consent... She swears she signed nothing and would not lie to me about this. My wife said that while incarcerated they had her signing all kinds of crap (i think they snuck in concent in then). We go back to court this friday the 10th of june. My lawyers are likely to reset the court date because we havent finnished paying them th 10,000$ still owe like 3,000, I have been working 80+ hours a week to pay as fast as I can.... Stay tuned and as allways... FIGHT THE POWER!!!
 
the above recommendation is pursuant to this here law..
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/pdf/HB00164I.pdf#navpanes=0

say it with me: JURY TRIAL. one more time; JURY TRIAL. pay them nothing.

hypothetically, i'd try to find a Doc to falsify the date on that there recommendation & you're all gravy. good luck & Jah Bless!
I don't know how to say it any other way. bobbypyn has no idea what he's talking about. That link is to a housebill that NEVER PASSED. Introducing a bill is not the same as having it enacted into law. Texas IS NOT an MMJ state yet. Taking legal advice from a stoner is a bad idea.
 

greenjoe

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What would happen in texas if you had a couple of hand guns..not registered........and got caught with them( instead of the pot)....would your crime be as sever as a few pot plants? If not i would get the hell out of that state..

p.s. i heard Massachusetts is just as wacky
just sayin
 

guy incognito

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Nothing about this makes sense. If a child skips school they don't notify the police. I have never heard of that happening unless it's an on-going issue that needs police intervention. And the idea that police would show up to the house to search for the child doesn't make any sense either, unless it was an on-going problem of the child never showing up.

Also the fact that you had over a qp of product and 30+ plants growing and your wife was not trained to slam the door in the pigs faces baffles me. If you have a grow going you should never let them in under any circumstances. Let them bust your door down if they want in bad enough.
 

Sealight

Member
Sorry to hear about that man, Really sucks, bullshit laws, all we can do is grow in secrecy and work to change the ignorant and injust laws that exist.
 

Jeffdt1966

Active Member
Good luck .... remind them that they just let willie off with a 500 dollar fine and he had a pound on the honeysuckle rose ... just this week as a matter of fact ... Hope everything works out for you both ...
 

South Texas

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I've personally had Government Officials forge my signature, when I signed Under Duress. Other than using scare tatics to extort funds, Here is the questions that We have for Him. ( Your Atty.)
#1.) Does the School employ Truency Offices? A simple fucking Yes or No would work? After so many $1,000's of Dollars Am I asking to much? It's not a "Police State, and of course, the Police Dept. has NO jurisdiction ..... unless a crime stated in the TX Penal Code has been claimed. Yes or No. If no. the whole case void, Evidencene gained by the fruit of the"Posion Tree." If you don't find the answer as to what started this whole ball of wax started, the snowball effect, it will never be understood. Understanding is key to defense.
I say.... The Police had no authority whatsoever to come to Your Wife.... waiting for you to go to work, to proceed on a tip of growing, using your Son as a piss-ass excuse due to lack of probable cause. We all know that Women are least likely to give a good defense, wait 'till the Husband is gone. That's exactly what I see/think. Lack of Jurisdiction, using the Wife as a means to probable cause, it was never about the Son. Over the years, they have worked on ways to get around probable cause, the Game Wardens,.. using them because they could not get a Judge to sign a warrant. They got busted for such. Somebody snitched, which is, and will never be a cause for a warrant. Instead of trying to do it right, they cut conners, devised a method to use the Son, while you were away, to gain acess. Because your Wife said & did the right things, it saved your ass, legally. But they was bound to enter, to satisfy the commanding Officers, and could NOT back off. Due to some ignorant female. I truely believe this is the true story. Hug your Wife, she done perfect. The Police report reflexs so. As said before, the "Insinuated" they had the Authority, after a fefusal, plus, they was out of thier Jurisdiction. It's called, "It ain't no fun when the Rabbit gets the gun". And you have the Gun.
Your Atty. sucks, extording money via fears & knowalage of Law. "HE" knows better. But consider, He has to live there, also, can't piss off the Local law.... Think about that. NEVER hire an Atty. living in the same area!....
Be a nice person later, time for the throat. You've paid them 7 plus Grand thus far? What Motions has been filed.... Discovery, to Dismiss, surely.
Just make out a YES or NO question to the Atty. Was the local Police autherized to be sent out on a stupid ass skipping school ordeal ? Yes or No. Straight up question, watch the reaction, watch the beating around the bush. When the Atty. has to scruim and hemhal, to answer a paid for question, Houston, We have a problem.
I would call the local IAD, quit putting your life solely on one BS person, and set up an appointment to report Police abuse. I would also think about using this criminal case to document everything needed to do a full civil action suit without a cost to you, let the State pay for info that you need to do a documented civil action suit. The more that is documented now, is less a civil action suit will cost.... get my drit? Call IAD, show them the paper work.. Police Report. Throw in that American Statesman Newspaper might be interested, in Austin. I made front page, a bus load of reporters & IAD showed uo. "Internal Affiairs Dept." Hope this helped.
 

Cali chronic

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I just watched a netflix documentary on a guy in Texas who was railroaded to the electric chair there. You best find a great attorney and spend whatever you got plus 10% to get away from that! After your probation is over I would move away from there, But not Cali our taxes are killing us and they plan to shove it deeper. Not trying to scare you, but you best take this real serious. This could mean years of your life.....Best of luck and remember "What you think about comes about." Believe when you hire the right Attorney that it will be fine.
 

drains21m

Member
Ok went to court yesterday. It was reset again and here is why. My lawyers are requesting this signed concent they claim they have. It has been 3 months allmost. I know they dont have one, atleast not legit. What really pisses me off is this pretrial probation.... Extorting money out of us so we can keep this illusion of freedom. Not to mention fighting cps.... Even if I lose this case I will find annother way to win something else, its what I do! FIGHT THE POWER!
 

drains21m

Member
There is no snitch or conspiracy here and heres why. My step son is a special needs child. He has ocd,adhd, tourettes and autisim. The school has lost him before. He just walks out. He has been found by police before walking down the highway. My wife and I have threatend the school with legal and media action. So the school was only trying to cover their ass.
 

canuckgrow

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All I can say is good luck to ya bro....Keep fighting...never give up they are banking on you giving up and cutting a deal.......Its all about cash....For the cops,,,The lawyers,Judges......CPS is whole world on its own though....I had a run in with them up here in Canada a few years back. I feel your pain on that front dude. All I can say is don't rely on any lawyer to tell you what your rights are.....Find out for yourself and make sure you demand them. When you are informed they(CPS) are afraid and will back down.

Good luck
 

Alphadawg

Active Member
They were supposed to have a search warrant before just busting into your grow they can't just search and bust your things open.
 

txhazard

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I hate to throw salt on your wounds, as this is obviously a huge fear of a lot of ours. But it is time to get a laywer, now! They are going to fuck you every way they can, but an attorney makes this much much harder, as they know what is allowed and what is not.
Your grow was behind a locked door, your meds were in your room, you have a viable defense to get the kids back. You only had 30 plants so you should not be in federal territory and a lot of people get off with just probation for such offenses.
They did not have a warrant, so there is a chance this could all be thrown out of court anyhow, but call a lawyer first thing tomorrow morning!
Wise this one is...good luck bro ill include you and your family in my prayers.
 

txhazard

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They were supposed to have a search warrant before just busting into your grow they can't just search and bust your things open.
If your wife let them in even an inch that gives them the right to search the home if I am not mistaken, even if they used a play on words to get her to let em in. Fucking cops...i miss the serve and protect not the bend over and screw.
 

Farfenugen

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Did you know that a good percentage of cops are MJ users. And do you know where most of them obtain their stash? Guess.
 
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