When Prop19 Passes...

[mipbar]

how does holland consider pot? schedule 1 like us?
http://www.amsterdam.info/drugs/
the only thing i cant find info on is if they have an at home use policy...

if we can pull bits from them i know we can make this work as an 'initiative' to something greater.

Newsweek just posted a good 'pot' page this morning. This link covers "Countries that come close to Californias marijuana legalizing dreams"

http://www.newsweek.com/photo/2010/10/25/countries-that-come-close-to-california-s-marijuana-legalizing-dreams.html

 

[desert dude]

I believe if an 18 year old is old enough to kill or be killed in the military then they are old enough to smoke a joint if that is what they want to do. I did not say marijuana has been legalized you stated legal smoke posession and gardens would =legalization under 19 because I pointed out that 19 doesnt legalize marijuana= by your own critera we have allready atained legalization. 19 doeasn't legalize and we have legal smoke for those who need it

The problem with making it legal for those under 21 is that would make it unsellable to the voters. If you are holding out for that you will be explaining to your grand kids why pot is still illegal in 2050.

Prop 19 will be decided by the sober population of CA, not by dopers. I think it is going to pass and drag all of you growers into the real world where you have to get real jobs like the rest of us.

 

[TokinPodPilot]

The problem with making it legal for those under 21 is that would make it unsellable to the voters. If you are holding out for that you will be explaining to your grand kids why pot is still illegal in 2050.

Prop 19 will be decided by the sober population of CA, not by dopers. I think it is going to pass and drag all of you growers into the real world where you have to get real jobs like the rest of us.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_16408972?IADID=Search-www.insidebayarea.com-www.insidebayarea.com

 

[mr.swishas&herb]

do you all believe that California will be the new Amsterdam if this passes?

 

[PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1]

The problem with making it legal for those under 21 is that would make it unsellable to the voters. If you are holding out for that you will be explaining to your grand kids why pot is still illegal in 2050.

Prop 19 will be decided by the sober population of CA, not by dopers. I think it is going to pass and drag all of you growers into the real world where you have to get real jobs like the rest of us.

Oh Than Phillip Morris, RJ,,,and the "Big bussiness" will sell you the Real Kind They are a hard working corparation don't you know

 

[mipbar]

Price will go down, but probably not by too much. Profits/Taxes will be funding schools, building roads, maintaining parks instead of funding your local douche-bag grower's lifestyle or Mexico's war

 

[TokinPodPilot]

Price will go down, but probably not by too much. Profits/Taxes will be funding schools, building roads, maintaining parks instead of funding your local douche-bag grower or Mexico

This is a common lie for proponents. Taxes, fees and assessments go to regulation and enforcement of the cannabis industry. No schools, no roads, no parks. In fact, by challenging Federal statute, California risks losing funding for roads, schools and public services like parks. Way to not read the bill....

 

[veggiegardener]

Price will go down, but probably not by too much. Profits/Taxes will be funding schools, building roads, maintaining parks instead of funding your local douche-bag grower's lifestyle or Mexico's war

LOL!

I doubt it will produce enough revenue to cover the additional legal cost of 500 jurisdictions enforcing their own ordinances.

 

[desert dude]

Oh Than Phillip Morris, RJ,,,and the "Big bussiness" will sell you the Real Kind They are a hard working corparation don't you know

Yeah, the big Tobacco Corporations are conspiring with the Devil right now to figure out how they can take over the pot business and evade the federal laws against it.

 

[desert dude]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_16408972?IADID=Search-www.insidebayarea.com-www.insidebayarea.com

I have one word for you: Broadus.

 

[TokinPodPilot]

Yeah, the big Tobacco Corporations are conspiring with the Devil right now to figure out how they can take over the pot business and evade the federal laws against it.

Depending on whom you've decided to opt in for the part of the Devil, that statement is fairly accurate. Too bad the most profound and accurate statement to ever come from you is an ineffectual attempt at sarcasm.

 

[PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1]

I read that,,,what is "Broadus."?

 

[mr2shim]

I believe if an 18 year old is old enough to kill or be killed in the military then they are old enough to smoke a joint if that is what they want to do. I did not say marijuana has been legalized you stated legal smoke posession and gardens would =legalization under 19 because I pointed out that 19 doesnt legalize marijuana= by your own critera we have allready atained legalization. 19 doeasn't legalize and we have legal smoke for those who need it

So I suppose you protest alcohol and casino laws? Or are you just trying to criticize the only "legitimate" thing you can find wrong with p19? It's one of the two. I'm betting it's the latter.

They're basically the same laws as drinking. Except the punishment is a bit more severe. I think it's fair, alcohol should carry even worse penalties. If you oppose the minimum 21 age for cannabis you should be all over alcohol law boards protesting, and writing to your state representatives to lower it to 18. Something tells me you don't do that.

 

[mipbar]

Misc detail laws to prevent 'stoned' driving (as opposed to 'drunk' driving) etc will be enacted. That's just an example. The point being, further details will need to be worked out I'm sure and grow with the legislation to make it as safe as possible for all.

 

[TokinPodPilot]

I have one word for you: Broadus.

You can use as many words as you like. Broadus is a nifty safety blanket for people to resort to in order to feel like they're winning. This measure would have been a close call even with full cannabis community support. I see numerous reports over the past week indicating that general support for the bill is waning. Maybe if you shake some chicken bones while you chant Broadus, you'll get some results.

 

[beardo]

So I suppose you protest alcohol and casino laws? Or are you just trying to criticize the only "legitimate" thing you can find wrong with p19? It's one of the two. I'm betting it's the latter.

yes I do have a problem with those also, and I am not the first to have issue with this hyprocracy. you also know that is far from the only problem I can find with 19 as we have been through several of them

 

[beardo]

I have one word for you: Broadus.

Whats Snoop got 2 do with this?

 

[mr2shim]

yes I do have a problem with those also, and I am not the first to have issue with this hyprocracy. you also know that is far from the only problem I can find with 19 as we have been through several of them

I've seen most of your issues with P19, I can honestly say I don't think any of them are really that valid or good enough to vote no, but it's your choice. Even if it's the wrong one.

 

[PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1]

I now live in a state that was big and still grows tobacco,,,If you think the "Heads",,,have not debated on the fortune of another crop,,,I really think you'd be mistaken. Money=Influence=The power to change,,,Hell cigs are still legal,,,It's about money in the legalization game and it's not been proven to produce in prop 19 IMO,,,from what I read?,,,I'm for what you are,,,but to make it really happen there needs to be proven income,,,to offset a lot of unhappy entities. JMO.

 

[veggiegardener]

u guys are dumb. in order for the DEA and feds to come in and raid EVERYONE, would cost a rediculous amount of money. not to mention the flood in jail space for all these people. do you really thing they are going to get their hands tied up with no sense drama potheads? this would be the biggest media slap in the face against themselves. not to mention obama already stated pot isnt on the top of HIS agenda. if raids to happen in CA it will still be the big operations and now they might lower their standards and go for the medium operations. and when i say "operations" im just speaking on terms of money flowing. wether its good or bad. remember in the end it will ALWAYS be about money in terms of govt action. .....heres what I think will happen..

after it gets voted yes, the days following will probably have a flood of people smoking pot, and it'll just be free food for the news to get these victory parties. pot heads will be everywhere. im sure every time someone gets in trouble during this phase will be highly publicizied if somehow "pot" was involved. it sucks but thats how we seem to dumb down our selves and make it easy for media to exploit it.

A lot of taxes are paid to the IRS each year. Most of it comes back as funding for schools and major infrastructure projects.

There are strings attached, like enforcing Federal Law.

They leave MMJ patients alone, because a jury trial is damn near impossible to win, in California.

Enter P19, and expect some really nasty repercussions.