TheBrutalTruth
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Strange, I'd give that dishonor to FDR, with Obama being a close second, Carter being third, and both Bush's taking fourth and fifth.
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budsmoker87
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idk much about woodrow wilson, but if he sold our future sovereignty to a group of men belonging to a private bank, who enslaved our country by creating our currency, i'd say HE made the BIGGESt mistake a president could possibly make, and thus deserves the number one spot for worst president. If it weren't for the federal reserve's position now, we wouldn't have any of the financial problems we have today.
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PadawanBater
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He's definitely in the bottom 5.
I'd agree with the other ones you listed, same as Wilson, all of them deserve to be on that list.
FilthyFletch
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Im not saying Bush was by any means our best president but I do think the way he handled all the shit he was given in his terms wasnt as bad as some want you to think for the amount of crap he was dealt.He did unite our country in a great time of need after 9-11 he stood strong in an unknown situation which was good. Then toss the 2 war front Katrina and a scared economy and rising gas costs plus rebuilkding the damage clinton had done he di about a C- job overall with some places better or worse then that.Obama is flunking on everypoint and not for those who say its all Bushes fault but on his idealkology and actions he is flunking. History may weel have to change the dumbest president which has been given to George W. and it will most definatly have to be Obama. I mean I saw first hand what he does when he was a senator and he took that bad act multiplied it by a million and is now doing it to our country.We have had some bad presidents and FDR and Carter are right there. Would have to toss Clinton and Obama in there right away also. Thinmk if I had to list top 5 bad ones right off hand mIght go Obama, FDR,Carter,Clinton,Bush jr
medicineman
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Bush II absolutely in the top 3 worst, Actually I put him above Nixon, number two, and his father, #3, but I may be a bit prejudiced. I'm only rating those that have been presidents while I've been alive. Having never lived under Hoover, I can only speculate what an asshole he must have been.
natrone23
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Hey didn't Vi go to High school with Hoover
CrackerJax
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The only thing you do Med Man does is speculate....try cracking a book sometime. Ask a neighbor, I'm sure he/she will let you borrow one.
bicycle racer
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after 9/11 ronald mcdonald could have united america that credit goes to no one. when collectively attacked people of the same country/tribe/gang/family come together dont give curious george that credit.
jfgordon1
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CrackerJax
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Well I disagree that ANYONE could have united the country after 9/11.
I don't however consider that to be Bush's real success. No, his big positive was recognizing that the battle needed to be taken to the terrorists. That he did in spades. Even Osama declared Iraq to be his central front. Bush took it to them and cleaned their clocks. Other mistakes he did make, and don't get me started about his fiscal policies (terrible), but he did realize that a hard response was needed, and he gave it.
bicycle racer
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well yes going into afghanistan at the time which i have no particular issue with. at the same time 9/11 was used as a catalyst to invading iraq which is utterly unrelated to bin laden and his efforts. saddam was very much hated by muslim extremists for various reasons for one saddam is no muslim by the standards of bin laden and other muslims. if saddam caught bin laden upsetting his dictatorship in iraq he would kill him. simply saddam is a kin to kim jong neither are religious and there concerns are or were staying in power simply.
Holy shit thats exactly my list too!!
I think Obama will fuck the country more in 4 years than FDR did in 16, so he is probably going to move into position #1.
CrackerJax
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Or how about....TWO BIRDS...ONE STONE. And it worked.
bicycle racer
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saddam wanted no fight with the us he new that was death for him. we went into iraq for reasons other than the safety of the united states more for interests of the united states. if 9/11 never happened there would have been no way to convince the american people to back an invasion in iraq.
CrackerJax
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Oh, so that's why he was trying to get nukes and was shooting at our jets before the war. You need to do a bit of research....
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PadawanBater
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Exactly. They used it as justification to invade Iraq and duped the majority of the American public.
CrackerJax
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No one was duped. All who voted on it read the SAME info. Was their intelligence bad....yes, but most of that originated from the Clinton administration. That's the sort of thing which happens when a president hamstrings his own intelligence agencies.