Is the press giving the president a free pass?
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CrackerJax
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Happy Friedman day!!! It was June 6th.
Each year it is getting farther and farther away.
MuyLocoNC
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That's the first time I've seen that Donahue clip. I think the fact that Donahue then went on for decades, after being presented with such a SIMPLE and incontrovertible argument for capitalism, to argue against capitalism shows that you cannot change these peoples minds. I think that's why it is so frustrating to debate liberals, facts and history just don't hold water with these zealots. They relentlessly try to demolish capitalism, regardless of the fact that we all are reaping the benefits of capitalism, yes even the poorest of us, and our lives are made easier, more comfortable and without question longer not in spite of, but because of capitalism.
MuyLocoNC
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This clip is awesome as well. I love the portion on the difference between the good intentions of social programs vs the actual negative effect of those very programs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfdRpyfEmBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfdRpyfEmBE
TheBrutalTruth
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Heck with Friedman,
Happy D-Day... here's celebrating the killing off of a bunch of racist, bigoted asshats who were too stupid to stand up to a clearly psychotic leader.
CrackerJax
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Hitler was a smooth talker (one of the greatest speakers of our time) in desperate times..... it happens. Sound familiar?
TheBrutalTruth
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Careful, you might be accused of making a fallacy-laden argument. It is forbidden to point out that Obama and Hitler are both demagogues that talked about Hope and Change in a period of economic turmoil.
And I don't even want to know what kind of response mentioning that both of them were Socialists would bring out Obama supporters...
Of course there were some Germans that tried to assassinate Hitler, so it just goes to show that you can't judge an entire group of people by the worst examples.
CrackerJax
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Gosh, did I say all that.... 
you mean like obama?
bicycle racer
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i watched those clips what a self important and obvious racist. yeah colonization always does wonders for those colonized what a joke. he obviously thinks there is a big difference between absolute slavery and poorly paid slave labor which there really is not. there are obvious benefits of capitalism or any system for that matter but justifying invasions cultural control and wars based only on capitalism is a little twisted and looks at life and the world very selectively at best. the current form of hyper greed driven capitalism is causing a number of our (the us) countries current problems there has to be some system of controlling out of control business practices and the current sytem of self regulation by itself is failing.
CrackerJax
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Bicycle, the US govt. (Congress) is what brought us the financial meltdown....turn off CNN and look for the objective truths instead of the mass spin. The very ppl who have injured us are now in charge......and growing. Take a good look around so you can tell your kids what it was like before the dark ages...
TheBrutalTruth
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CrackerJax
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milton is a genius that most liberals call names because they cannot debate the issues with him. libertarians are too smart for the average replicrats. you just cant compete with our mental power.
i guess he said some truth you didnt like so you labeled him a racist right off the bat....how very typical of a liberal.
bicycle racer
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never said i was a liberal dont label me. if you put yourself in any group by choice how smart are you? if your gonna argue with me do so with substance that guy is no genius just someone who sees people as numbers in the way of gaining more capital for himself and his agendas. its people like him and naive supporters of those types that make a large % of the worlds population want america to fail no one likes getting stolen from unjustly basically people like that are immoral and feel if they succeed in there goals they have won regardless of what moral ineptitude was involved. its not a color thing your right they will fuck anyone in there way and smile while doing it. so do you defend colonialism and raping and pillaging of other nations??? oh and who decides whos better for it this rich white self serving egomaniac what a fucking joke.
CrackerJax
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That's the second time you have linked America with colonialism....wrong.
bicycle racer
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no not wrong we have military bases all over and have a history of being places we should not i dont make this stuff up as i go along. i see big business as an outreach of our continued interference for monetary gain in other countries were not fooling anyone. this is the new colonialism being used to control american interests.
CrackerJax
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All of our military bases established around the world are used to KEEP THE PEACE. You need to study up on the definition of Colonialism.
bicycle racer
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its not a matter of studying or knowledge or what either of us consider colonialism. its a matter of different viewpoints about americas current place in the modern world. i dont agree with alot of whats going on and feel the more 'cookie jars' americas hands are in the more issues were going to have in the future.