Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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inquisitive

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Made the cut tonight on a 16" tall bagseed plant, (she was getting too thin and tall for my liking).
Shooting for the 4 cola target, did it right according to the directions here. Need the plant to grow short due to lack of height in the space alloted. Will post update in a week or so.

Great thread Tito, thank you for sharing the wisdom.
 
Katatawnic

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Tuanis said:
Just wanted to know how long does it take for the plant to start growing again, I mean how long does it take to recover from the topping?
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I'm not Uncle Ben, but.... :lol: From my personal experience, they recover and start growing new shoots in 1-3 days.

1. First time I topped (using UB's method), the day I topped; back left and back right.
2. Four days later.
3. Two more topped plants, last Wednesday.
4. And, last Thursday.

You may not notice a huge difference, but it's there. And obviously the plants' health wasn't effected.... no "recovery time" at all, so to speak. :)
 

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Tuanis said:
Hello Uncle Ben,

Just wanted to know how long does it take for the plant to start growing again, I mean how long does it take to recover from the topping?

Thanks.
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inquisitive said:
Made the cut tonight on a 16" tall bagseed plant, (she was getting too thin and tall for my liking).
Shooting for the 4 cola target, did it right according to the directions here. Need the plant to grow short due to lack of height in the space alloted. Will post update in a week or so.

Great thread Tito, thank you for sharing the wisdom.
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Enjoy!

Katatawnic said:
I'm not Uncle Ben, but.... :lol: From my personal experience, they recover and start growing new shoots in 1-3 days.

1. First time I topped (using UB's method), the day I topped; back left and back right.
2. Four days later.
3. Two more topped plants, last Wednesday.
4. And, last Thursday.

You may not notice a huge difference, but it's there. And obviously the plants' health wasn't effected.... no "recovery time" at all, so to speak. :)
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Easy, eh? The "recovery period" is based on the vigor of your plants, which is based on basic culture like temp, food, water, light, etc. If you have vigorous growing plants they should show output within 18 hours. The only "recovery" is the redistribution of auxins to the new apical dominant leaders - your newly created 4 main colas.

Nice job,
Tio
 
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Wow, I can't believe I read the whole thing! It's the best read ever! You answered this a few dozen pages back, but I didn't quite get it. (I'm some dumb,but not plum dumb) Most of my plants are clones. I keep them in a 24 hour light period because the light keeps them at the right temp. In the past I didn't notice how off set the nodes were. Are you saying that clone nodes in a 24 hour light cycle will become even, given enough time?
 
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spartree said:
Wow, I can't believe I read the whole thing! It's the best read ever! You answered this a few dozen pages back, but I didn't quite get it. (I'm some dumb,but not plum dumb) Most of my plants are clones. I keep them in a 24 hour light period because the light keeps them at the right temp. In the past I didn't notice how off set the nodes were. Are you saying that clone nodes in a 24 hour light cycle will become even, given enough time?
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Glad to see you stuck it out on the read!

Being that you have alternate nodes, it sounds like they are in a state of flowering, even with the 24 hour light. I know when I reveg the nodes revert to a state of opposing nodes. You'll just have to play with it and give them a high N food to help kick them back into a veg mode.
 
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sorry if this questions has already been asked(probably) but its late and i have finals tomorrow. otherwise i would look thru the thread....in your opinion tio ben, does this increase yield? have you experimented 1vs.4? thanks!

-blaze one for the nationd$
 
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davemoney said:
sorry if this questions has already been asked(probably) but its late and i have finals tomorrow. otherwise i would look thru the thread....in your opinion tio ben, does this increase yield? have you experimented 1vs.4? thanks!

-blaze one for the nationd$
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All things considered, yes I do think it increases yield but then again I haven't run a control group against it. The colas seem only slightly less thick but the same length as a typical single main cola, and in the case of an outdoor plant that had 4 main colas a while back, they seemed to actually be greater in girth than a single would have been.
 
davemoney

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Uncle Ben said:
All things considered, yes I do think it increases yield but then again I haven't run a control group against it. The colas seem only slightly less thick but the same length as a typical single main cola, and in the case of an outdoor plant that had 4 main colas a while back, they seemed to actually be greater in girth than a single would have been.
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o yeah if i was growing outside whoooooo those 4 colas would be fatty!:hump:i cowered in doors w/250watt hps:shock:this one needs to be experimented with:joint:
 
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Haha I have just read this entire thread, and learnt more than when I asked question...thanks guys. Anyone had expierience with topping/fimming/super cropping Cirital Plus (Dinafem)? Really curious, I would like to apply this method to mine if it works. But since it is my first grow I would probably only do it to one plant, as my friend said to only do it on a few of them maximum so I can weigh up and see the benefits myself. Although from reading other peoples stories, it sounds very promising. I also understand it is very strain dependant...which is why I am asking if anyone has done Critical Plus and applied these methods...let me know. Thanks in advance!
 
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born2killspam

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Word of advice, unless you're ready to deal with mismatched sizes and extra indiviual training, you should apply the same procedures to all your plants.. Indoors thats just the best way to use light..
 
Roland

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Hahahaha GREAT POST !! .. Uncle Ben ..

I've been toppig my plants since 1971 !!

It works great !!

Thanks for the post and all the replies .. I'm new to the site and really appreciate you all sharing the info !!!

My next "grow" is already going better thanks to all the information and techniques and ingenuity I've found at ROLLITUP !

Thanks to all !!
 
bushmang

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hi uncle ben i was wondering if you could help me out for a sec. I have 40 clones that have been vegging for 5 days now and i was wondering when the perfect time would be to cut the top off? i read ur guide a few times and it says to cut as soon as there are some true nodes. i understand what u mean with true nodes but my question is how long should the nodes be in order to classify them as true nodes? the plants are about 6 inches tall and are starting to bush out. On most plants i have almost long enough nodes to make clones with them are the plants ready for chop chop? also the ones that have not grown the ndes yet should i wait to cut those or should i wait to cut the entire SOG togethere all at once or can i start cutting now?


iappreciate your help and ur discovery is fucking awsome mad respect
 
bushmang

bushmang

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hi uncle ben i was wondering if you could help me out for a sec. I have 40 clones that have been vegging for 5 days now and i was wondering when the perfect time would be to cut the top off? i read ur guide a few times and it says to cut as soon as there are some true nodes. i understand what u mean with true nodes but my question is how long should the nodes be in order to classify them as true nodes? the plants are about 6 inches tall and are starting to bush out. On most plants i have almost long enough nodes to make clones with them are the plants ready for chop chop? also the ones that have not grown the ndes yet should i wait to cut those or should i wait to cut the entire SOG togethere all at once or can i start cutting now?


iappreciate your help and ur discovery is fucking awsome mad respect
 
bushmang

bushmang

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hi uncle ben i was wondering if you could help me out for a sec. I have 40 clones that have been vegging for 5 days now and i was wondering when the perfect time would be to cut the top off? i read ur guide a few times and it says to cut as soon as there are some true nodes. i understand what u mean with true nodes but my question is how long should the nodes be in order to classify them as true nodes? the plants are about 6 inches tall and are starting to bush out. On most plants i have almost long enough nodes to make clones with them are the plants ready for chop chop? also the ones that have not grown the ndes yet should i wait to cut those or should i wait to cut the entire SOG togethere all at once or can i start cutting now?


iappreciate your help and ur discovery is fucking awsome mad respect
 
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