Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

BIGTIMEROOFERR

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hey nivekragah
im sure your next grow will be better
you sound like me i spend $1000 a month on medicaion not counting my wifes doc. and meds w/no insurance its ridiculous
i got 2 or 3 weeks left before i harvest
this is my first too
 

Senator

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Hey guys! First off, I gotta say I love getting on here to see what new info is in the thread from the last time I logged on. Thanks to everyone for all the questions and answers!!!!


I have a few questions myself going along with the co2 line we have been on lately:

1. When running co2 do you ever vent the room with fresh air? Do I need to plan a ventilation system at all?

2. If no ventilation is needed, are ozone generators the best option for odor control?


Also on a non-co2 note, how much air flow do you want running across 2 1000w lights? I plan to use the Sun Systems sealed/vented units.

Thanks!!!
 

StinkBud

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1. When running co2 do you ever vent the room with fresh air? Do I need to plan a ventilation system at all?
If you have A/C or a dehumidifier you won't need much ventilation. I have my fan set to vent if my temp goes over 85 degrees or humidity goes over 60.

With my dehumidifier the humidity stays around 45-50% so the fan never kicks on unless the water is full.

I'm going to have to bust out the A/C soon though. Spring is here!!!

2. If no ventilation is needed, are ozone generators the best option for odor control?

Ozone generator is always a great option for odor control. Don't get one of those cheap ones though.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't ozone generators also help remove spores from the air?

Also on a non-co2 note, how much air flow do you want running across 2 1000w lights? I plan to use the Sun Systems sealed/vented units.
I'm running a 440CFM fan for my two lights.

Good luck bro!
 

StinkBud

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thanks bro, and when i buy my wife somthing nice with the cash i save i will let her know its because i found this site.
One of the many benefits of this thread! I'm glad I can help you and your wife.:-P

I wish I could hook up all the Stinkbuddies with clones from my quiver. Genetics are everything!
 

Senator

Active Member
Thanks for the reply Stink!

The model I am looking at is the Uvonair Jr.:
http://www.gchydro.com/detail.asp?product_id=xuvonair

Unfortunately I dont have any experience with ozone and wouldnt know a good one from a bad one. Anyone here have any experience with this brand?

Also, I wanted to ask if you still recommend the portable ac unit you mentioned back a few hundred pages? If so, do you still have a link to it. Would I need an additional dehumidifier on top of this unit?

Finally, what PPM and TPS meters do you recommend?

I am sorry for the barrage of questions but as I get closer to starting things, more things are coming to mind.


Thanks again!!
 

repvip

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I have some experience with ozone..

First I wanted to say that there has been some journal quality articles posted recently about the long-term ill effects of ozone exposure past a threshold. This data is from a large-scale study looking at the effects of ozone exposure over long-term... which can cause respiratory problems. You definitely don't want to be breathing in large amounts of this stuff.

In California, for example, some industrial grade ozone generators have been taken off the market (for residential use) and are only available to people who use them for a living.

StinkBud you are right--ozone can and will kill mold spores. In fact, ozone kills just about everything--especially small stuff. Flood/restoration people use it to treat crawlspaces to elimintate actively growing mold.

That being sad--you would not want to use a large ozone generator in your flower room as it can damage your plants, and if any of you have seen pics I've posted--it will oxidize your mylar. The very best way is to vent/exhaust to a separate room that has the ozoneator running, then vent from that wherever (attic...)

Ok. Most Ozone generators are based on how much Ozone they produce per hour. That is the best way to judge how they will work--some are advertised that they will "clean such and such amount of square feet" well, doesn't really matter if they don't produce enough ozone...

CAP makes a couple of good units:
Cap Ozone Jr 200mg ozone/hr
Cap OZN-1 1000mg ozone/hr

I have both. You could get away with the Ozone-JR in your flower room. I've done it--plants aren't affected. I would recommend the OZN-1 as it is only like $50 more and way more powerful, but not for your flower room.

Finally, there are some good units on Ebay that use a solid state ceramic plate (the kind that produce TONS of ozone and are restricted in california) you can still buy them--they will run a few hundred and can produce amounts like 16,000mg/hr. I have an industrial one that I use occassionally for an hour or two when I am expecting company. Look for ozone blaster or maxblaster..

Between the Cap OZN-1 running continuously and the CAP carbon filter that exhausts during the off cycle I can't smell a thing!!

edit: let me know if any of this doesn't make sense--sometimes I leave out important things on accident :grin:
 

repvip

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You know how I've had that LED going for about 7 days now?

Smart me forgot to switch the timer back and it's been running 24/7 since I installed it!

hmmmm... no wonder I ran out of CO2 super fast (photosensor) and have a couple hermies!

Any idea how this will affect the plants?

The 1000w HPS was 12/12. I have 4 sets of flower units at 1,3,5 and 7 weeks flower.

recycle timers:
CAP ART-DNe
or
CAP NFT-1e 1-Minute ON 4-Minutes OFF Preset Recycle Timer
 

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SOG

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I have some experience with ozone..
interesting info rep
i got the industrial Big Blue 12" Ozone Gen. 5 x UV bulbs
ill be installing it inline; on the main 12" exhaust line, somewhere after the fan
it will come on same time as the exhaust fan kicks in
and will exhaust outside my attic, how can that affect ones health?
the tube are completely enclosed inside the ducts
can you post some links to these articles

Thanks
SoG
 

repvip

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interesting info rep
i got the industrial Big Blue 12" Ozone Gen. 5 x UV bulbs
ill be installing it inline; on the main 12" exhaust line, somewhere after the fan
it will come on same time as the exhaust fan kicks in
and will exhaust outside my attic, how can that affect ones health?
the tube are completely enclosed inside the ducts
can you post some links to these articles

Thanks
SoG
Sure

The EPA has updated a lot of info recently and has plenty of juicy tidbits
www.epa.gov/ozone/

Time article:
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1722343,00.html

And the bad data the was released very recently about respiratory problems:
http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2009/03/11_ozone.shtml

Keep in mind this study was based on long-term exposure to higher-than-normal levels of ozone (such as you would get in large/dirty cities)

If you are exhausting to the attic or outside I would not be concerned. Ozone has a distinct smell--you should be able to tell if you are being exposed to excessive amounts...

I actually have the CAP OZN-1 on 24/7 downstairs (basement---some vents to outside) and feel pretty safe knowing that most of it escapes outside. It's not going to travel through walls :mrgreen:

Basically I just wanted to throw the warning out there... because I've actually seen people using industral ozone generators in the same room they were working in... it's extremely bad for you in those high concentrations and will make you sick. So... don't be dumb!

You've smelled ozone during/after lightning rain storm... it smells really fresh.

Everyone has heard about free radicals being bad for you? Ozone will break down to oxygen and oxygen free radicals... which you don't want in your lungs..

Pete and repeat eh? I'm not trying to scare anyone--just be aware.
 

MyPC8MyBrain

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Stinkbud,
I know you are running 3 units in a 3 week rotation with the 2 1000 watt HPS's .

Do you think 2 1000's would provide enough coverage if I was to have 4 units in flower ?

Same question for Dirthawk... I know you're running 4 600's. Would that be the way to go with 4 flowering units ?

I would prefer the 2 1000's due to less ducting and wiring.

Thanks !
 

StinkBud

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Stinkbud,
I know you are running 3 units in a 3 week rotation with the 2 1000 watt HPS's .

Do you think 2 1000's would provide enough coverage if I was to have 4 units in flower ?

Same question for Dirthawk... I know you're running 4 600's. Would that be the way to go with 4 flowering units ?

I would prefer the 2 1000's due to less ducting and wiring.

Thanks !
4 lights are the only way to go. My outside plants just don't receive enough light because the other plants block all the light.

I'm actually thinking about scaling down some. My last harvest was so big I don't know what to do with all the bud.

My patients need only so much medicine and I'm trying to smoke the rest but I just can't do it.:eyesmoke:

When I first started I was harvesting 12oz. That jumped to 16oz. after I added CO2. My last harvest was 27oz and the next one will be even bigger! WTF!

I can only have so many patients by state law and both me and my wife;-) are maxed out right now. Each patient of mine uses about 2oz a month or less. Needless to say the bud is starting to build up.

Anyone want some free bud?
 

BIGTIMEROOFERR

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dam stink
i got to load up and move to your neck of the woods
the only thing i dont think i could handle the cold it gets cold here but not your cold and it NEVER snows
 

Senator

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Thanks for the info Rep! I guess I need to back up and reconsider my ideas on Ozone generators.

Essentially, I was thinking if I could get by with not venting the room at all, I could cut out fan costs and keep all my co2 in the room till it was used. Heat and humidity would be ran off a Sentinel greenhouse controller and kept in check by the AC unit and dehumidifier. With this plan in mind, do I NEED to vent the room? If i dont, what would you suggest for odor control?

Also, hate to repeat but I know how things can get lost in the mix after they go back a page or two. My additional questions are:

1. Is the AC unit mentioned back earlier in the thread still considered the best option? If so, do any of you have a link? (cant recall where those posts fell)

2. Should I get a dedicated dehumidifier or will the AC unit cover my needs? If I need another, any recommendations?

3. What PPM meters do you guys recommend? I want to buy a good one to start with.


Thanks again for all the help!
 

Saladsmokin

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is it normal for the roots in the flower system to get brownish from the nutes? i jus flushed the roots wit luke warm water nd it all came off the roots. thanks..
 
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