My highest reccomendation for this inexpensive unit,ZERO SMELL & cheap.

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born2killspam

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A flyback from a tv/monitor is essentially a small one.. Also, larger electrode separation will essentially make the output smaller since less current flows.. You can calculate the maximum possible output by measuring the current.. It likely won't be producing anywhere close to 100% efficiency though, especially if its working in normal air that is 73% N..
You could 'ultra jimmy-rig' with a flyback just by popping the suction cup positive lead, and cutting the wires at the back of the crt to find the ground return or any other suitable return wire from that bunch.. With a tad of electronics know how you can make a simple 555 driver circuit with the horizontal output MOSFET that comes with the tv/monitor that is much much much sleeker and safer than leaving insanely dangerous live electronics exposed..
CRT DEVICES ARE DANGEROUS EVEN WHEN UNPLUGGED because they contain HV capacitors that just aren't needed to drive a flyback to create O3..
And thats not even mentioning the implosion risk of the CRT.. Eye protection is highly suggested.. I usually dress myself up like I'm going ski-dooing to protect me from glass shards in the case of accidents if I'm doing anything that could accidentally damage the tube..
The tube itself is a dangerous HV capacitor that can spontaneously build up charge after being properly discharged.. Thats very rarely dangerous, but in a way that is the fact that makes it more dangerous when it does occur.. I permenantly short the DAG after removing the suction cup..
 
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dwarf

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If I had my grow in a closet and put this ozone generator in my apartment would me, my roommates, or my pet be in danger because of the ozone?
 
Eharmony420

Eharmony420

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get the plug in modelfo your cars cigarette lighter. It is 30 dollars or so. Says it works. Good for your car maybe good for your small cfl cab. Idk lol, cool.
 
panhead

panhead

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joseaf said:
Please post diagrams or photos of how you install the ozone generator in the grow area or the duct.
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Its a no go on the photos on the generator within the ducts,its too hard to get too.

Its pretty simple to put in a duct,the end of the duct that the exhaust fan will mount to you simply put the generator in the duct before mounting the fan on the end of the duct.
 
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joseaf

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panhead said:
Its a no go on the photos on the generator within the ducts,its too hard to get too.

Its pretty simple to put in a duct,the end of the duct that the exhaust fan will mount to you simply put the generator in the duct before mounting the fan on the end of the duct.
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Can the ozone unit run 24 hours when in the duct?

Vented Hood ----ozone unit----exhuast fan ---actic

---- = duct work
 
panhead

panhead

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joseaf said:
Can the ozone unit run 24 hours when in the duct?

Vented Hood ----ozone unit----exhuast fan ---actic

---- = duct work
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Yes they can,these can be ran 24/7 with no issues from heat,the only thing i reccomend is after you finish a grow to take out the generator from its placement in the duct & wipe the bulb down with a clean cloth to assure maximum ozone production,other than that they are maintainance free.
 
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TomGreenThumb

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I just purchased this exact model from the same shop you recommended. The thing is pretty amazing. I have it on a timer to come on and off every other 15 minutes which I find is just enough. You can totally tell when its running too long as the smell of ozone isnt all that appealing at high doses lol but it is better then having odors running through your house.
 
panhead

panhead

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TomGreenThumb said:
I just purchased this exact model from the same shop you recommended. The thing is pretty amazing. I have it on a timer to come on and off every other 15 minutes which I find is just enough. You can totally tell when its running too long as the smell of ozone isnt all that appealing at high doses lol but it is better then having odors running through your house.
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Hmmm,you might end up with a very short life span from the uv bulb if your running 15 minute cycles,your cycles are turning the bulb on & off 96 times per every 24 hours.
 
AJ Toker

AJ Toker

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Do you just mount them where the vented air is being dumped or mount it in the ducts? And are they safe fir use around humans and animals?
 
panhead

panhead

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AJ Toker said:
Do you just mount them where the vented air is being dumped or mount it in the ducts? And are they safe fir use around humans and animals?
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Before you buy any ozone generator you should research them,not only so you'll have a decent understanding of the health risks but so you can make an informed decision as to what type & size generator is best for yuour needs.

Ozone is not safe for people or animals,its not safe for plants either,when used properly its harmless as milk but when errors are made in its application the symptoms can range from a mild sore throat to full blown cancer,i dont want to freak you out with the cancer bit & i am not an ozone expert,these are symptoms that i have read about & the cancer is obviously a worst case scenario but its what ive read durring my research of the subject.

I vent the dirty air from my room using standard 6 inch duct pipe with a ozone generator inside the vent,then the treated air is dumped into another room that used to be an old closet,once the air is in that room its shock treated with another ozone generator for 15 minutes,after that the air is vented again through my home made carbon filters & through another exhaust pipe leading right out of the roof.
 
AJ Toker

AJ Toker

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when my setup is completly done I will vent out a vent in my roof. My idea was to build a 2'x4' box in the attic, sealed, with an ionizer in it. I'll pump the air into the box and have the box connected to the roof vent. That way I won't poison my cats, my wife, or myself. I'll also keep a carbon filter on the ducts.
 
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born2killspam

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Couple point.. You want the O3 generator at the beginning of the exhaust system.. Just far enough in that you're safe from major blow back.. Ozone effect'veness is ALL about effectively mixing the air before release.. The box isn't a bad idea though since it could act as a mixing baffle of sorts..
Also, ozone will react in a carbon filter C + 2 O3 -> CO2+ 2 O2.. This will deplete your filter.. (Not that I think you'd need a filter in front of O3 treated exhaust at roof level..)
 
panhead

panhead

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AJ Toker said:
when my setup is completly done I will vent out a vent in my roof. My idea was to build a 2'x4' box in the attic, sealed, with an ionizer in it. I'll pump the air into the box and have the box connected to the roof vent. That way I won't poison my cats, my wife, or myself. I'll also keep a carbon filter on the ducts.
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Sounds like a good plan to me,you surely want to use the ozone in tandem with carbon filtering if you want to decrease the ozone smell,all it would taker would be for a cop to walk by & smell that very distinct smell of a mig welder going & he'd know right off it was ozone for a grow op.

I make my own carbon filters so the cost of refilling them with fresh carbon is less than $5 a filter but the ozone does degrade carbon much faster than straight exhaust air so you'll want to keep an eye on that as well.
 
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born2killspam

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If he's exhausting the O3 at roof level, and its noticable then he's just producing way too much.. And a negatively charged mesh at the end can help destroy any left over O3..
 
panhead

panhead

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born2killspam said:
If he's exhausting the O3 at roof level, and its noticable then he's just producing way too much.. And a negatively charged mesh at the end can help destroy any left over O3..
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The generator he has is not adjustable in output.

Please explain what you mean by a negatively charged mesh,i have no clue what that is but i know it sounds interesting,the excess ozone odor is a worry that i have & i'd love to be able to uncork the exhaust by removing the carbon filter & replacing it with some kind of mesh.

Please explain what this mesh is & how to i go about making the mesh or ordering it pre made..
 
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born2killspam

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Basically ozone is created at the anode (positive terminal) of HV, and electron sources such as negatively charged surfaces tend to undo its creation.. The electrons themselves reduce the O3 to oxygen.. Instead of waiting for the O3 to oxodize some airborne particle to reduce itself..
 
zigzag24

zigzag24

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I used to work around high voltage electric treaters that produced ozone, and it very important not to expose yourself to very much. It is hazardous and I have seen it eat the paint off of the treater cabinets and corrode metal super fast. Ironically we filtered the exhaust of these treaters with a form of charcoal. I do not doubt the odor eliminating performance of an ozone generator, I just wanted to reiderate the importance of proper installation and awarness of the hazard. peace
 
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