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Roger A. Shrubber

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I wonder what Nato will do if faced with the reality of a Russian chemical attack. I know there are bold-sounding doctrines in place, but I wonder what we will do.
is that two separate questions? while we're part of NATO, we seem to be a mostly independent part, so NATO could have one response, and the US could have another, which is what i expect to happen. i believe Biden would send men into russia with sufficient provocation, but NATO never, ever will, no matter the provocation. NATO seems to be led by pacifist who are happy playing with toys that will never see real use. they parade, and park weapons...and...nothing...else...
so my best guess is that the US would intervene independently while NATO makes up more excuses to do fuck all...of course, then they would call it a joint mission and claim some credit.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
is that two separate questions? while we're part of NATO, we seem to be a mostly independent part, so NATO could have one response, and the US could have another, which is what i expect to happen. i believe Biden would send men into russia with sufficient provocation, but NATO never, ever will, no matter the provocation. NATO seems to be led by pacifist who are happy playing with toys that will never see real use. they parade, and park weapons...and...nothing...else...
so my best guess is that the US would intervene independently while NATO makes up more excuses to do fuck all...of course, then they would call it a joint mission and claim some credit.
In that instance, I expect us to operate entirely as a component of Nato. That would be no time for US to operate outside of consensus.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I provisionally disagree a whole lot. Nato has never been really put to the test.
It was in Afghanistan when America evoked article 5 and allies responded. It was a wise move pulling out of the place, it would be the last place the Europeans would want to be with Russia on the march and a hot war on their doorstep.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Winter is here and these guys are not ready for it, nor are they equipped, trained or lead properly for modern combat. They aren't even organized into proper units and have no leaders, just thrown into trenches and repeatedly herded like cattle into artillery fire and machine guns with frontal attacks. Mercenaries or experienced troops are further back to shoot them if they should retreat, and their snipers are aiming for them, more than the enemy, if they should try to surrender.

Voting and fighting to make it count, along with the rule of law is a lot easier boys, liberal democracy is the only way forward, tyrants lead to this shit.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I provisionally disagree a whole lot. Nato has never been really put to the test.
hey, i don't feel the need for vindication...i would be happy to be wrong.
but their current actions, the statements they have made all along, their reaction to several events...all make me doubtful of their efficacy.
they have very good equipment, but i have serious doubts about their resolve to use it under provocation.
good thing the Ukrainians seem capable of beating the fuck out of russia without any more help than they're already getting.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
hey, i don't feel the need for vindication...i would be happy to be wrong.
but their current actions, the statements they have made all along, their reaction to several events...all make me doubtful of their efficacy.
they have very good equipment, but i have serious doubts about their resolve to use it under provocation.
good thing the Ukrainians seem capable of beating the fuck out of russia without any more help than they're already getting.
I hope the premise does not get tested.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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That brought down the Roman empire! Czar Vlad is the heir of Ceasar and some of his heirs were deadbeats too. Just kill them faster and tell them the check is in the mail, problem solved, no man no problem, Stalin used to say.


Russia failed to pay their soldiers
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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General explains how Ukraine's plan to retake Crimea will collapse Russia

1,695 views Nov 24, 2022
"Frankly, the Russian Federation could come apart at the seams over the next maybe five years or so." Ukraine's upcoming Crimean offensive could spell the end of the Russian federation, Former Supreme Allied Commander General Richard Shirreff tells #timesradio
 

DIY-HP-LED

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CSTO is on the decline. Armenia is ready to leave, and Kazakhstan escapes the Russian influence

8,775 views Nov 24, 2022
Why the Russian 'NATO' – CSTO, does not work? Ukraine's new budget for 2023. We require 38 billion dollars to pay the social obligations for the budget sector workers. Ukraine will strongly depend on the international macro-financial support in 2023. The opinions of European politicians during and after the recognition of Russia as a country sponsoring terrorism in the new episdoe of the Daily Wrap-Up series.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Go ahead and execute the whole national soccer team and see how that works out for the religious fanatics when they meet soccer fanatics on the streets! They better be careful with this guy or national sports heroes could fall in line behind him, including the national team, who let their feelings be known already in public.

any government that will arrest you for criticizing it, needs to be ousted and replaced with non fascists.
 
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