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doublejj

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The State Duma responded to information about the mobilization of cars of Russians
The Lower House does not rule out that the situation may change
Deputies of the State Duma are not discussing the possible seizure of personal vehicles of Russians for the needs of a special operation. Georgy Karlov, a member of the State Duma Committee on Defense, told Podyom that information about the mobilization of vehicles is nothing more than “rumors, word of mouth and other misunderstandings.” According to him, "nonsense" of this kind is not discussed in the offices of the Lower Chamber, but Karlov does not rule out that the situation may change.

“And everything that goes around is rumors, word of mouth and other misunderstandings. There is no such nonsense within the walls of the Duma, at least not yet. There are no conditions, no need for this, and there is no talk about this either within the Defense Committee or in the State Duma as a whole. Let them sleep peacefully, drive, move, do everything in accordance with the law,” Karlov said.

Earlier it was reported that as part of the mobilization for the needs of the army, not only the population, but also personal cars of citizens can be involved. The law "On mobilization training and mobilization in the Russian Federation" lists an extensive list of vehicles of categories M1G, N1G (off-road vehicles and buses) suitable for the military, from Chevrolet Niva and Nissan X-Trail SUVs to UAZs and GAZs.
https://motor.ru/news/cars-sales-30-09-2022.htm?utm_source=readmoreintopic&utm_medium=readmoreoutoftopic3&utm_campaign=analytics
In addition, some Russian regions began to publish orders "On the announcement of mobilization", which spelled out, among other things, the procedure for the departure of citizens. In particular, in Tatarstan and Dagestan, citizens must deliver vehicles for registration, including road construction and lifting vehicles, to military registration and enlistment offices. As BFM clarifies , all cars do not need to be transported: only equipment that can potentially be useful in wartime is taken into account.
I read there is something like 100,000 cars abandoned at the border by deserters...
 

Fogdog

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Yep, it isn't, the weird one below it with the screw in breach was though, second biggest. They are like nukes, it was found there is an optimal size and it's much smaller than the biggest thing you can throw.
Also like nukes, the one who touches it off has to take special precautions. The article you posted said one canon was set off by touching a mile long stretch of black powder in order to protect the bodies and hearing of the operators. Others provided a barrel full of water for the operator to jump into. I wonder how long it took them to figure that out.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Ukrainians are very cautious to not overextend beyond their support infrastructure. They make sure they can hold the newly liberated territory before moving on. I'm sure they are receiving tactical help from US tacticians.
As I mentioned, that's what the big reserves and territorials are for, and I'll bet it's a lot faster and easier to secure your own land. They can move in behind to man the check points and help with logistics, the tasks are endless, and they multiply the combat power of the regular army. I think they might have anticipated this by now, judging by the performance of the Russians.
 

doublejj

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Ukraine's elite 'Shaman' special forces 'always shoot Russians in the balls'
A fighter from Ukraine’s elite 10th Special Forces Detachment – known as the Shaman battalion for their “supernatural” ability to infiltrate enemy position undetected – revealed how he always aims his gun at his opponents groin.
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Bagginski

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The State Duma responded to information about the mobilization of cars of Russians
The Lower House does not rule out that the situation may change
Deputies of the State Duma are not discussing the possible seizure of personal vehicles of Russians for the needs of a special operation. Georgy Karlov, a member of the State Duma Committee on Defense, told Podyom that information about the mobilization of vehicles is nothing more than “rumors, word of mouth and other misunderstandings.” According to him, "nonsense" of this kind is not discussed in the offices of the Lower Chamber, but Karlov does not rule out that the situation may change.

“And everything that goes around is rumors, word of mouth and other misunderstandings. There is no such nonsense within the walls of the Duma, at least not yet. There are no conditions, no need for this, and there is no talk about this either within the Defense Committee or in the State Duma as a whole. Let them sleep peacefully, drive, move, do everything in accordance with the law,” Karlov said.

Earlier it was reported that as part of the mobilization for the needs of the army, not only the population, but also personal cars of citizens can be involved. The law "On mobilization training and mobilization in the Russian Federation" lists an extensive list of vehicles of categories M1G, N1G (off-road vehicles and buses) suitable for the military, from Chevrolet Niva and Nissan X-Trail SUVs to UAZs and GAZs.
https://motor.ru/news/cars-sales-30-09-2022.htm?utm_source=readmoreintopic&utm_medium=readmoreoutoftopic3&utm_campaign=analytics
In addition, some Russian regions began to publish orders "On the announcement of mobilization", which spelled out, among other things, the procedure for the departure of citizens. In particular, in Tatarstan and Dagestan, citizens must deliver vehicles for registration, including road construction and lifting vehicles, to military registration and enlistment offices. As BFM clarifies , all cars do not need to be transported: only equipment that can potentially be useful in wartime is taken into account.
They are really tightening the screws
 

Bagginski

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Well, tactical situations @ ground, just to start with, and overall strategic focus. UK has been pushing broadly in the south/southeast, and forces that would have made that strike might have been involved in the penetration & disruption of Kharkiv oblast; the southern strategy may have been to pin in place & reduce red team, induce panic, spark mutinies, sabotage, mass surrenders…while Russia got hit HARD in the north.

That would be a completely reasonable strategy IMO, and if it were, I’d have to rate it a remarkable success so far.

For another, the conflict was already two theaters, Kharkiv and Kherson; Kherson’s been the far more resilient target, and they may have chosen not to take an risky opportunistic stab, but to remain with the plan (whatever that might be.

And since I seem to be on a roll, maybe too target-rich an environment. Strong cases could be made for a full-out multilayered special forces assault on Zaporizhzhia, a drive to take Crimea’s water faucet; not going to think about it too hard, not doing this to tweak you. Just the way my brain works, I think
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Well, tactical situations @ ground, just to start with, and overall strategic focus. UK has been pushing broadly in the south/southeast, and forces that would have made that strike might have been involved in the penetration & disruption of Kharkiv oblast; the southern strategy may have been to pin in place & reduce red team, induce panic, spark mutinies, sabotage, mass surrenders…while Russia got hit HARD in the north.

That would be a completely reasonable strategy IMO, and if it were, I’d have to rate it a remarkable success so far.

For another, the conflict was already two theaters, Kharkiv and Kherson; Kherson’s been the far more resilient target, and they may have chosen not to take an risky opportunistic stab, but to remain with the plan (whatever that might be.

And since I seem to be on a roll, maybe too target-rich an environment. Strong cases could be made for a full-out multilayered special forces assault on Zaporizhzhia, a drive to take Crimea’s water faucet; not going to think about it too hard, not doing this to tweak you. Just the way my brain works, I think
Okay. The formulation you chose suggested something different to me.

That said, I agree. Absent specific tactical information (which I leave to those engaged) all we can do is speculate.
 

Fogdog

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Some red meat for you guys:


It's a different veiwpoint. Chomsky says the US is preventing Ukraine and Russia from reaching a settlement and because of that, we are making global warming worse. (or something like that). He also says that the people of Europe (especially France and Germany) oppose intervention in the Russo-Ukraine war. Also that UK is a lackey of the US. Prashad echoes Chomsky's claim that in March, Russia and Ukraine had reached an acceptable settlement but US said no. He goes on to say the US is blocking negotiations. And, arms spending is $2 T, while the UN budget is $2B. That might be true but I don't know what point he's making.

Anyway, the link provides a good snapshot of what @Lucky Luke will be saying over the next week or so.
 
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doublejj

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Some red meat for you guys:


It's a different veiwpoint. Chomsky says the US is preventing Ukraine and Russia from reaching a settlement and because of that, we are making global warming worse. (or something like that). He also says that the people of Europe (especially France and Germany) oppose intervention in the Russo-Ukraine war. Also that UK is a lackey of the US. Prashad echoes Chomsky's claim that in March, Russia and Ukraine had reached an acceptable settlement but US said no. He goes on to say the US is blocking negotiations. And, arms spending is $2 T, while the UN budget is $2B. That might be true but I don't know what point he's making.

Anyway, the link provides a good snapshot of what @Lucky Luke will be saying over the next week or so.
All russia has to do it leave Ukraine......war would be over.
 
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