DIY-HP-LED
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I guess they need to work on the encrypted radio links with their drones, this can be repeated and is a cheap way to gather drones, upgrade the electronics though!
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DIY-HP-LED
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The Ukrainians are on a roll and the Russians are reeling, they've been reduced enough, the western weapons have arrived, the men are trained and it's time to rock the Russians. I think the news blackout request was to increase the Russian's paranoia and confusion, those fast light units are swarming their rear areas and causing chaos. A dozen men with Javelins or setting up ambushes and IEDs can stop or slow down Russian columns racing to a vital point in a war of maneuver, catching them on the road and vulnerable. Once they break through the defenses with tanks and artillery, the armored trucks and Humvees pour through and fan out, avoiding enemy concentrations to get to their rear. They operate mostly at night I imagine, but I suppose it depends on the situation. They can quickly exploit breakthroughs in this kind of war, if the Russians tried it, the old farts in the Ukrainian rear manning check points would kill them.
cannabineer
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It makes sense to me. The bloggers provide better and quicker intel than I believe Russian official assets do. That aids and abets Russian tactical response well enough to matter. The fog of war has some advantages, such as fewer Ukrainian casualties.
That is sufficient reason.
DIY-HP-LED
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The generals at the Pentagon and NATO headquarters must be looking at their electronic maps of the action in Ukraine like football fans during a playoff game! Everyone trained for this fight and the Ukrainians are fighting it for us, using some of our weapons and tactics, but mostly soviet stuff similar to what the Russians have. If anything, the western weapons just leveled the playing field, it was the tactics, leadership, organization and moral that made the most difference.
cannabineer
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A major factor is that Russian corruption generated a wide gap between on-record and actual capability.
The Ukrainian such gap is proving smaller.
BudmanTX
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i can see that...especially considering Svatove op coming
DIY-HP-LED
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There is a cultural difference too, especially in the military and the way it is organized and trained, the constant threat they were under for 8 years created a low tolerance for corruption with military veterans of that low level war and almost 400K passed through the western training and most are in the reserves. This war demonstrates the harm corruption does to civil and military organizations, or should, the Ukrainians speak of it constantly among the Russians and are learning the lesson the best.
DIY-HP-LED
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Considering their tactics of fanning out small fast groups of special forces into the enemy rear to cause confusion and impede movements, it might be wise. These guys could show up anywhere in the Russian rear, there are vast distances few Russian forces and they know where every one of them is thanks to drones and satellites. Drones operate below cloud cover most of the time and American satellites can see through them with radar sats. Lack of information and the enemy popping up in their rear can cause panic among troops with poor morale and largely dead leadership, poor as it is.
DIY-HP-LED
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Meant to confuse the enemy, or a new offensive drive to the Sea of Azov? I thought they had a news blackout! 
Deception and misdirection are things the Ukrainians have been known to use!
Deception and misdirection are things the Ukrainians have been known to use!
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doublejj
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DIY-HP-LED
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The Betsy Ross's of Ukraine will be busy, so will the Chinese factories!
DIY-HP-LED
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WTF has a Twitter handle like this? Well, jenius, I agree about the US and Ukraine don't want peace part, they want to kick Vlad's ass back to Russia. Another bot, Russian troll or a Donald. They are making hay outta Elon's latest brain fart of a Tweet, this will cost him car sales FFS! The Ukrainian ambassador to Germany told him to "FUCK OFF"!
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Ukrainian diplomat responds to Musk’s peace proposal: ‘f— off’
Ukrainian diplomat Andriy Melnyk told billionaire Elon Musk to “f— off” after the SpaceX and Tesla CEO proposed Ukraine give up some territory and hold new elections in contested regions to end the war with Russia.
Musk tweeted out a poll on Monday asking respondents to weigh in on his proposal to end the war: redoing elections of annexed region under United Nations supervision, giving up the Crimean peninsula to Russia and maintaining Ukraine as a neutral country between Russia and the West.
“This is highly likely to be the outcome in the end – just a question of how many die before then,” Musk wrote. “Also worth noting that a possible, albeit unlikely, outcome from this conflict is nuclear war.”
Melnyk responded shortly after: “F– off is my very diplomatic reply to you.”
The Ukrainian was his country’s ambassador to Germany until the end of September.
Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelensky in July announced he would recall Melnyk at the end of September after the then-ambassador came into conflict with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and other German leaders. Melnyk accused the Germans of having close ties to Russia.
Melnyk reportedly called Scholz an “offended liver sausage” before he left his post, according to DW News, which is the equivalent of deeming someone a “snowflake.”
Musk has provided Starlink satellite service as a way for Ukraine to increase its internet connectivity. Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelensky said he was “grateful” for Musk taking that action.
The world’s richest man also challenged Russian President Vladimir Putin to “single combat” over the spring.
Russia annexed four territories in eastern Ukraine last week in elections that are widely considered shams and which Putin celebrated over the weekend. Russia also continues to hold the Crimean Peninsula, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014 after an invasion.
thehill.com
Ukrainian diplomat Andriy Melnyk told billionaire Elon Musk to “f— off” after the SpaceX and Tesla CEO proposed Ukraine give up some territory and hold new elections in contested regions to end the war with Russia.
Musk tweeted out a poll on Monday asking respondents to weigh in on his proposal to end the war: redoing elections of annexed region under United Nations supervision, giving up the Crimean peninsula to Russia and maintaining Ukraine as a neutral country between Russia and the West.
“This is highly likely to be the outcome in the end – just a question of how many die before then,” Musk wrote. “Also worth noting that a possible, albeit unlikely, outcome from this conflict is nuclear war.”
Melnyk responded shortly after: “F– off is my very diplomatic reply to you.”
The Ukrainian was his country’s ambassador to Germany until the end of September.
Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelensky in July announced he would recall Melnyk at the end of September after the then-ambassador came into conflict with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and other German leaders. Melnyk accused the Germans of having close ties to Russia.
Melnyk reportedly called Scholz an “offended liver sausage” before he left his post, according to DW News, which is the equivalent of deeming someone a “snowflake.”
Musk has provided Starlink satellite service as a way for Ukraine to increase its internet connectivity. Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelensky said he was “grateful” for Musk taking that action.
The world’s richest man also challenged Russian President Vladimir Putin to “single combat” over the spring.
Russia annexed four territories in eastern Ukraine last week in elections that are widely considered shams and which Putin celebrated over the weekend. Russia also continues to hold the Crimean Peninsula, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014 after an invasion.
Ukrainian diplomat responds to Musk’s peace proposal: ‘f— off’
Ukrainian diplomat Andriy Melnyk told billionaire Elon Musk to “f— off” after the SpaceX and Tesla CEO proposed Ukraine give up some territory and hold new elections in contested …
thehill.com
cannabineer
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DIY-HP-LED
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He is taking a Helluva roasting on social media, his computer must be glowing with the heat!Ukrainian diplomat responds to Musk’s peace proposal: ‘f— off’
Ukrainian diplomat Andriy Melnyk told billionaire Elon Musk to “f— off” after the SpaceX and Tesla CEO proposed Ukraine give up some territory and hold new elections in contested regions to end the war with Russia.
Musk tweeted out a poll on Monday asking respondents to weigh in on his proposal to end the war: redoing elections of annexed region under United Nations supervision, giving up the Crimean peninsula to Russia and maintaining Ukraine as a neutral country between Russia and the West.
“This is highly likely to be the outcome in the end – just a question of how many die before then,” Musk wrote. “Also worth noting that a possible, albeit unlikely, outcome from this conflict is nuclear war.”
Melnyk responded shortly after: “F– off is my very diplomatic reply to you.”
The Ukrainian was his country’s ambassador to Germany until the end of September.
Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelensky in July announced he would recall Melnyk at the end of September after the then-ambassador came into conflict with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and other German leaders. Melnyk accused the Germans of having close ties to Russia.
Melnyk reportedly called Scholz an “offended liver sausage” before he left his post, according to DW News, which is the equivalent of deeming someone a “snowflake.”
Musk has provided Starlink satellite service as a way for Ukraine to increase its internet connectivity. Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelensky said he was “grateful” for Musk taking that action.
The world’s richest man also challenged Russian President Vladimir Putin to “single combat” over the spring.
Russia annexed four territories in eastern Ukraine last week in elections that are widely considered shams and which Putin celebrated over the weekend. Russia also continues to hold the Crimean Peninsula, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014 after an invasion.
Ukrainian diplomat responds to Musk’s peace proposal: ‘f— off’
Ukrainian diplomat Andriy Melnyk told billionaire Elon Musk to “f— off” after the SpaceX and Tesla CEO proposed Ukraine give up some territory and hold new elections in contested …
DIY-HP-LED
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"The Pressure On Putin Grows," As Ukrainian Fighters Push Deeper Into Russian-Controlled Areas
94,938 views Oct 3, 2022 Ukrainian fighters push deeper into Russian-controlled areas in the east, threatening to cut off Russian forces from supply lines and potentially deal another costly defeat to President Vladimir Putin. This comes just after Vladimir Putin announced Russia's illegal annexation of four partially occupied Ukrainian regions: Donetsk and Luhansk in the east, and Kherson and Zaporizhzhia in the south. Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Admiral James Stavridis, and President of the Council on Foreign Relations, Richard Haass, join the conversation.
DIY-HP-LED
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Meet the meat. Ukraine wants longer range missiles and will give Uncle Sam a target list and promise not to hit anything not on it. I'm wondering if the rail bridges inside Russia on the 10 rail routes into Ukraine from Russia are on that target list. It would cut off the Russian army in Ukraine already and make it impossible for Vlad to deploy his conscript army into Ukraine, they would be trapped inside Russia. Consider it a humanitarian act, designed to save mostly Russian lives, cut Vlad off at the knees.