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DIY-HP-LED

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Maybe this was the deal between Putin and Xi.

Putin kills/drives off a huge percentage of his young males and helps Xi out of their stupid 'One Child' policy.
Unfortunately for Xi, by the time they dropped one child and wanted to increase population, widespread birth control and female social emancipation happened. China became a modern technological society and successful economy with all the social change that it entails, irrespective of the form of government.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Own the night they say, and technology allows it, the Ukrainians have it and the Russians don't have much or any. On dark cloudy nights they are blind, but the Ukrainian drones and special forces roaming the Russian rear areas at will are not and can see quite well at night. Infrared cameras and thermal sights work best at night and in cold weather, warm bodies stand out brightly as do warm vehicles.

 

printer

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I wonder how many of these they will get? A few of these and some mine sweepers should open up the Black Sea for Ukrainian grain. I also wonder is Uncle Sam wiring up the Black Sea for sound with undersea cables and hydrophones, or perhaps it already has done it with NATO member Turkey during the cold war.

And it will not be ready for another two years (from what I have read) as the ship is built but all the armaments and other goodies has not been installed yet.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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if putin targets internet cables, the world will have no choice but to put a stop to it, way too much of the entire worlds infrastructure relies on that hardware. he's already done incalculable damage...how many will starve because of his war? how many civilians killed?
that apparently isn't enough to piss the world off righteously...but you fuck with their ability to tweet and facebook, and they'll rise up like a human tidal wave and crush you.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/01/vladimir-putins-latest-frightening-gambit-lies-at-the-bottom-of-the-ocean
 

printer

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if putin targets internet cables, the world will have no choice but to put a stop to it, way too much of the entire worlds infrastructure relies on that hardware. he's already done incalculable damage...how many will starve because of his war? how many civilians killed?
that apparently isn't enough to piss the world off righteously...but you fuck with their ability to tweet and facebook, and they'll rise up like a human tidal wave and crush you.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/01/vladimir-putins-latest-frightening-gambit-lies-at-the-bottom-of-the-ocean

There was a reason Russia pick the spot to do its drills.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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There was a reason Russia pick the spot to do its drills.
there is a reason russia does everything it does...one of the prime reasons is to intimidate their neighbors, but i don't think that is working that well anymore. we've all seen how effective the russian military WAS...now that most of it is dead, and most of their decent munitions are used up, they're not even the joke that they were at the start of the war...now it feels like i'm watching an old wolf get savaged by the new pack leader...and i like it a fucking lot.

however i suspect you're referring to this
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-agents-went-to-ireland-to-inspect-undersea-cables-report-2020-2

i almost hope russia does try it...it will be the provocation required to finally smash putin flat, like the cockroach he is, and put russia back in it's place, inside it's own borders, permanently.
 

schuylaar

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You know it still chafes my ass that when the US needed Zelensky to tell the truth, he decided to stay out of it.

What do you think would be happening in Ukraine right now if the US decided to stay out of it?

Good thing that even when we were hated by the world for four years+, they could still find it in themselves to take our money.

Zelensky's wife was on 60 Minutes..stop already! Every day..every day..every day..begging for money. Enough is enough!
 
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schuylaar

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Roger A. Shrubber

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You know it still chafes my ass that when the US needed Zelensky to tell the truth, he decided to stay out of it.

What do you think would be happening in Ukraine now if the US decided to stay out of it?

Good thing that even when we were hated by the world for four years+, they could still find it in themselves to take our money.

Zelensky's wife was on 60 Minutes..stop already! Every day..every day..every day..begging for money. Enough is enough!
No...When russia is defeated, then it will be enough...I'll give her whatever i have that i don't need, because she is begging for the life of her country, which is bravely placing itself in the path of russian imperialism.
Whatever the cost, ridding the world of the threat of russia is worth it, and more.
Don't turn your back on them because you're bored with his wife...That is what the enemies of freedom and democracy want, for us to quit caring.
 

PJ Diaz

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schuylaar

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No...When russia is defeated, then it will be enough...I'll give her whatever i have that i don't need, because she is begging for the life of her country, which is bravely placing itself in the path of russian imperialism.
Whatever the cost, ridding the world of the threat of russia is worth it, and more.
Don't turn your back on them because you're bored with his wife...That is what the enemies of freedom and democracy want, for us to quit caring.
That wasn't my point.
 

printer

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there is a reason russia does everything it does...one of the prime reasons is to intimidate their neighbors, but i don't think that is working that well anymore. we've all seen how effective the russian military WAS...now that most of it is dead, and most of their decent munitions are used up, they're not even the joke that they were at the start of the war...now it feels like i'm watching an old wolf get savaged by the new pack leader...and i like it a fucking lot.

however i suspect you're referring to this
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-agents-went-to-ireland-to-inspect-undersea-cables-report-2020-2

i almost hope russia does try it...it will be the provocation required to finally smash putin flat, like the cockroach he is, and put russia back in it's place, inside it's own borders, permanently.
No, not that article. But it has been reported a number of time of Russian subs sitting beside the cables.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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if putin targets internet cables, the world will have no choice but to put a stop to it, way too much of the entire worlds infrastructure relies on that hardware. he's already done incalculable damage...how many will starve because of his war? how many civilians killed?
that apparently isn't enough to piss the world off righteously...but you fuck with their ability to tweet and facebook, and they'll rise up like a human tidal wave and crush you.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/01/vladimir-putins-latest-frightening-gambit-lies-at-the-bottom-of-the-ocean
I would be the same thing as attacking shipping, navies protect commerce and trade, that's what they do. I would be easy to sink every Russian vessel on the sea and their access to it is limited.
 
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