Roger A. Shrubber
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if there are any citizens there who would like to be under russian rule, that's cool, kick them out of the country, into russia...they can be under all the russian rule they want, just not in Ukraine...
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Friendly_Grower
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I don't get the filter on the media except the NATO thing seems to be a carrot up Putin's ass.
I served in Germany and I remember the realm so to speak.
He has to be a dumb ass to try expansion instead of stabilization unless he is pushing the first domino that is the long column of dominoes that is Russia giving up being an outsider to the rest of the world.
If Trump and the Q-GOP lose 2024 Putin will have to weather a cycle in American politics that will see him into his 80's
I really have to ponder the global dynamics but the "Go-To" weapon that seems to shorten this mind-gasm of Putin seems to be to threaten the wealth of those that exploited Russia in the fall of the Soviet union.
This is post centralized wealth. Who got that power is why there is ignorance in the former Soviet union.
DIY-HP-LED
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That's the Ukrainians goal and the EUs too I figure, there is undeveloped oil and gas in Crimea and offshore outside Odessa and oil and gas in the east too. In fact there is enough gas to supply Europe for a decade, most of it undeveloped. It is also the biggest source of Helium as a byproduct apparently. Ukraine wants it's turf, but it also needs long term security for prosperity and stability, the way to ensure that is to destroy as much of Vlad's army as they can, kick him in the nuts as hard as they can on the way out the door.
This will also lower future defense costs for NATO and America and allow America to shift focus to China, as they already have announced. They wouldn't do this unless they figured Ukraine was in the bag and Vlad will be fucked for good. We will only need a token force in Europe after this shit, the Germans are going strong and NATO will have two very powerful new members. The myth of the mighty red army has been shattered, along with their invincibility and this will have implications in other former soviet republics, they smell weakness. Ukraine is a powerful example for them, an inspiration and potential ally, also courage is highly contagious, it can spread quickly and is fueled by hope.
Friendly_Grower
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Oh, make no mistake. Energy such as oil, gas and such is the cornerstone in Putin's politics.
Friendly_Grower
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Look everyone...
If they in Russia have had a Mafia where if you're in, you get a share and, they are running out of shares.. Well you have to steal Ukraine.
It's Child Simple!
They are going after more "Shares" to keep the theft and graft going in Russia!
After all in the fall of the Soviet union the wealth was up for grabs! That "Gold Fever" must still be going on except they are chewing on Ukraine now.
I understand that in the beginning of Putin's power he offered prosperity to the Russians. It actually happened and now prosperity is a "Poot-Out" not a Poot-In.
So he is doing the Nazi and trying to grab Ukraine.
That old man with saggy balls and all the money to spend anyone could imagine is still pathetically crying his eyes out and I ask WHY!
If they in Russia have had a Mafia where if you're in, you get a share and, they are running out of shares.. Well you have to steal Ukraine.
It's Child Simple!
They are going after more "Shares" to keep the theft and graft going in Russia!
After all in the fall of the Soviet union the wealth was up for grabs! That "Gold Fever" must still be going on except they are chewing on Ukraine now.
I understand that in the beginning of Putin's power he offered prosperity to the Russians. It actually happened and now prosperity is a "Poot-Out" not a Poot-In.
So he is doing the Nazi and trying to grab Ukraine.
That old man with saggy balls and all the money to spend anyone could imagine is still pathetically crying his eyes out and I ask WHY!
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DIY-HP-LED
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Imagine if Ukraine a country of 45 million, replaced Russia as Europe's energy supplier until they got a green new grid and EVs up and running. A couple of billion a day or more after the seized Russian money rebuilds and capitalizes the place can be leveraged by an educated population to produce a great life. Winning the war and fucking Russia, while stealing their primary energy market for good and getting all the money they had abroad seems a fitting end. However there will be another Russian invasion of Ukraine, economic refugees, they might need a wall!
DIY-HP-LED
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Update from Ukraine | Ukrainian RAT helped ruzzians to INVADE US?
Friendly_Grower
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What I am seeing on T.V. is that slowly there will be a restriction on economic viability for Russia.
I don't know about you but if my "Woman" said you get love every week for three years and then it goes to once a month then I sleep with your Brother well I just might take notice if that was the only game in town.
Poor Putin... He is dying and he thinks Russia should do something for him.
That Dumb Ass has never held a job in America if he thinks ownership owes him a damn thing.
GoatSoup
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Over the lat few months I've watched the Ukr's kick Russia's ass and it is increasig now that the west is feeding better arms in to ukrin's army. Our, and UK, German, French 155 mm arty is giveing the Ukr a 5-20 mile advantage in range and the superior Ukr' drones and the counter battery radar we supplied will nullify the Russians main stragegy of massed Arty to disrupt the battelfield. Now their Arty is well out classed and they are running out of missles and don't have the tech to replace them in the numbers they will need.
Not only the above but their lack of effective leadership in the NCO and company grade officer corps means their army is shit on a shingle.
And now it seems Pooty is trying to call the shots tactitly just like Adolph did at the end.
As Pooty reduces his ambitions and the mud drieds, the new self propelled arty and tanks of the Ukrainians will sweep the Russians out of the Donbas and perhaps even Crimeia?
Not only the above but their lack of effective leadership in the NCO and company grade officer corps means their army is shit on a shingle.
And now it seems Pooty is trying to call the shots tactitly just like Adolph did at the end.
As Pooty reduces his ambitions and the mud drieds, the new self propelled arty and tanks of the Ukrainians will sweep the Russians out of the Donbas and perhaps even Crimeia?
injinji
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If the V team keep pulling shit like the river crossing it could come faster than anyone thinks. They sent men and equipment across two more times after they knew that Ukraine had the range on them. Maybe the biggest fuckup in the last 50 years.
ANC
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I've been watching travel videos to the region before the whole shit with Russia kicked off.
I don;t think it is much a question of like... but many of these communities were economically linked to neighboring towns, now across the border, which changed them into basins of poverty and being cut off from what powered their societies before...
Roger A. Shrubber
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BudmanTX
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speaking of traitors and seditionists.....look like UA is rounding them up
BudmanTX
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this war....thought it wasn't a war....hmmmmm
www.thedailybeast.com
Kremlin Tells Russians: Don’t Worry, This War Will ‘Make Your Lives Better’
“Our president knows where he is leading our country,” Putin’s spokesman claims.
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/erdogan-russian-ally-or-putins-puppet
erdogan is so far up putin's ass he can see the light shining in putin's nostrils...
if he proves a major obstacle to Finland and Sweden joining, NATO should start whatever proceedings it needs to to kick Turkey the fuck out of NATO...problem solved. Either they will drop their obstructionist bullshit, or they'll not be a member any longer...how long do you think it would take russia to swallow turkey whole without NATO stopping them?
erdogan is so far up putin's ass he can see the light shining in putin's nostrils...
if he proves a major obstacle to Finland and Sweden joining, NATO should start whatever proceedings it needs to to kick Turkey the fuck out of NATO...problem solved. Either they will drop their obstructionist bullshit, or they'll not be a member any longer...how long do you think it would take russia to swallow turkey whole without NATO stopping them?
BudmanTX
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keep spending those ruples buddy.......
www.themoscowtimes.com
uh oh....
www.bloomberg.com
Russian Defense Spending Surges to $300M Per Day Amid Ukraine War - The Moscow Times
Russia spent more than $300 million per day on defense last month as its invasion of Ukraine continued to drag on, according to Finance Ministry data, more than doubling its pre-war defense spending.
uh oh....
US Set to Block Russian Debt Payments, Raising Default Odds
The Biden administration is poised to fully block Russian bond payments to US investors after a deadline expires next week, a move that could force Moscow into its first foreign default in a century.
www.bloomberg.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Many nations film changes of tegime, but the Russians also score the film!
www.newsweek.com
Is Putin Dead? Pay Attention When Russia Starts Broadcasting "Swan Lake"
To figure out what's going on in the Kremlin, the Russian president's enemies are keeping a close eye on a bird in pointe shoes. Here's the key.
www.newsweek.com
BudmanTX
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interesting to say the least....if i'm correct the last time pooty made an apperance was during the parade....or was that a double?Many nations film changes of tegime, but the Russians also score the film!
Is Putin Dead? Pay Attention When Russia Starts Broadcasting "Swan Lake"
To figure out what's going on in the Kremlin, the Russian president's enemies are keeping a close eye on a bird in pointe shoes. Here's the key.
