the most important concept to understand when usuing any fertilizer product

[OldMedUser]

I believe you can get a free water report from your water company.

I've telling people to do that for years. If you use use tap water then you should know what's in it.

It isn't going to give you the info we need for growing plants however. If you're interested in knowing how much Fluoride or Chloride your plants are getting, they will give you that info.

A lot of tap water can be high in things that can mess up your grow tho still be well within ranges for potable water. I've caught many problems that growers post thinking it's a deficiency when it's often an excess of something like iron, sodium, manganese etc. Best to get the full lab report as a lot of cities/towns just post the dumbed down one that doesn't tell you hardly anything. A little chlorine, chloramine or fluoride isn't going to hurt anything. Offends me that they can be present so I've only ever used RO or distilled water then I don't have to worry about all those other things either.

 

[coco87769]

cogos produce almost twice as much feed with higher quality element without selling fertilizer one piece at a time which means you spend more not less jacks listed application rates are about the same or lower than Cogo's which is it? the same or lower because if it is lower then the price for jacks is more not less lmao especially when you have to buy extra to make it work. urea magnesium sulfate and calcium sold separate but when added creates gysum ..you would have to be smoking crack to use jacks

Jacks does not charge a ridiculous "first time user" fee and the listed application rates are about the same or lower than Cogo's, meaning you get the same amount of feed or MORE when you use jacks.

 

[coco87769]

city water is some of the best water to use chlorine is a element used by the plant ...is this a pitch to use R/O lol temperature effects growth more than any other factor fertilizer is the last thing to worry about

It isn't going to give you the info we need for growing plants however. If you're interested in knowing how much Fluoride or Chloride your plants are getting, they will give you that info.

 

[coco87769]

That’s a thing for fertilizer?

of course quality of the elements used is a "thing" as you put it there are 6 levels of quality. pharmaceutical grade is the purest for practical use one and two are for labs and the cost is not practical to use them

 

[J.James]

temperature effects growth more than any other factor

I am pretty sure that Light affects growth more than any other thing..... but what do I know, I just do this for a living.

I guess it would be hard to grow plants in any extreme environment so again your statement is partially true but very misleading.

 

[coco87769]

then put less macro elements and more micro elements that's what 2 parts are for...its not what you like that's important its what the plants like and need that's important...consumers have been brainwashed (because of their lack of the basics} to buy extra products thinking it makes them better cultivators. cogos are well balanced complete fertilizer that don't spike less than %1 ammonium nitrate calcium nitrate potassium nitrate magnesium nitrate is what plants want and need in proper balance limit competition for THC creation? lmao thats a new one lol

thats a lot of available nitrogen for flower, tank solutions would spike pH quick, def balanced enough you can feed high. but to high i like to be able to drop as much N as i can in mid late flower to slow leaf growth and limit competition with THC creation

 

[Wastei]

then put less macro elements and more micro elements that's what 2 parts are for...its not what you like that's important its what the plants like and need that's important...consumers have been brainwashed (because of their lack of the basics} to buy extra products thinking it makes them better cultivators. cogos are well balanced complete fertilizer that don't spike less than %1 ammonium nitrate calcium nitrate potassium nitrate magnesium nitrate is what plants want and need in proper balance limit competition for THC creation? lmao thats a new one lol

Who's sock are you? Don't talk and argue about subjects you clearly don't understand. You're not here to learn, you're only here to be "right".

Grow a pair and come back when you're ready to listen and learn from people with more experience than yourself.

Sam lives on his own planet I believe. His our own Broscience warrior! Fun guy to follow for sure.

 

[coco87769]

of course light and air are important however temperature effects the plant the most..tomatoes are much harder to grow than herbs.. growing plants in the snow doesn't work very well in spite of all the light and of course the water would be frozen so that wouldnt work very well would it... the air is usually dryer but what causes all these limiting factors? of course the temperature lmao the only thing you cultivate at your age is your ego and your mouth get a education son you are pretty sure of nothing

I am pretty sure that Light affects growth more than any other thing..... but what do I know, I just do this for a living.

I guess it would be hard to grow plants in any extreme environment so again your statement is partially true but very misleading.

 

[Rurumo]

no thats incorrect

cogo charges first time retail users 125 after that all his water soluble is 50-65 dollars per 25lb bag cogos also makes more feed than jacks for less all of cogos products make much more than the brands you are talking about, he uses pharmaceutical grade elements. jacks doesn't, veg and bloom is the worst especially when they charge 200- 600 for a 25lb bag

This "pharmaceutical grade" nonsense is just marketing semantics. And just be honest about who you are, you are shilling an overpriced product, honestly, you'd have more success here if you tried to promote the positive points of your product rather than trash a VERY well respected competitor. Cogo's uses pure salts, so does Jack's...we can verify this FACT as consumers thank's to the state AAPFCO databases.

 

[coco87769]

now your accusing me of what you are doing...is that all you got? these are basic debating skills son that's what you kids strive for argue and debate about a subject you learned form high times and consensus lol listen and learn from people with more experience than yourself.'? thats called a ask hole first you get a education meaning study the subject then you go out in the real world and apply the education thats where you get experience understanding a subject doesn't mean asking the wrong questions it means studying the subject

Who's sock are you? Don't talk and argue about subjects you clearly don't understand. You're not here to learn, you're only here to be "right".

Grow a pair and come back when you're ready to listen and learn from people with more experience than yourself.

 

[Wastei]

now your accusing me of what you are doing...is that all you got? these are basic debating skills son that's what you kids strive for argue and debate about a subject you learned form high times and consensus lol listen and learn from people with more experience than yourself.'? thats called a ask hole first you get a education meaning study the subject then you go out in the real world and apply the education thats where you get experience understanding a subject doesn't mean asking the wrong questions it means studying the subject

Well you only talk in theoretical terms and seem to lack experience and understanding of the subject matter? If you believe theory is superior to actual experience you're a complete fool.

 

[J.James]

Once you were bound by chains of iron, now you are bound with chains of gold. Good luck with your grow @coco87769

 

[Rufus T. Firefly]

DEA informant selling cannabis fertilizer, I guess if you’re alive long enough you get see just about everything.

 

[coco87769]

quality of the elements used is important including how the product is put together,the ratios mean everything. of course its marketing and could be called semantics however Semantic marketing is transforming the way marketers understand and target their customers' interests and allows them to deliver results that more closely align with what customers really need. as far as facts are concerned they can be used to support a false premise .honestly before you kids were using advanced with 12 bottles this FACT as consumers using consensus instead of education brought you finally to cheap incomplete water soluble. thanks to the state AAPFCO databases?. lol talk about semantics . the fact is you kids only memorize material with out studying the subject AAPFCO is an organization of fertilizer control officials from each state in the United States, from Canada and from Puerto Rico who are actively engaged in the administration of fertilizer laws and regulations; and, research workers employed by these governments who are engaged in any investigation concerning mixed ...you used this tAAPFCO to support your proposition without understand what it actual was. lmao your a classic consumer with no education.i didnt trsh anyones product i merley pointed out what its lacking along with your education

This "pharmaceutical grade" nonsense is just marketing semantics. And just be honest about who you are, you are shilling an overpriced product, honestly, you'd have more success here if you tried to promote the positive points of your product rather than trash a VERY well respected competitor. Cogo's uses pure salts, so does Jack's...we can verify this FACT as consumers thank's to the state AAPFCO databases.

 

[coco87769]

and there it is the true intention of the discussion not fertilizer not cultivation but cogo lol

DEA informant selling cannabis fertilizer, I guess if you’re alive long enough you get see just about everything.

 

[zzyx]

quality of the elements used is important including how the product is put together,the ratios mean everything. of course its marketing and could be called semantics however Semantic marketing is transforming the way marketers understand and target their customers' interests and allows them to deliver results that more closely align with what customers really need. as far as facts are concerned they can be used to support a false premise .honestly before you kids were using advanced with 12 bottles this FACT as consumers using consensus instead of education brought you finally to cheap incomplete water soluble. thanks to the state AAPFCO databases?. lol talk about semantics . the fact is you kids only memorize material with out studying the subject AAPFCO is an organization of fertilizer control officials from each state in the United States, from Canada and from Puerto Rico who are actively engaged in the administration of fertilizer laws and regulations; and, research workers employed by these governments who are engaged in any investigation concerning mixed ...you used this tAAPFCO to support your proposition without understand what it actual was. lmao your a classic consumer with no education.i didnt trsh anyones product i merley pointed out what its lacking along with your education

who you calling a kid?
1st rule of marketing: don’t insult the customer!
Anywho, please provide the name of the lab that certifies your fertilizer as pharmaceutical grade and a copy of that certification.

 

[Creature1969]

and there it is the true intention of the discussion not fertilizer not cultivation but cogo lol

Seems your true intention is selling overpriced fertilizer without paying advertiser fees. 62 posts in a year, most of them in this thread. How much are you being paid to log in?

 

[coco87769]

im a pioneer i don't care about customers that don't care about themselves i only deal with professional cultivator's . you young kids just hate to be wrong meaning you don't want to learn you don't want to be told no and when they are shown that they are full of shit they lose their self esteem. instead of studying the subject so that they can make more informed decisions...they snitch on the messenger complaining to the administrator. this type of behavior is prevalent these days from about 15 year old to 45...ignorance is bliss but it sure makes for good consumers

 

[Rufus T. Firefly]

and there it is the true intention of the discussion not fertilizer not cultivation but cogo lol

People might not want to purchase cannabis related supplies from a guy who turned over customer lists to the DEA.

 

[zzyx]

@coco87769 While able to find my fertilizer of choice in this database, I was unable to find Cogo’s.

CDFA Fertilizer Product Database

apps1.cdfa.ca.gov