Extreme Defoliation...

[mudballs]

Laugh it up, but it's the reason I defend defoliating in every thread. I got into the zone and picked until I thought I had ruined my plants. Then they came back with a fury,

Im not laughing lusid just so you know..im neither for nor against.. you take a months worth of nutes you fed the plant and just cut em all off and throw it away..why

 

[AngerbizcuTT]

I personally think heavy pruning on the 1st day of flip is way more beneficial than defoliating. the third week is when defoliation is most beneficial.

Ahhh I see ...yes that last defoil is the that money shot fr...have you ever defoiliated this heavily twice on same plant ? If so what did you see or notice in growth speed growth structure and yeild quanity an quality......sorry about all the questions bro...just curious af and you are active and helpful lol

 

[PopAndSonGrows]

That just seems overkill to me. Seems like you're forcing the plant to waste energy on replenishing foliage, which would otherwise go toward maybe thickening or lengthening branches. . ..

It's your plant.

 

[MickFoster]

It would be pretty boring and this forum would be unnecessary if we all did the same thing.

 

[CheGueVapo]

how long it usually takes for plant to recover?

What some people think defolation actually does:


What most of the times actually happens:

 

[xtsho]

Nice bro..it makes sense in my head ...once all the leaves are gone energy and nutes are redirected so a huge amount of unused energy is coursing thru the plant after defoil looking for any weak spot or outlet...I imagine that The last defoil at day 21-ish is very beneficial. I will be doing this on my next run for sure....

Actually you're losing energy when you defoliate until the leaves grow back. Photosynthesis takes place in the leaves so by removing those you are removing the engines that power the plant. Sure the leaves will grow back but during that time energy production is reduced.

I'm not making anything up that's a just a scientific fact. Less leaves = less photosynthesis = less energy unless centuries of scientific research in plant science is wrong.

 

[Smallbud]

Defoliated plants heavily, complains about having to trim final bud lol

 

[Bucsfan80]

I defoliated her to max, stripping off all fan leaves and letting her to give out all branches into main ones. Has anyone ever used extreme defoliation, and how long it usually takes for plant to recover?

What have you done? I've never seen anyone do that. The fans are there solar panels and do a lot for the plants..

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Nice bro..it makes sense in my head ...once all the leaves are gone energy and nutes are redirected so a huge amount of unused energy is coursing thru the plant after defoil looking for any weak spot or outlet...I imagine that The last defoil at day 21-ish is very beneficial. I will be doing this on my next run for sure....

Yeah... That's not quite how it works. Lol

 

[AngerbizcuTT]

I personally think heavy pruning on the 1st day of flip is way more beneficial than defoliating. the third week is when defoliation is most beneficial.

Yeah... That's not quite how it works. Lol

Like I said "in my head" Thats how I imagine it. Wasnt actually being serious, but you sound like you know.... so would you explain how defoliation benefits or hinders the plant ? And explain the extreme defoiliation here and the pros n cons?

 

[BioScout]

I think I agree with most of the sentiment here, but I could see extreme defoliation being beneficial if there is a pest problem in veg you can not get under control and it is a photoperiod so you can indefinitely veg... maybe

 

[ComfortCreator]

When leaves are removed, more light penetrates further down through the canopy until the leaves grow again.

When growing tips are removed, energy is refocused to the other existing tips and/or to growing newer tips higher up on the canopy.

Those are the two main reasons various forms of defoliation or pruning are done.

 

[lusidghost]

I'm going to quit defoliating on the first day of flip. I don't see a reason for it. The plant is still basically in vegetation, so there are no bud sites. All it's really doing is exposing my coco to direct light. Defoliation may slow down the stretch, but I'll just flip my plants earlier.

 

[AngerbizcuTT]

I'm going to quit defoliating on the first day of flip. I don't see a reason for it. The plant is still basically in vegetation, so there are no bud sites. All it's really doing is exposing my coco to direct light. Defoliation may slow down the stretch, but I'll just flip my plants earlier.

I was considering the plants actual health ..like monster cropping? Just with leaves ?

 

[strainguy]

That's a heavy one defoliation.... I tried one time, but it did not give any better result than easy defoliation in 5th or 6th week just taking off those fan leaves which block the light. After heavy defoliations plants gets enormous stress, plus leaves are useful to the plant till the last day of flowering to produce energy for bud growth....

 

[lusidghost]

I was considering the plants actual health ..like monster cropping? Just with leaves ?

Monster cropping is growing a clone from a flowering plant. I don't really understand the comparison. I don't see how a massive removal of leaves is beneficial health wise. The only thing I will argue is that defoliation allows shaded out buds to look as nice as the ones in direct light. I don't think it's kicks in some sort of overcompensating biological mechanism.

 

[AngerbizcuTT]

Monster cropping is growing a clone from a flowering plant. I don't really understand the comparison. I don't see how a massive removal of leaves is beneficial health wise. The only thing I will argue is that defoliation allows shaded out buds to look as nice as the ones in direct light. I don't think it's kicks in some sort of overcompensating biological mechanism.

No I forgot the name but you kink all your stems and the stems become super strong and yeild like crazy its a common technique...im just spacing on the name ?

 

[AngerbizcuTT]

No I forgot the name but you kink all your stems and the stems become super strong and yeild like crazy its a common technique...im just spacing on the name ?

Thats what I was asking if heavy defoil is like that...the stem bending technique does something like over compensation for damaged areas and skillfulky applied it does just that .... but your saying you dont think heavy defoiliation has any heath or growth benefits ?

 

[C. Nesbitt]

Thats what I was asking if heavy defoil is like that...the stem bending technique does something like over compensation for damaged areas and skillfulky applied it does just that .... but your saying you dont think heavy defoiliation has any heath or growth benefits ?

Supercropping. Totally different than heavy defoliation though.

 

[GreenhouseGreen]

No I forgot the name but you kink all your stems and the stems become super strong and yeild like crazy its a common technique...im just spacing on the name ?

Supercropping. I don't thing you have to bend all of your stems, though. When I do it I only supercrop stems that would otherwise be topped because of height requirements.