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Humanrob

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Thanks buddy for following and commenting on my grow! I l bloody love growing and training autoflowers,it’s definitely the best hobby I have undergone up to now and to be honest I am quite new to it as have only been growing for just just over a year before this I used to make my own moonshine and even built my own still from scratch. But the one thing I do before starting any hobby is research the living crap out of it as I hate learning from mistakes and like to get it right the first time round. Anyway what’s ya humidity like ? To low or high?
Your research has definitely paid off! I sort of went the "learn as I go" method, started growing about a half dozen years ago, probably still haven't accumulated as much knowledge as you did before you even started! LOL

RH is too low, around 47%, which impacts them more at the beginning. I put jars over them when they are babes to trap moisture, and I have a little humidifier in there that I run once a day, it dumps about a gallon of water over about half the day, but most of it goes out the exhaust -- it only raises the RH% from the high 40's to the low 60's.

This is somewhere between a hobby and necessity for me, my wife is a med patient. My outdoor grow produces enough meds for the year, so the indoor is extra and experiments (and a safety net in case something goes wrong with the outdoor).
 

Humanrob

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I also did a bit of research into organic dry amendments for autoflower but it’s a fine line because when they are young seedlings they can still be easily burned and stunted and even if ya top dress after the first two weeks , by the time the nutrients start to break down the plant is growing like mad and it may get to hungry because their is not enough available nutrients for the plants. So I decided to stick with decent synthetic nutrients as I was not confident enough to go the other way, maybe one day. The only thing different I will be doing in the next grow is adding more pearlite to my light mix and mixing in some great white, fastbuds zkittles is my next grow , I will be starting it in the next 2 weeks.
I haven't given up on dry time release organic nutes, yet. One strategy is to only add the time release nutes to the soil in the bottom 1/3 of the pot. Theoretically the young plant's root mass initially is surrounded by just soil, and then as it grows it's roots expand into the hotter/richer soil. Then top feed carefully, it usually only takes one additional feeding at the start of flower.

I'm playing around with adapting SIP trench strategies, but I've recently learned the limitations. The concept is that you put concentrated "trenches" of nutes in the soil, and light feeders avoid them and heavy feeders tap into them, and there is enough there to last the duration of the grow. The limitation is that... well, it's far from optimal. Best case scenario is what you are doing -- providing light balanced nutrients to the entire root mass consistently.

I'm sort of limited by my fixation on attempting to reach as close as I can get to a "just add water" grow paradigm. It worked with SIPs, and it can work with well built organic living soil, might or might not be possible with what I'm doing. I'm also attempting to find one grow strategy/system that works for the widest variety of strains, regardless of whether they are light or heavy feeders, since I'm always growing multiple strains at the same time. So, I guess I'm willing to sacrifice optimal production for universal simplicity. Or something like that.

BTW, if anyone is reading this, don't follow my example!!! LOL, these are experiments that haven't killed the plants yet, but are definitely not optimal.
Can you dial your exhaust fan down?
No, its a 6" inline from when I used to have a bigger grow space, it's on its lowest setting.

EDIT: My using dry time release nutes is a holdover from my having started with photoperiod's, and I'm still on the steep part of the learning curve in terms of figuring the differences between growing photos and autos.
 
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Buddy73

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I also thought of putting the amendment in the bottom layer of the pot but my understanding is that the taproot finds it way straight down to the bottom of the pot quit quickly. As I said I am limited to how many plants I can grow and don’t want the risk of stunting or even killing them so until I am totally confident I. Other ways I will stick to what I know works well for me . And the 1ltr ghe trio bottles have lasted me 4 whole grows up to yet so very cheap in nutrients.
 

Humanrob

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I also thought of putting the amendment in the bottom layer of the pot but my understanding is that the taproot finds it way straight down to the bottom of the pot quit quickly. As I said I am limited to how many plants I can grow and don’t want the risk of stunting or even killing them so until I am totally confident I. Other ways I will stick to what I know works well for me . And the 1ltr ghe trio bottles have lasted me 4 whole grows up to yet so very cheap in nutrients.
That's interesting... it could be the reason my 1-2 week old seedlings are looking a little off. Well, this grow is already under way, I'll have to take some notes for next winter. The good news is that a couple of the strains I'm growing have the potential to get huge, and huge would be too big for this space, so maybe through my own poor choices I'll manage to keep them small enough to fit the space. ;) Always nice to find a silver lining. :D
 

Humanrob

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That big gsc I grew used the whole 2x4 grow tent on its own!
Yeah... I made some bad decisions this grow, some right from the outset. At the last Mephisto drop, based on their one paragraph description I picked up some Mango Smile seeds (my wife prefers Sativa/Sativa dominant hybrids). I went ahead and popped one, and later found a copy of their strain guide and read the full description. Turns out in Mephisto's own seed grows MS often got too tall for their 7' ceiling and they had to supercrop them (D'oh!). Didn't see that coming. Good thing I burned that tap root with those nutes in the bottom 1/3 of the pot! :D I top ALL my plants, so that should help. That, and the Buddy73 training method... that's what I'm counting on. :cool:
 

Humanrob

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Any pictures buddy? And I can never seem to find mephisto in stock anywhere
Pictures of what, the Mango Smile? It's about 9 days old, I can take one if you like but it's not much to look at.

They announce their drops on AFN, Instagram and Reddit, I believe. Usually someone picks up on it and starts a thread here. The best deals by far are to buy directly from them, that's the only way I would buy them.
 

Mookjong

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Yeah... I made some bad decisions this grow, some right from the outset. At the last Mephisto drop, based on their one paragraph description I picked up some Mango Smile seeds (my wife prefers Sativa/Sativa dominant hybrids). I went ahead and popped one, and later found a copy of their strain guide and read the full description. Turns out in Mephisto's own seed grows MS often got too tall for their 7' ceiling and they had to supercrop them (D'oh!). Didn't see that coming. Good thing I burned that tap root with those nutes in the bottom 1/3 of the pot! :D I top ALL my plants, so that should help. That, and the Buddy73 training method... that's what I'm counting on. :cool:
Thanks for the info on the mango smile, I've been looking at it. I have a 7' ceiling too. I'm thinking about getting the mystery pack as Im kinda fed up searching breeders details. I keep seeing people buying from breeders and they get no info, and yet they're extremely pleased. I wish I knew where those people were getting that confidence in their purchase.
Any pictures buddy? And I can never seem to find mephisto in stock anywhere
seeds here now restocked some mephisto yesterday.
 

Humanrob

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Thanks for the info on the mango smile, I've been looking at it. I have a 7' ceiling too. I'm thinking about getting the mystery pack as Im kinda fed up searching breeders details. I keep seeing people buying from breeders and they get no info, and yet they're extremely pleased. I wish I knew where those people were getting that confidence in their purchase.

seeds here now restocked some mephisto yesterday.
Currently I'm growing in a 2x4x5! LOL, no 7' for me.

I know what you mean about the lack of descriptions, RocBud is a good example, he sells out without giving really any information at all about his strains.

It's a MUCH better deal if you can wait and buy direct from Mephisto. If you have to have them now and you have money to burn, then seedsherenow is an option.
 

Mookjong

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Currently I'm growing in a 2x4x5! LOL, no 7' for me.

I know what you mean about the lack of descriptions, RocBud is a good example, he sells out without giving really any information at all about his strains.

It's a MUCH better deal if you can wait and buy direct from Mephisto. If you have to have them now and you have money to burn, then seedsherenow is an option.
Ya im gonna have to. Otherwise ill burn some weeks waiting. Im thinking to offset the extra cost, im gonna try the mystery pack of meph seeds. That way I get a variety. I just wish I trusted more cuz Im worried ill get a mystery pack of his "project" seeds. Id do it if it was a mystery pack of his finished work or w.e. Like 1 mango smile 1 skywalker 1 double graper and so on. Im not interested in a pack of "maybes". You ever try a mystery pack?
 

Humanrob

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Ya im gonna have to. Otherwise ill burn some weeks waiting. Im thinking to offset the extra cost, im gonna try the mystery pack of meph seeds. That way I get a variety. I just wish I trusted more cuz Im worried ill get a mystery pack of his "project" seeds. Id do it if it was a mystery pack of his finished work or w.e. Like 1 mango smile 1 skywalker 1 double graper and so on. Im not interested in a pack of "maybes". You ever try a mystery pack?
I haven't tried a mystery pack. With my last purchase I got a whole bunch of what I think you are referring to as his "project" seeds, as freebies, and actually I'm kind of looking forward to trying them, and I have very small grows and little room for mediocrity. My limited understanding is that the infamous "hybrid vigor" that people talk about with F1's happens when they are made from two stabilized lines, and I think that's what Mephisto is doing. It's not guaranteed that every seed will be great, but the odds are good that since the parents genetics are stabilized whichever way the phenos lean, something good will come of it.

I wonder if within the Mystery Pack they identify the individual strains, or is it just a pack of unidentified seeds? I'm wondering if the mystery is that you don't know what you're going to get before you get it, or that you'll never know what you got? I'd be kind of surprised if they don't identify them. I think the benefit to them is that when they give away freebies (or release less expensive mystery packs), they get feedback, and we all become beta-testers for them, which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing.
 
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Mookjong

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I haven't tried a mystery pack. With my last purchase I got a whole bunch of what I think you are referring to as his "project" seeds, as freebies, and actually I'm kind of looking forward to trying them, and I have very small grows and little room for mediocracy. My limited understanding is that the infamous "hybrid vigor" that people talk about with F1's happens when they are made from two stabilized lines, and I think that's what Mephisto is doing. It's not guaranteed that every seed will be great, but the odds are good that since the parents genetics are stabilized whichever way the phenos lean, something good will come of it.

I wonder if within the Mystery Pack they identify the individual strains, or is it just a pack of unidentified seeds? I'm wondering if the mystery is that you don't know what you're going to get before you get it, or that you'll never know what you got? I'd be kind of surprised if they don't identify them. I think the benefit to them is that when they give away freebies (or release less expensive mystery packs), they get feedback, and we all become beta-testers for them, which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing.
I actually emailed seedsherenow that very question. He said they are completely unlabeled. He sent me pics but I don't know how to share pics. .

Is it rude for me to post here? Ive been away for some years...
 

Humanrob

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I actually emailed seedsherenow that very question. He said they are completely unlabeled. He sent me pics but I don't know how to share pics. .

Is it rude for me to post here? Ive been away for some years...
We have sort of gone off the rails on @Buddy73 's thread with other topics. Sorry Buddy.
 
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