First grow in any form! Chime in if you feel you can help.

Alphonso OG

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I don't check my runoff anymore but when u mention it, that's what I do next. Everything has just been so easygoing didn't bother. Kinda forgot about nunoff. Except when I get troubled by thoughts of contamination spreading from outside to my roots through my hoses..

If I find runoff problems I'll customise the lines to make things easier.
Yes thats usually my first suspect
I don't check my runoff anymore but when u mention it, that's what I do next. Everything has just been so easygoing didn't bother. Kinda forgot about nunoff. Except when I get troubled by thoughts of contamination spreading from outside to my roots through my hoses..

If I find runoff problems I'll customise the lines to make things easier.
Gotta stay vigilant your almost home free.
 

Destroyer of chairs

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Fed clones and flowering plants couple hours ago. Upped flowering to old strength and reduced the veg. Did double dose of hydroguard for clones in fear of problems lurking.

Clones/veg
PH 5.9
Calmag: 0.25ml/L (25%)
Veg a+b 1ml/L (25%)
Hydroguard 1ml/L (200%)
Seems like they are doing better, less yellowish. I'm curious if that will change after the feed. The 3 biggest were bit too dry, toplayer turned ligh brown. The 4 others were still bit soaked. Maybe I did a bad thing feeding the soaked ones as well. They seem to be growing fine though so there is that.
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Flowering
PH 5.8
Calmag: 0.50ml/L (50%)
Bloom a+b 3ml/L (75%)
Hydroguard 0.5ml/L (100%)
Not sure if the leaves have gotten worse had my focus on supporting a branch laying on its side when I entered the room. Nothing rope can't fix. Buds are getting heavier every day:
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Destroyer of chairs

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Fed flowering ladies yesterday 18:30. Noticed the healthy of the two also starting developing some sort of spotting on the leaves. I'll grab a few pics later.
This time I DID measure Runoff ec and oh. Runoff were a little bit higher in ec but PH about the same. Though I did measure from the very last drops of Runoff, and they get 10L each.
Now that I'm feeding daily I think I should make bigger batches but only give them maybe 4L each. Thoughts?
Here are the numbers:

Feed
Ec 1.4
PH 5.8

Runoff
Ec 1.7
PH 5.8



As far as the clones go its indeed a draining issue as it yellowed again day after I fed them. Some drain enough but 2 or 3 rly need better drainage, making me wanna do the transplant sooner than later.
 

Grow Harder

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Fed clones and flowering plants couple hours ago. Upped flowering to old strength and reduced the veg. Did double dose of hydroguard for clones in fear of problems lurking.

Clones/veg
PH 5.9
Calmag: 0.25ml/L (25%)
Veg a+b 1ml/L (25%)
Hydroguard 1ml/L (200%)
Seems like they are doing better, less yellowish. I'm curious if that will change after the feed. The 3 biggest were bit too dry, toplayer turned ligh brown. The 4 others were still bit soaked. Maybe I did a bad thing feeding the soaked ones as well. They seem to be growing fine though so there is that.
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Flowering
PH 5.8
Calmag: 0.50ml/L (50%)
Bloom a+b 3ml/L (75%)
Hydroguard 0.5ml/L (100%)
Not sure if the leaves have gotten worse had my focus on supporting a branch laying on its side when I entered the room. Nothing rope can't fix. Buds are getting heavier every day:
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Oh what beautiful bush u have sir.
 

Destroyer of chairs

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yea ill wait for the pics
That will be in about 12 hours. I'll do some of both flower and veg. Couple bud shots can't hurt either? ;)

LST'ed vegging plants a bit yesterday but hah man, they not happy with the medium right now.

Really hope the spots appearing on both flowering plants are light stress, such an easy fix. Ill grab a pic or two of that as well.
 

Alphonso OG

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That will be in about 12 hours. I'll do some of both flower and veg. Couple bud shots can't hurt either? ;)

LST'ed vegging plants a bit yesterday but hah man, they not happy with the medium right now.

Really hope the spots appearing on both flowering plants are light stress, such an easy fix. Ill grab a pic or two of that as well.
Ok. Btw check out Grow Harder grow journal we were discussing a great way for cloning!
 

Alphonso OG

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Oh those are the same pots you vegging in correct? What size? could be a possibility of early signs of becoming root bound?
 

Destroyer of chairs

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Oh those are the same pots you vegging in correct? What size? could be a possibility of early signs of becoming root bound?
I really wouldn't know from own experience(got none), but from what I've read root bound issues is not something I need to worry about at this size in coco/perlite. Could be wrong.

BTW could u toss me a link to the journal? Tried search for it but not sure I got the right one

Edit: pots are 16 oz I think.
Edit2: oh wait do u mean my flowering plants?
 

Alphonso OG

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I really wouldn't know from own experience(got none), but from what I've read root bound issues is not something I need to worry about at this size in coco/perlite. Could be wrong.

BTW could u toss me a link to the journal? Tried search for it but not sure I got the right one

Edit: pots are 16 oz I think.
Edit2: oh wait do u mean my flowering plants?
I would research it just as a safe measure.

 

Destroyer of chairs

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Fed flowering couple hours ago.

Feed:
Ec 1.46
PH 5.8
Runoff:
EC 1.76
PH 5.8

Took some pictures as promised.
What sucked though is that for some reason I can't upload them.. High resolution pictures for best possible detail. Might be the problem never happened before. Except this one:
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But I'm way 2 tired to take new ones and it's morning already I need sleep.
 

Destroyer of chairs

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Fed the little bastards as well. Didn't have something clean to put the runoff in. PH 5.9 and EC 0.69(25% a+b & calmag).

Took a couple tops and cut some fan leaf getting cramped up. Trying different things, watching how they react. Gonna try mainline one at least.
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Do clones handle heavy feed compared to same size from seed?
 

Grow Harder

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Fed flowering girls same as before. Took a few pics of the leaf symptoms.

Left(healthiest)
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Right
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Feed:
PH 5.8
Ec 1.48

Runoff:
PH 5.8
Ec 1.73

0.25 EC rise. Within good enough range I guess?

Need to go buy some batteries for my loupe soon.
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I get the same thing during flowering. dont quote me here but I think it's related to phosphorus. During this stage in flowering or a little b4 hand, SOME strains really do like a a good PK boost.
 

Grow Harder

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Fed the little bastards as well. Didn't have something clean to put the runoff in. PH 5.9 and EC 0.69(25% a+b & calmag).

Took a couple tops and cut some fan leaf getting cramped up. Trying different things, watching how they react. Gonna try mainline one at least.
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Do clones handle heavy feed compared to same size from seed?
I believe the clones wouldn't be quite as sensitive as a seedling or small plant from seed. Technically the clone is just as mature as the mother .Also I would say it depends on how much of a root structure is formed. Is there a solid enough root structure to handle and mobilize that amount of nutrients? . Always keep in mind that u can always add more nutes but it's hard to overcome a good nute burn. When in doubt, always go with the "less is more" saying. Anyway, these are just pointers man because your girls look good and green. You could probably get away with a few waterings with no actual feeding.
 
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