6 X 6 how to get 3lbs

[indicalover420grower]

Well I looked into making my own rdwc instead of buying an overpriced one because 3" bulkheads cost a lot. Listen up im about to give you guys some game , or some of you info you probably did not know.

I came to the conclusion that trying to grow big plants in a RDWC will not work if the pipe are not at least 3" in diameter because eventually the pipes will get clogged if they are less than 3" in diameter. BUT, as I was watching a video which ill include channel name only IF im allowed to, but anyways he was using 2" diameter piping with what looked like at least 15 gallon bucket containers. The important thing he said was how the piping will NOT clog because this RDWC system is not pressurized except the return line/pipe... So I can provide the channel and exact time stamp where hes explaining this if im allowed to share links or names to youtube channels. I just think its very important to know because I was under the impression and im sure many others were too that 2 inch pipe will not work for big plants in a rdwc system because the pipes will eventually clog up, but according to this guy who is reputable, he uses 2 inch piping in his rdwc and grew 2lbs per bucket...Id guestimate its a 20 gallon bucket at most....

 

[ilovereggae]

Well I looked into making my own rdwc instead of buying an overpriced one because 3" bulkheads cost a lot. Listen up im about to give you guys some game , or some of you info you probably did not know.

I came to the conclusion that trying to grow big plants in a RDWC will not work if the pipe are not at least 3" in diameter because eventually the pipes will get clogged if they are less than 3" in diameter. BUT, as I was watching a video which ill include channel name only IF im allowed to, but anyways he was using 2" diameter piping with what looked like at least 15 gallon bucket containers. The important thing he said was how the piping will NOT clog because this RDWC system is not pressurized except the return line/pipe... So I can provide the channel and exact time stamp where hes explaining this if im allowed to share links or names to youtube channels. I just think its very important to know because I was under the impression and im sure many others were too that 2 inch pipe will not work for big plants in a rdwc system because the pipes will eventually clog up, but according to this guy who is reputable, he uses 2 inch piping in his rdwc and grew 2lbs per bucket...Id guestimate its a 20 gallon bucket at most....

The most valuable lesson I can give you, is to just get started. You are going to refine your methods and process over time. And regardless of what things mathematically say about how many plants you can fit, how big of pipes to use... What works on paper doesn't always translate to real life. And what worked for someone else may not work for you.

In order to do a harvest that maximizes that space, you are going to want to run a mono crop of clones of the same plant so that your canopy is as even as possible. Do you have access to healthy clones? It sounded like you were still deciding on strain so I guess you are going to pop seeds. Unless you get a really stable strain that has little pheno variance, you are going to need to pheno hunt to find the heavy yielder, which could take 2 - 3 cycles on its own. You then need to keep that mother plant healthy until you can take at least one round of cuttings to fill your space.

Different strains, or even phenos of the same strain grow differently, so everything from pot size to how big you need to veg them to get a decent harvest only comes from trying out a strain, see how it grows, try again with adjustments, etc. From my experience its a constant method of refinement and changing things to get it dialed in. If you surveyed 100 people on this site, I would bet at least 98 of them are trying something new this round. Its just the nature of growing herb.

That said, while 3 lbs is a noble goal the first time around, that is a big expectation even for an experienced grower in that space. No doubt you will get there eventually, but I usually suggest to first time growers to at least grow one plant from seed to harvest to cure. Then you can start to get crazy and do larger setups. Take it one step at a time.

It's really no different than any other skill. Would you expect to be a black belt in Karate and win your first competition just because you read some articles and watched some youtube videos? They are excellent resources no doubt, but you gotta put in the time and discipline if you wanna be a champion.

 

[Bukvičák]

Its always good to start with the theory, but real grow is a little bit different. When you get started then you realise and understand a lot of things you have got learnt before. But on the other hand you will also see that not everthing is exactly according to the “theory”. Good luck

 

[indicalover420grower]

The most valuable lesson I can give you, is to just get started. You are going to refine your methods and process over time. And regardless of what things mathematically say about how many plants you can fit, how big of pipes to use... What works on paper doesn't always translate to real life. And what worked for someone else may not work for you.

In order to do a harvest that maximizes that space, you are going to want to run a mono crop of clones of the same plant so that your canopy is as even as possible. Do you have access to healthy clones? It sounded like you were still deciding on strain so I guess you are going to pop seeds. Unless you get a really stable strain that has little pheno variance, you are going to need to pheno hunt to find the heavy yielder, which could take 2 - 3 cycles on its own. You then need to keep that mother plant healthy until you can take at least one round of cuttings to fill your space.

Different strains, or even phenos of the same strain grow differently, so everything from pot size to how big you need to veg them to get a decent harvest only comes from trying out a strain, see how it grows, try again with adjustments, etc. From my experience its a constant method of refinement and changing things to get it dialed in. If you surveyed 100 people on this site, I would bet at least 98 of them are trying something new this round. Its just the nature of growing herb.

That said, while 3 lbs is a noble goal the first time around, that is a big expectation even for an experienced grower in that space. No doubt you will get there eventually, but I usually suggest to first time growers to at least grow one plant from seed to harvest to cure. Then you can start to get crazy and do larger setups. Take it one step at a time.

It's really no different than any other skill. Would you expect to be a black belt in Karate and win your first competition just because you read some articles and watched some youtube videos? They are excellent resources no doubt, but you gotta put in the time and discipline if you wanna be a champion.

Hey thank you I am ambitious sometimes to a fault and it comes across arrogant but I want to actually learn this skill because I enjoy working outside , and being around electronics like the LEDS and building my own , all around I know im going to be doing it for the enjoyment when I get the hang of it I got the work ethic, I know I do. But yeah thanks for the response. I am going to try an fine tune my space first. But yeah Ill update the thread when I get all my stuff shipped(june 4th i should get the last package) And update on the grow

 

[indicalover420grower]

@Bukvičák I forget that sometimes. When I like something I cannot help but keep researching and reading up on it.

 

[Thundercat]

How much actual wattage are you using? And what are you doing for climate control?

If you wanna pull your goal weight you will need to really have enough light and a proper environment.

 

[Bukvičák]

@Bukvičák I forget that sometimes. When I like something I cannot help but keep researching and reading up on it.

My advice is to take your first grow as an experiment and expect less, than you can make yourself surprised. When you expect a lot, it can make you disapointed very easy and its not good for the further grows... Looking forward to your update!

 

[indicalover420grower]

How much actual wattage are you using? And what are you doing for climate control?

If you wanna pull your goal weight you will need to really have enough light and a proper environment.

kingbrite 480 watts and a 240 watt one so 960. I am thinking of getting another light for 4 x 4 coverage with the same uv ir ,cree reds and just put the other 240 watt away or should I use all 3?

 

[indicalover420grower]

My advice is to take your first grow as an experiment and expect less, than you can make yourself surprised. When you expect a lot, it can make you disapointed very easy and its not good for the further grows... Looking forward to your update!

Thank you bro and yeah I am doing it for fun too of course so ill see if I can pull a harvest

 

[ilovereggae]

kingbrite 480 watts and a 240 watt one so 960. I am thinking of getting another light for 4 x 4 coverage with the same uv ir ,cree reds and just put the other 240 watt away or should I use all 3?

Unless I am missing something, 480 + 240 = 720w. You want 30-35w/sf. That is good for 24sf (720/24 = 30), which would be a 4x6' area. So maybe start with that. Might be nice to leave yourself room to get in there to tend to them as well.

If you are going to flower the whole 6x6 space, that is 36 sf. So ideally 1080w total. If you got another 480, taking you to 1200W, you would be at 40 w/sf, which might be a little too much, but you can always dim it down a bit if the plants can't handle it.

 

[indicalover420grower]

Unless I am missing something, 480 + 240 = 720w. You want 30-35w/sf. That is good for 24sf (720/24 = 30), which would be a 4x6' area. So maybe start with that. Might be nice to leave yourself room to get in there to tend to them as well.

If you are going to flower the whole 6x6 space, that is 36 sf. So ideally 1080w total. If you got another 480, taking you to 1200W, you would be at 40 w/sf, which might be a little too much, but you can always dim it down a bit if the plants can't handle it.

Dude I dont know where my heads at lmao yeah your right 720 watts lol. And yeah I see that now, I guess thats another light ill buy. I look at it like an investment., Worst case it pays itself off after 2 or 3 grows because who knows how itll end up. But yeah thanks for the advice and correction.

 

[coreywebster]

720w of those LEDs will cover 4x6, don't forget you need to get in there and 2x6 free space gives you enough room to access a 4x6 canopy.

Unless you have a magic shed where all walls can be removed its just not practical to be able to maintain 6x6 of full plant canopy.

 

[indicalover420grower]

720w of those LEDs will cover 4x6, don't forget you need to get in there and 2x6 free space gives you enough room to access a 4x6 canopy.

Unless you have a magic shed where all walls can be removed its just not practical to be able to maintain 6x6 of full plant canopy.

Oh yeah lol look these are all the different sketches of layout for that problem. I figured the lone drawing allows me the most access.

 

[ilovereggae]

Here's something else to consider. Just noticed you said this was going to be a metal shed you are building. Are you planning to insulate it?

What are you planning for environmental controls (temp/humidity)? Are you going to stick an AC unit in there? You might want to leave space and plan where your power and that stuff will be, and that might help you decide on layout.

 

[indicalover420grower]

yeah bro so im going to just build my own shed still 6 x 8 but with more height (7 feet) . Fuck it ill cancel my shed and besides it gives me something to do until the 4th of june when I get my last package for me to setup the grow. It can be a nice diy guide for someone in the future. If this wasnt on a rental property I would have built a 10 x 16 shed with 8 feet in height.. But I am in a rental so I need to be able to take it apart to so I know someone will benefit from this.

 

[indicalover420grower]

And I can make it to my needs

 

[indicalover420grower]

Good news, my shed order canceled and now I will get the materials and build my own out of wood and insulate it with radiant barrier. It can be a nice DIY guide if anyone wanted to do the same thing.

 

[bk78]

You should concentrate on COMPLETING your first run, other then try and set a weight you think you’ll get.

 

[indicalover420grower]

You should concentrate on COMPLETING your first run, other then try and set a weight you think you’ll get.

Yeah I am taking preventative steps to avoid as much mistake as possible. Like having a digital ppm, ec, tds meter that gives me notifications to my phone if it gets to high or low, my AC infinity fans got the monitors for the temperature and humidity so they can auto adjust, of course ill get another temp and humidity probe to make sure they are accurate. Also I am going to insulate this shed really good so I can control my environment much better...

 

[ilovereggae]

Yeah I am taking preventative steps to avoid as much mistake as possible. Like having a digital ppm, ec, tds meter that gives me notifications to my phone if it gets to high or low, my AC infinity fans got the monitors for the temperature and humidity so they can auto adjust, of course ill get another temp and humidity probe to make sure they are accurate. Also I am going to insulate this shed really good so I can control my environment much better...

Sounds good. Wish I had construction skills and tools to do something like that! Insulating going to help. You still definitely going to need an AC of some kind to cool the space and/or deal with humidity. The AC Infinity fans will help with exhausting stale air, but the room is always going to be minimum whatever ambient temps are. So if it is 80 outside, and your lights adds 10 degrees, the fans are only going to help dissipate some of the heat from your lights, but won't cool the space down.