Probably a stupid Question? but i wont find out till i ask

[jonnylongton]

Risking the fact of being humiliated and have everyone on here roaring with laughter at me which i can take i would just like to ask a question as ive had a mad brain wave.
Can you mix your lighting in the same room. Currently i have 3 x 600 HPS lights. Well i bought a 600Watt LED light to use to put new seeds under.
Well i was thinking, (now try your best not to laugh) but i thought if i bought another LED i could remove the middle one of the 600HPS lights and put 2 1000watt LED lights where that goes. My theory is it would give more light out and also save on the elec at the same time.
Have all the lights in iniform would i benefit from this with more light and get better yields, or dont the two mix together?
I would use all LED but i worry that the room but get to cold , its just reaching max now or around 24/25 degrees.
Now please go easy on me and my mad hair brained idea, im just thinking of how to make things better , im not like all you new guys who get more off one plant than id get off 8 .
Thanks for your patience , and if anything its probably given you a good laugh.
yours respectively "empty head" newbie

 

[.Smoke]

Absolutely you can.
HPS/CMH/T5 UVB.
Figure I might throw in a Led @ some point just for the hell of it
Different light= better spectrum spreads when done correctly.

 

[jonnylongton]

Absolutely you can.
HPS/CMH/T5 UVB.
Figure I might throw in a Led @ some point just for the hell of it
Different light= better spectrum spreads when done correctly.
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Thats brilliant mate, thank you very much. How well your plants look are amazing, and can i just say what a fantastic set up you have. Stunning, hopefully one day i might get there lol.

Thanks for your very valuable advice mate. Peace

 

[It's not oregano]

Just be aware that some ‘600 or 1000w’ leds are not actually pulling anywhere near that. You need to check what they are actually pulling from the wall.

I would hate you to swap a 600 hps for say 2 lights that are only actually pulling 300w or so in total between them, as that would be a backwards step.

 

[coreywebster]

Risking the fact of being humiliated and have everyone on here roaring with laughter at me which i can take i would just like to ask a question as ive had a mad brain wave.
Can you mix your lighting in the same room. Currently i have 3 x 600 HPS lights. Well i bought a 600Watt LED light to use to put new seeds under.
Well i was thinking, (now try your best not to laugh) but i thought if i bought another LED i could remove the middle one of the 600HPS lights and put 2 1000watt LED lights where that goes. My theory is it would give more light out and also save on the elec at the same time.
Have all the lights in iniform would i benefit from this with more light and get better yields, or dont the two mix together?
I would use all LED but i worry that the room but get to cold , its just reaching max now or around 24/25 degrees.
Now please go easy on me and my mad hair brained idea, im just thinking of how to make things better , im not like all you new guys who get more off one plant than id get off 8 .
Thanks for your patience , and if anything its probably given you a good laugh.
yours respectively "empty head" newbie

LEDs are great when your getting more light per watt but many don't put out more. Especially lights called 1000w,2000w ,ect..

Most good LEDs will call themselves what they actually are rather than giving false hope. Literally 99% of lights called "1000w LED" wont be close to replacing a 600w HPS.

 

[Skoal]

Yes! More the merrier.

 

[prpgdad]

it works great i use blurple leds and flourescent leds and cfls kinda simular just all led and i dont see myself doing anything different anymore. the led gives great penetration whereas the flourescent gets good light space same with cfls

 

[kmog33]

I think a lot of facilities are mixing bulbs
/spectrums if not lighting types at this point. I mix cmh in with leds and hps. Does great stuff.

 

[jonnylongton]

Just be aware that some ‘600 or 1000w’ leds are not actually pulling anywhere near that. You need to check what they are actually pulling from the wall.

I would hate you to swap a 600 hps for say 2 lights that are only actually pulling 300w or so in total between them, as that would be a backwards step.

Nice one mate thank you. I really appreciate you looking out for me, but youve got me baffled. How do i know if the LED would only be pulling 300w or so from the wall?
Also how do i check on the item itself, I will go look for a LED light and see if that gives you any indication of how much Watt it actually does give out. Ive also been looking about PARS and to make sure you have a certain amount of them

Thanks again mate greatly appreciated.

 

[jonnylongton]

I think a lot of facilities are mixing bulbs
/spectrums if not lighting types at this point. I mix cmh in with leds and hps. Does great stuff.

Thats great stuff mate.. I will prob put it in the middle off the 2x600hps and do it from end of week 3

 

[jonnylongton]

LEDs are great when your getting more light per watt but many don't put out more. Especially lights called 1000w,2000w ,ect..

Most good LEDs will call themselves what they actually are rather than giving false hope. Literally 99% of lights called "1000w LED" wont be close to replacing a 600w HPS.

Nice one @coreywebster , and thank you. So when looking out for a decent LED what sort would you be looking out for, if the 1000 and 2000 etc dont get near that, would i look out for a 600Watt one? And then how would i know much exactly i would be getting out of that.
Youve done a great post, but you are way to advanced than me, and i think you must of thought you were talking to someone well advanced lol. This is the first grow and even my first look into may adding a bit more light mate. Sorry if i sound a right thicko but im trying take so many different things in my head is cabbaged

 

[jonnylongton]

it works great i use blurple leds and flourescent leds and cfls kinda simular just all led and i dont see myself doing anything different anymore. the led gives great penetration whereas the flourescent gets good light space same with cfls

Excellent bit of info mate. Just hope if i get the b*llocks to do it i dont muck it up

 

[Turbogrow]

Yes definitely, I run LED all the time but have to add HPS in winter instead or heating is on all time like you said. I run the HPS in the middle and LED around it. Think mine are called 1600w but they actually pull 480w (it's been a while since I checked)

I would like to treat myself to some new LED lights as mine are over 4 years old now and things have moved on lots.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Nice one mate thank you. I really appreciate you looking out for me, but youve got me baffled. How do i know if the LED would only be pulling 300w or so from the wall?
Also how do i check on the item itself, I will go look for a LED light and see if that gives you any indication of how much Watt it actually does give out. Ive also been looking about PARS and to make sure you have a certain amount of them

Thanks again mate greatly appreciated.

They should tell you the actual wattage it draws in the description. HLG and Timber always give you the actual watts.

 

[prpgdad]

the best way is to take amps drawn multiplied by vltage to get true wtts. so if it is plugged into a plugin 220 vlts (vltage in electeicity=speed) it will be drawing 110 vlts and if it is drawing 2 amps( amps is wieght in term of electeicity or known as cranking force) it will be 220 wtts( watts is power drawn and thats why we measure your power bills in kwts).

 

[It's not oregano]

Nice one mate thank you. I really appreciate you looking out for me, but youve got me baffled. How do i know if the LED would only be pulling 300w or so from the wall?
Also how do i check on the item itself, I will go look for a LED light and see if that gives you any indication of how much Watt it actually does give out. Ive also been looking about PARS and to make sure you have a certain amount of them

Thanks again mate greatly appreciated.

As @PadawanWarrior mentioned a couple of posts above this one, they should tell you the actual output either on the light or on the website.

The “1000w” claimed versions usually have say 200 diodes capable of 5w max each, (200 x5 =1000) but the makers set the light up to only actually run at 1w each as they would burn out too quickly otherwise. This is what we are meaning that you might only be pulling 200w not 1000w as you expected.

It is a bit like saying my car ‘could’ do thousands of miles an hour, if strapped to a rocket, but in reality it is nowhere near that (unless my speed freak wife is driving lol)

The better manufacturers will always state exactly what it is pulling, not what it ‘could’ do. Usually lights that are known as ‘blurples’ that give a red/blue/purple light out rather than white are the ones who make claims they don’t deliver.

If you can’t see an output on your lights, but can get hold of a plug in power meter (uk) or a kill-a-watt (usa) you can plug your light in and see exactly what it is using without having to do any maths.

 

[jonnylongton]

Yes definitely, I run LED all the time but have to add HPS in winter instead or heating is on all time like you said. I run the HPS in the middle and LED around it. Think mine are called 1600w but they actually pull 480w (it's been a while since I checked)

I would like to treat myself to some new LED lights as mine are over 4 years old now and things have moved on lots.

Nice one thank you very much mate, looks like this is the way to go though.

 

[jonnylongton]

the best way is to take amps drawn multiplied by vltage to get true wtts. so if it is plugged into a plugin 220 vlts (vltage in electeicity=speed) it will be drawing 110 vlts and if it is drawing 2 amps( amps is wieght in term of electeicity or known as cranking force) it will be 220 wtts( watts is power drawn and thats why we measure your power bills in kwts).

Can you write that in English mate lol. Ive never been no good at reading the elec meter and the meanings of volts and amps and watts, i guess its time to learn. Thank you very much my friend.

 

[jonnylongton]

As @PadawanWarrior mentioned a couple of posts above this one, they should tell you the actual output either on the light or on the website.

The “1000w” claimed versions usually have say 200 diodes capable of 5w max each, (200 x5 =1000) but the makers set the light up to only actually run at 1w each as they would burn out too quickly otherwise. This is what we are meaning that you might only be pulling 200w not 1000w as you expected.

It is a bit like saying my car ‘could’ do thousands of miles an hour, if strapped to a rocket, but in reality it is nowhere near that (unless my speed freak wife is driving lol)

The better manufacturers will always state exactly what it is pulling, not what it ‘could’ do. Usually lights that are known as ‘blurples’ that give a red/blue/purple light out rather than white are the ones who make claims they don’t deliver.

If you can’t see an output on your lights, but can get hold of a plug in power meter (uk) or a kill-a-watt (usa) you can plug your light in and see exactly what it is using without having to do any maths.

Thank you so much for going to so much trouble mate. i get what you are saying, its just down to me to work out how to actually read and work out how much they are giving out. Really appreciate all the trouble you have gone to mate

 

[jonnylongton]

They should tell you the actual wattage it draws in the description. HLG and Timber always give you the actual watts.

I will look out for those 2 mate. Ive looked on the one i bought which was suggested by some good person on here, but nowhere can i find where it tells you any such information