The Chinese Quantum Board Knock Off Builds

Rocket Soul

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Kb/ Jerry meng has been stand up with forumers since quite some time, im glad you got it sorted. Ive dealt with vicky myslef and been happy with the contact.

Rita Fang / meijiu has also been cool with me and more but also been shitty to some.
 

bigmikey86

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One last post just to say Kingbrite did the right thing and got my refund resolved in a nice and timely manner. Good on them and because of this I'll probably give them another shot in the future. Sucks that it's gonna take 10 days for the bread to get back in my account but shit happens and at least I'm not stuck waiting.
Good to hear that they honoured the refund policy. To be honest, putting myself in there shoes, I’d be worried about order cancelations due to the fear mongering supplied by the good old media outlets. You may see some discounted prices on Ali in the future if this outbreak keeps up. They will definitely take a hit in the pocket book over all this.
 

bigmikey86

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Its also worth noting that this is mainly in Wunan province which (i think?) isnt really where most of the ali vendors are located.
Wuhan is actually in Hubei province and all these LED companies are in Quangdong province (Shenzhen city) with Hunan province in between the two. Mainland China has closed it Hong Kong borders to the mainland, I think this is the shipping issue. All packages from Ali are shipped out of Hong Kong via Air freight. Closed borders will certainly cause some shipping delays.
 

bigmikey86

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Just heard on the news that the Chinese government has extended the lunar holiday well into February to try to contain the outbreak. This is most likely the reason for shipping delays off Ali. There’s nobody working to process the shipments.
 

shimbob

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Will this cord work after I cut the IEC320 end off? Can't find any bare cable 12' cords and I'm sick of looking already.
Can you find what you're looking for here:
If they ain't got it it doesn't exist
 

maddmango

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Long time no post, someone mentioned migro's channel and if a Chinese company was ballsy enough to send over a review model. I asked alwen from Bavagreen to send one out and it was reviewed and outperformed the spider light. I was able to get my lights in Pakistan and had to pay $145 custom tax and duties but the lights are well worth it. HLG is a good option if your state side and if u need something right away digikey is viable options especially since I have a quote for 5.6 for the 2 foot gen 3 strips. At the end of the day it boiled down to cost and bava made sense to me, so much sense that I tried to place another order last week and was told that shipping will be delayed until the quarantine is lifted. They were honest so points for that and the units are well built without an issue in sight. Will be setting them up this week since I defoliated and took some clones last week. If ur looking for simplicity and well built units out the box without the DIY hustle then I would highly recommend them and wait til things work out.
 

Barristan Whitebeard

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Went with 4 of these in 4k for now and got 4 hlg-120-54a drivers, wagos and cord connectors off Amazon. Then got 4 RapidLED potentiometers now I'm just trying to find 12' cords and I'm set until I get closer to flower then I'm probably gonna add another 3 or 4 of this size in 3k. Hopefully this stupid virus shit has blown over by then so I can save a few bucks. All said I done it would have been around 160 dollars cheaper to just wait on the China boards but I'm the epitome of an impatient American so fuck it. To make myself feel better I'm trying to convince myself that at least now I'll know for sure that I'll be getting the new lm301h diodes because a Canadian company would never do ya wrong eh.
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The HLG-120H-54A has internal current and voltage adjustment. The potentiometer is for the B/AB drivers, not the A models.
 

Rocket Soul

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They should work fine for hlg boards its just that you cannot put an external dimmer on them. Voltage dimming is not really something you need with these drivers since they are for 1 board and wont be abke to give more than the board cab take.

AB dimmers are ideal, onboard and off board dimming.
 

borban72

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Hi! I'm newbie with QBs....I need some experienced advice on the new KB 480 w set with QB272 PCB: 3.0/W conductivity, 2OZ copper thickness but only 4mm thick heatsink ( 240 W unit has 10 mm thick heatsink) .. so the 480 W QB272 now has 1024 pcs of LM301H (either 3000K or 3500K) + 40 Cree Xpe 2 660 + 16 pcs Cree 730 + LG UV... the QB288 was not separately switchable Reds and had no IR and UV but had 1008 LM301H + 144 Cree 660 Reds ... ahaghhg .... this is driving me crazy ... need to set up a 6"x7" flowering room ... controling strech is in the focus and durability that might correlate with good thick heatsink .... for vegging KB suggested theh same QB272 swithchable reds and UV but with 4000k H301H .... your input will be greatly appreciated on what to pull the trigger
 
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maddmango

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They should work fine for hlg boards its just that you cannot put an external dimmer on them. Voltage dimming is not really something you need with these drivers since they are for 1 board and wont be abke to give more than the board cab take.

AB dimmers are ideal, onboard and off board dimming.
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So they won't work then? That sucks...
Since you will be powering one board per driver you really don't need the dimmer which means you can spread out the boards for better light distribution. I have a 240-watt driver with separate heat sinks and have to connect them via a long wire to one another which can be a pain when adjusting the lights because the wire has a desi/ghetto joint in the middle. one driver per light means more driver but it also means more control so you will be just fine. Get yourself a multimeter if you want to mess around with the onboard voltage and current adjustments so you don't overpower them but then again it's just simpler to leave them as is. This 240watt driver and a cheap 75-watt purple cob were more than enough for a veg room of 7.5X3.5 feet with 11 plants. The flowering room will have 960+ watts (including 200 watts of blurpile) in a 6X6.

Based on your concerns it would be better if you could wait and get the Bava light because everything is set to go out the box with no adjustments on your end. That is why I choose Bava even though I paid $50 more per light when compared to Meiju and KB which was for the simplicity factor. I thought about DIY with BXEB Gen3 but then I would pay customs on the drivers and led at the full retail price and then source build materials and the Bava board were just cheaper when I factored everything in.

You Have Digikey, HLG, and Ali Baba (Unavailable at this moment) to select from, you can build it yourself from scratch, order a something where you have to just connect the drivers and board or purchase something completely assembled.
 

Barristan Whitebeard

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Hi! I need some experienced advice on the new KB 480 w set with QB272 PCB: 3.0/W conductivity, 2OZ copper thickness but only 4mm thick heatsink ( 240 W unit has 10 mm thick heatsink) .. so the 480 W QB272 now has 1024 pcs of LM301H (either 3000K or 3500K) + 40 Cree Xpe 2 660 + 16 pcs Cree 730 + LG ... the QB288 was not separately switchable Reds and UV but had 1008 LM301H + 144 Cree 660 Reds ... ahaghhg .... this is driving me crazy ... need to set up a 6"x7" flowering room ... controling strech is in the focus and durability that might correlate with good thick heatsink .... for vegging KB suggested theh same QB272 swithchable reds and UV but with 4000k H301H .... your input will be greatly appreciated on what to pull the trigger
Are you sure the second option isn't made with Epistar deep red diodes? A lot of the Samsung/Epistar board combinations use 252 LM301B/LM301H diodes and 36 Epistar 660nm diodes. Usually the more expensive Cree diodes are utilized in smaller numbers. I would be concerned with excessive stretch if you decide on the second option.
 

bigmikey86

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Hi! I need some experienced advice on the new KB 480 w set with QB272 PCB: 3.0/W conductivity, 2OZ copper thickness but only 4mm thick heatsink ( 240 W unit has 10 mm thick heatsink) .. so the 480 W QB272 now has 1024 pcs of LM301H (either 3000K or 3500K) + 40 Cree Xpe 2 660 + 16 pcs Cree 730 + LG ... the QB288 was not separately switchable Reds and UV but had 1008 LM301H + 144 Cree 660 Reds ... ahaghhg .... this is driving me crazy ... need to set up a 6"x7" flowering room ... controling strech is in the focus and durability that might correlate with good thick heatsink .... for vegging KB suggested theh same QB272 swithchable reds and UV but with 4000k H301H .... your input will be greatly appreciated on what to pull the trigger
It’s definitely hard to pull the trigger on which configuration to go on. I was looking at the qb272 as well but decided against it due to the fact that a tiny mechanical switch can easily break if used aggressively or simply too many times. Which at that point would leave you in a situation, depending whether the switch broke in it’s on or off position or failed entirely for that matter. If you’re concerned with controlling the additional spectrums, I’d suggest purchasing the qb288 boards with all 301b/h and purchasing the qb11 strips to supplement. They come in 450nm 630nm 660nm 730nm. One qb11 covers a 2x2 area, 20w max a piece, all you would need to do is select the proper driver and spectrums you want.
 

Rocket Soul

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If youre worried about stretch: get 3500k and use the uv switch in vegg. 4mm heatsink: like standard 550 clone. 10mm heatsink: it would be 10 with the fins. Dont worry too much about the options. Keep calm, carry on, and grow some weed.

The space and spread in generall: 480s arent ideal, better off with more singles or doubles. You need about 1200-1300 watts for that space. Maybe 6 doubles, slightly dimmed would be better and cheaper as i can not make that space work with less than 4 x 480s and thats a fair bit of over kill but would work aswell. Price out the options.

But as stated here several times: the red+uv boards arent allways ideal, both in price and spread: personally i prefer white boards (in 90 cri if possible but they almost never have) and then add some red and blue/uv strips, that way you can adjust independently and also do end of day treatment with far reds/IR. Also, building part of it yourself, getting spread and framing right for your space gives you a much better sense of accomplishment. Its scary but all of us had to dive in the first time.

If you really care about growing like a pro get High lights, sponsors here on the forum. I can almost guarantee they will do better than any baba board. They beat out hlg, but you might have to get some extra blue for anti stretch in veg.
 

maddmango

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Hi! I need some experienced advice on the new KB 480 w set with QB272 PCB: 3.0/W conductivity, 2OZ copper thickness but only 4mm thick heatsink ( 240 W unit has 10 mm thick heatsink) .. so the 480 W QB272 now has 1024 pcs of LM301H (either 3000K or 3500K) + 40 Cree Xpe 2 660 + 16 pcs Cree 730 + LG ... the QB288 was not separately switchable Reds and UV but had 1008 LM301H + 144 Cree 660 Reds ... ahaghhg .... this is driving me crazy ... need to set up a 6"x7" flowering room ... controling strech is in the focus and durability that might correlate with good thick heatsink .... for vegging KB suggested theh same QB272 swithchable reds and UV but with 4000k H301H .... your input will be greatly appreciated on what to pull the trigger
So the heatsink on the Bava board is 26mm which is 2.6CM which translates to 1.06 inches, you will have full control over the far red, deep red and UV to dial in your grow. The hard part is to figure out if you want individual units or a 720 watt kit which can daisy chains together and comes with a rail to align the boards. I choose to go individual so I have control over the light placement and can go fill up the room or just a portion. Pick up 5 240 watt units and ask for a discount from either Alwen or Jevon and tell them a friend from Pakistan sent you.

 
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