Why are so many new growers choosing blurple/led over hps/mh??

[christopher jordan]

I am totally new. However this anecdotal bit of evidence has me convinced hps is better than burples.

I was trying to germinate my first seeds under burple, taking ages, nothing was happening. I moved the cube hole with a pin and looked at the seeds, nothing had happened.

Took the burple my mate gave me down put my hps up. All of the seeds have shot out and are climbing high.

I know that isnt very scientific, but meh, the hps seems better to me.

40% less efficient is not better.

 

[christopher jordan]

I get it. That'

It became less a grow and show and more an led troll site because of you lot, i stepped up to troll you back and do a stella job if your asking pics but offering fuck all but led hype

That's why you endlessly troll led.

 

[christopher jordan]

So the science jsnt implrtant and leds dont base everything on them...?

Who.needs to use leds to clearly see their claims have never stacked up and they are still struggling with spectrum?

I mean wouldnt it be obvious if leds were what these fools say but no i guess you need crayon diagrams and pics before you attempt the science.

Pretty well educated here so i can nust beat down with words but how the fuck am i such a long term poster with no grow over many years mr science guy.

You get shit right and we will go back to what i did best before all tbis bs industry fucked what were harcore knowledgable grow sites....

Deal or you just wanna troll? Personally few have hit a level.of grow id be imoressed with and rooms of plants dont mean much, take one plant and detail that as i have done a hundred times....

The only struggle here is yours. I'll beat your ass with 600W led vs 1000hps. Go ahead bro science.

 

[OldMedUser]

Another f'n thread shot to sit with BS.

 

[m99smith]

It means he started w blurple and he is doing well
Is this ok? Most of us started w blurple and can't afford to switch yet . I don't use them anymore but I do remember growing good bud w them.

And what do you mean you can't afford to switch yet I had 2 blurple Aglex 1200w from a friend they are 215 from the wall they were around 300 each last time I checked and I got some good Cree cobs lights for 200$ with a 2 year warranty and they pull 250w from the wall. Got a better light for 100$ less then the Aglex and you can get individual cobs for like 30$-50$ each

 

[christopher jordan]

Blu

I'm useing viparspectra tc900 and I'm doing good first time ever having a flowering plant so this will be my first harvest RQS diesel auto is the strain dont mind the dead plants in the back ground been busy over holidays at work was growing herbs too but I stop caring for them haven't cleaned them out yet but for my first ever harvest I think I'm doing good View attachment 4443179View attachment 4443180

What's the cost on the fan and air-cooled hood? Plus the replacement of those air-cooled hoods those don't come for free those costs have to be factored in it could probably double the cost of running hps vs the cheapest hood available... I was really hoping someone would try to say this I love when hps guys try to act like all this extra stuff is free. Oh yeah also how many watts is the fan that has to be added to use the light? Maybe like 100w? You can go ahead an add that onto the power draw of the lights before figuring out gpw that 100w of air cooling is already almost an 10 percent increase of the original wattage of that light

Ya plus the 10% degradation factor, and the 10% loss through the glass, Hps starts to look like shit compared to decent led.

 

[Sfrigon 1]

And what do you mean you can't afford to switch yet I had 2 blurple Aglex 1200w from a friend they are 215 from the wall they were around 300 each last time I checked and I got some good Cree cobs lights for 200$ with a 2 year warranty and they pull 250w from the wall. Got a better light for 100$ less then the Aglex and you can get individual cobs for like 30$-50$ each

Jeez man . I agree w u ! Lol. Not trying to argue. The kid uses blurple and does well . Not much more to it .

 

[Sfrigon 1]

And what do you mean you can't afford to switch yet I had 2 blurple Aglex 1200w from a friend they are 215 from the wall they were around 300 each last time I checked and I got some good Cree cobs lights for 200$ with a 2 year warranty and they pull 250w from the wall. Got a better light for 100$ less then the Aglex and you can get individual cobs for like 30$-50$ each

Can't afford means he doesn't have the money to pay for it . That's all

 

[m99smith]

Jeez man . I agree w u ! Lol. Not trying to argue. The kid uses blurple and does well . Not much more to it .

Yeah no doubt. Im not saying you cant grow good bud under a blurple. You totally can but if you were to take two cuttings from the same plant and grow one under a blurple and one under cobs the cobs will do better pluse the light from the blurples fuck with your eyes everything has a green tint when you leave a room with blurples

 

[christopher jordan]

Another f'n thread shot to sit with BS.

Put up or shut up! And take your little fan boy frig with you.

 

[christopher jordan]

Cali Lightworks in a commercial setting will recoup their cost over hps just in electricity to the lighting units before their 5 year warranties expire. Not to mention the thc, cbd, terpene profiles are much stronger under led and much easier for an indoor grower who doesn’t want supplemental co2/ac. Cheers

Cali light works are a joke. Lm/w? Old diodes, terrible light spread, and control you don't need. Huge price and the thing needs active cooling. Not a luxury.

 

[curious2garden]

The only struggle here is yours. I'll beat your ass with 600W led vs 1000hps. Go ahead bro science.

kingrow1 requested a ban and is no longer with us.
PS Hust17 is also no longer with us.

 

[OldMedUser]

Put up or shut up! And take your little fan boy frig with you.

frig?

I don't play little boy growing games. I rock my plants with full on HID rays and have for 40+ years.

You're the little fan boi Chrissy so kiss my rosy red rectum!

 

[Sfrigon 1]

frig?

I don't play little boy growing games. I rock my plants with full on HID rays and have for 40+ years.

You're the little fan boi Chrissy so kiss my rosy red rectum! View attachment 4468437

Yeah I use high pressure sodium

 

[m99smith]

frig?

I don't play little boy growing games. I rock my plants with full on HID rays and have for 40+ years.

You're the little fan boi Chrissy so kiss my rosy red rectum! View attachment 4468437

Have you used anything other then HID

 

[curious2garden]

Another f'n thread shot to sit with BS.

This is some of the reason I'm stilling running MH/HPS. Every time I start to seriously consider LED tech the threads inform me I should wait. My results are ok with traditional tech and I see a lot of people growing great weed with most lights. So I'll wait as the tech improves and more Universities start researching light effects both inside and outside the McCree Curve on Cannabis. Dr. Bugbee's video this month was a breath of fresh air.

Edited to add a link to the video. I highly recommend it

 

[christopher jordan]

I never mentioned "science", you did. I asked you nicely for it beforehand and you ignored the request.

Have you used led before?
Air-conditioning isn't a luxury i personally have. Went with hps myself after using led, because i was using extra watts to heat my space. Hps i don't, for the same amount of energy. Fyi it's still too hot most summer without aircon regardless.
Power is 37c/kwh for me, saves me hundreds a bill. If I was using aircon during summer, it would only add up to more.
Most LED's have a heat sink as well.

You make bold claims and mention science, so where is the data? Studies, watt for watt comparisons, temps, operating temperature, PAR output etc.
I have none of this, only what i've experienced first hand. So i'm politely asking you to show the science, because you made me curious when you mentioned it, and I thought i might learn something new.

Every grower's needs are different, light included.

Lights are lights and heat is the same watt for watt regardless.

 

[Brettman]

What happened to Hust?

 

[christopher jordan]

This is some of the reason I'm stilling running MH/HPS. Every time I start to seriously consider LED tech the threads inform me I should wait. My results are ok with traditional tech and I see a lot of people growing great weed with most lights. So I'll wait as the tech improves and more Universities start researching light effects both inside and outside the McCree Curve on Cannabis. Dr. Bugbee's video this month was a breath of fresh air.

Bugbee says led are way better. I don't know what your waiting for.

 

[m99smith]

This is some of the reason I'm stilling running MH/HPS. Every time I start to seriously consider LED tech the threads inform me I should wait. My results are ok with traditional tech and I see a lot of people growing great weed with most lights. So I'll wait as the tech improves and more Universities start researching light effects outside the McCree Curve on Cannabis. Dr. Bugbee's video this month was a breath of fresh air.

Yeah there is a lot of bullshit out there about leds that's why so many people think they are garbage but if you actually know what your looking at then you can grow just as good bud with all types of lights I would say HPS is easier to dial in then led. it really all depends on what works for you. There is no one style of light is better then the other.