Why are so many new growers choosing blurple/led over hps/mh??

Chip Green

Chip Green

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Old Newb said:
I chose an LED bank that is rated at the same lumens output as a 300 watt incandescent light source. I chose it because it is more efficient at generating that output, while only consuming about 130 watts from the wall.
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This right here, should clarify a watt is a watt.
You have a 130 watt LED, producing the same lumens as 300W of incandescent.
If you ran 300 actual watts, of those LED, you will have a comparable amount of heat, to the 300W of incandescent, only producing over double the lumens.
 
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Old Newb

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Chip Green said:
This right here, should clarify a watt is a watt.
You have a 130 watt LED, producing the same lumens as 300W of incandescent.
If you ran 300 actual watts, of those LED, you will have a comparable amount of heat, to the 300W of incandescent, only producing over double the lumens.
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Exactly. Unless the OP is actually needing the heat, then I see little reason to use something that is less efficient. Am I missing something here? Is there something different about these blue/purple LED's that simply don't produce the required lumens? If so, then I can understand why people would shun them, or at least call out their purported luminosity rating(s).
 
Powertech

Powertech

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I want to start making my own concentrates though so I really need about double what I consume in flower for that, so if I could get 3 lbs combined from the 8 plants I have going now I'll be ecstatic, but i'll take another 713g to get me by till next round
 
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Fevs.

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Hust17 said:
Damn son worried about being busted and runs 7 tents :clap:
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Yeah it does seem a bit silly, but when I had 2 or 3 I still worried a bit. Tbh looking at it all I really don't need 7 tents. They are only 3ft x 3ft. Kind of spreads to heat around nicely without all the heat being in one room. I have recently switched from soil to coco too and never expected such a difference in yield.
 
Powertech

Powertech

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Old Newb said:
Exactly. Unless the OP is actually needing the heat, then I see little reason to use something that is less efficient. Am I missing something here?
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No you aren't, some people just don't think new technology is better. Kind of like old people saying a record has better sound quality
 
Powertech

Powertech

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Fevs. said:
Yeah it does seem a bit silly, but when I had 2 or 3 I still worried a bit. Tbh looking at it all I really don't need 7 tents. They are only 3ft x 3ft. Kind of spreads to heat around nicely without all the heat being in one room. I have recently switched from soil to coco too and never expected such a difference in yield.
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I plan on trying my hand at coco, but thought I should get the hang of soil first as it seems the easiest and most forgiving, not to mention the least time consuming
 
.Smoke

.Smoke

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Old Newb said:
Exactly. Unless the OP is actually needing the heat, then I see little reason to use something that is less efficient. Am I missing something here?
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What my original question was basically based on was,

As a new grower, what made you choose blurple/led over HPS considering for the cost you can get more bang for your buck with HPS and it seems the grow style with them is much easier. (Not having to worry about supplementing IR or having to keep your grow room like a tropical jungle)?

Somewhere along the line we got a bit side tracked... :)
 
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Old Newb

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.Smoke said:
What my original question was basically based on was,

As a new grower, what made you choose blurple/led over HPS considering for the cost you can get more bang for your buck with HPS and it seems the grow style with them is much easier. (Not having to worry about supplementing IR or having to keep your grow room like a tropical jungle)?

Somewhere along the line we got a bit side tracked... :)
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Ah, that's cool. I understand. I guess I was referencing some of the responses you received relating to 'a watt is a watt'. Sorry if I misunderstood things.
 
Boatguy

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.Smoke said:
What my original question was basically based on was,

As a new grower, what made you choose blurple/led over HPS considering for the cost you can get more bang for your buck with HPS and it seems the grow style with them is much easier. (Not having to worry about supplementing IR ir having to keep your grow room like a tropical jungle)?

Somewhere along the line we got a bit side tracked... :)
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I will try.. Never used an hid.
Started with a "blurple" in a mini grow, and just never tried anything else.
I did buy an 150 sun system hps, but it didnt work out for the cab, so i gave it away.
Too much headroom lost was my reason
 
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Old Newb

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.Smoke said:
What my original question was basically based on was,

As a new grower, what made you choose blurple/led over HPS considering for the cost you can get more bang for your buck with HPS and it seems the grow style with them is much easier. (Not having to worry about supplementing IR or having to keep your grow room like a tropical jungle)?

Somewhere along the line we got a bit side tracked... :)
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I'd like to give you a thumbs up but I can't seem to find where to do that....
 
Powertech

Powertech

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.Smoke said:
What my original question was basically based on was,

As a new grower, what made you choose blurple/led over HPS considering for the cost you can get more bang for your buck with HPS and it seems the grow style with them is much easier. (Not having to worry about supplementing IR or having to keep your grow room like a tropical jungle)?

Somewhere along the line we got a bit side tracked... :)
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Holy crap there was a question here...sorry OP

When I got my first light to start growing I did not really know what I was buying, and actually I did not buy it but I selected what I wanted. I got this over MH/HPS because MH/HPS is not as efficient and takes up a whole lot more space, often requires its own vent system which is just stupid, that alone should show you how much energy you are just wasting, they often cost the same yet last nowhere near as long, 1000W MH/HPS compared to 1000W actual draw of LED is no contest, that's why people usually compare less LED watts to more HPS watts, ie 600W LED to 1000W HPS

Then i realized later that even though what i got was great, there was even better so i got some QB's
 
Powertech

Powertech

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I also worked in industrial electrical, and have changed too many bulbs ballasts and fixtures to count, not doing that crap at home too
 
Clumpyoyster

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Powertech said:
Holy crap there was a question here...sorry OP

When I got my first light to start growing I did not really know what I was buying, and actually I did not buy it but I selected what I wanted. I got this over MH/HPS because MH/HPS is not as efficient and takes up a whole lot more space, often requires its own vent system which is just stupid, that alone should show you how much energy you are just wasting, they often cost the same yet last nowhere near as long, 1000W MH/HPS compared to 1000W actual draw of LED is no contest, that's why people usually compare less LED watts to more HPS watts, ie 600W LED to 1000W HPS

Then i realized later that even though what i got was great, there was even better so i got some QB's
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Whats your dollar amount you got invested in the four qbs?
 
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