Your cannabis movements are being tracked… and there’s nothing you can do about it

CalyxCrusher

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Canada’s cannabis industry comes of age, joining others that trace your each and every move



By Nicholas Sokic

November 5, 2019

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Canadian intelligence company launches a beta trial for its new AI platform that will gather information about cannabis consumers both before and after purchase

Canadian intelligence company launches a beta trial for its new AI platform that will gather information about cannabis consumers both before and after purchase



In the modern age, most of our purchases are tracked by apps, smart home devices like Alexa, and social media, to name a few.

Prior to the Canada’s relatively recent cannabis legalization, consumers only had to worry about government surveillance. Now, however, the cannabis industry joins the rest of the world in having their purchasing habits monitored.
Ontario-based GroundLevel Insights, a Canadian intelligence company, has recently launched a beta trial for its new AI platform that will gather information about cannabis consumers both before and after purchase. The entities taking part in the beta include licensed producers, retail and medical clinics, government and regulatory bodies, market research companies and advertising agencies. The data will be utilized by industry stakeholders to identify audience patterns.
The commercial version of the platform is currently scheduled to launch in early December, around the time of the MJBizCon.
GroundLevel will use first- and third-party information. The former means data it collects itself through consumers’ phones coming into contact with WiFi or Bluetooth devices at clinics and dispensaries, while the latter applies to data from mobile operators like AT&T or Verizon, as well as the “about five or six hundred major apps,” social media usage and Google Maps.


“What we’re doing is leveraging movement science data on the movement of the cannabis consumer and aggregating these data sets into a single AI platform that then analyzes that data and provides insights and competitive intelligence,” said Asif Khan, CEO of GroundLevel Insights.
This platform will, like most other forms of data collection, not be a voluntary one for the consumer. For a group of consumers often reluctant to share even their credit card information for legal purchases, this could prove troubling to some.

Individuals would need to withdraw from every major app and network to opt out
“Short of the consumer personally withdrawing themselves from every major app on the planet and every major network, that’s the only way they opt out,” said Khan. “And, quite frankly, this kind of data collection exists with or without our company.”
Khan stressed that the company won’t have any specific information on the individual consumer, citing a typical example of the kind of datapoint that might emerge from this platform as, “out of everyone that visited the store today, 18 percent of them went to Home Depot afterwards.”

For social media, he said the platform can show a business what the conversation about its store looks like within a certain radius. It can also show stores how many of its customers are first-timers as opposed to repeats.

Consistent behaviour over periods of time could open up the possibility of cross-promotional marketing campaigns / Photo: undefined undefined / iStock / Getty Images Plus
While Khan said there are hundreds of different categories of businesses shown for pre- and post-cannabis purchase, the platform will aggregate the top five businesses visited before and after.
“Over periods of time, you may notice consistent behaviour and you may want to reach out to those businesses and work on cross-promotional marketing campaigns or things like that,” said Khan. “In a market like cannabis, [this data] is still new and emerging and the whole point of our platform is to provide that data and enable better business decisions,” he said.
The platform will monitor both the legal and illegal cannabis purchases, and so Khan said there is a potential for collaboration with government. “If we see licensed operators, we can see they’re going to illegal operators and we can provide that data to help track them down.”




Let's not forget you don't need to actually go into the store or clinic to pick up the WiFi signal. This is much more sinister given the statement in the last paragraph I highlighted and the statement about opting out of every app on the planet for it to effectively not be able to track you. Seems unlawful to use data you collected on peoples movement to eliminate your competition. Always leave your WiFi and Bluetooth off when you leave home.
 

gb123

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I wanna know who and why anyone would pay for this? ....its less than 10 percent of who buys dope now anyway...lol the rest grow their own
 

GanjaFarmerCoop

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This is the cornerstone of why we built our system the way we did.
Tracking data on consumers is not just an issue for the legal stores, but also for MOMs that get busted or hacked and lose their data, including order history on all their customers.

Consumer data has a massive price tag.
If an LP is willing to spend $500 + residuals for a clinic to sign them new patients, you have to imagine they're also willing to buy consumer data that helps them better spend their advertising and solicitation dollars.

I've seen what an LP is willing to pay to purchase a list of just 1000 customers and their contact information/address.
Just knowing that they've purchased cannabis at least once makes them worth quite a bit.
If you're willing to sell your brand with it, they'll pay extra so they can email your customers as YOU and recommend their services.

Obviously you tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine, but there are many that take the buy out.
 

gb123

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10 percent of a market is nothing to go by...
Any info they get is NOT the way this market even works.
So its SHIT info as far as I see it a complete waste of their money time and effort.
and Your point?!
 

GanjaFarmerCoop

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10 percent of a market is nothing to go by...
Any info they get is NOT the way this market even works.
So its SHIT info as far as I see it a complete waste of their money time and effort.
and Your point?!
The point is that more operations, legal and illegal, are starting to collect this data because they can sell it.
 

CalyxCrusher

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We live in the information age. Companies routinely collect and sell your data. Facebook being the worst of the bunch. This isn't about them wasting money for such a small percentage of their customer base. It's about the underhanded ways they use to collect that data to begin with.
 
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GanjaFarmerCoop

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Bluetooth is the single worst data miner on any phone....wifi a close 2nd!
It's at the point now where Wifi is worse than bluetooth, because wifi polls for routers and access points all over the place.
Google used their street view cars to capture the location of millions of routers and access points, so now even when your location is turned off, if your wifi sees router ABCD-1234 and access point AP-3821 it knows you are inbetween McDonalds and Wendy's, even though you never consented to them collecting that data.

They also use apps like Angry Birds, that free todo list you love, etc to track this data, as almost every app has permission to use Wifi.
 

cannadan

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it would seem as if all movements can be tracked via wifi pretty much everywhere you go....
try driving thru a sub division of houses while surfing something on an iphone and you will see just about everyone of those wifi signals
as available but on locked networks...
What it boils down to is we can all be tracked by these items....but is there any need to track an one individual?
Sure.... I would say in some cases and I'm sure the law/police use this info often....since its at their disposal.....
but otherwise it would mostly be used to target you as a consumer...in an effort to attract your attention, to something stats say you might like or would be willing to buy....
 

CalyxCrusher

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Given the poor sales for LPs since they're inception and the fact this clown mentions they could use the information collected from people going to illegal dispensaries to give to law enforcement it's not hard to see this is just another tool for LPs to weed out their competitors in the BM.

To think, if they put 1% of the effort they have towards all the ridiculous shit they're trying in order to make a profit towards growing a better product they might have made some money by not. Talk about not seeing the forest through the trees. It's hilarious to watch due to how painfully obvious the solution has ALWAYS been.
 

WHATFG

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Khan stressed that the company won’t have any specific information on the individual consumer, citing a typical example of the kind of datapoint that might emerge from this platform as, “out of everyone that visited the store today, 18 percent of them went to Home Depot afterwards.”
Why in the fuck would that be important?....I'm calling bullshit...
 

gb123

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Why in the fuck would that be important?....I'm calling bullshit...
CRA is going after Home depot users who do commercial work..:lol: who the fuck knows.
.but its all from FUCK NOSES who wantt his info anyway..the ones who stick their fucking nose into everyone else's business.
 

CalyxCrusher

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Why in the fuck would that be important?....I'm calling bullshit...
For those who didn't know you can log in to your Google account and see they have a layover on Google maps of every place your been with your phone. All layed out in a nice route of tracked information. Oh and and it was found out about a year ago that turning off location tracking doesn't change this.
 
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