Return of the spider mites
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xtsho
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I recently found some mites after years of growing mite free. They were on some long flowering sativa's that had been flowering for months. They were too far along to spray with anything. As much as I hated to do it I cut them down after months of growing and did a complete cleaning of the grow tent, the room it was in, and the rest of the house. I even took all my houseplants outside and sprayed them. I'm not playing around. I'll chop an entire crop six weeks into flower if I have to. Complete eradication on sight is the way I roll. But I have so many jars of stash that I can miss a grow and not worry about it. But losing the Old Timers Haze after so many months of growing made me sick but had to be done.
OldMedUser
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I would have taken a couple cuttings first then kept them in quarantine until I was sure they were clean.
Hate losing one of the greats.
You got a lot more to lose tho so I can see why you go go to extremes to protect your investment.
I seem to have got rid of my mites finally. Been more than a month now and I still do a really good hunt every couple of days and haven't found a one. Knock wood!
New Age United
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A month lol, I've had a spidermite problem in my room for 7 months now, gonna shut er down for the summer, any advice on how to get rid of em?I would have taken a couple cuttings first then kept them in quarantine until I was sure they were clean.
Hate losing one of the greats.
You got a lot more to lose tho so I can see why you go go to extremes to protect your investment.
I seem to have got rid of my mites finally. Been more than a month now and I still do a really good hunt every couple of days and haven't found a one. Knock wood!
xtsho
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I would have taken a couple cuttings first then kept them in quarantine until I was sure they were clean.
Hate losing one of the greats.
You got a lot more to lose tho so I can see why you go go to extremes to protect your investment.
I seem to have got rid of my mites finally. Been more than a month now and I still do a really good hunt every couple of days and haven't found a one. Knock wood!
I thought about taking cuttings but because they had been flowering so long the branches that I pollinated early on already had fully developed seeds. I started with five seeds now I have a couple hundred. So I still have the strain. I would like to have some smokeable OTH but it just didn't work out. I made butter with the plants so I got something out of them. My main goal was to make more seeds of the strain and I accomplished that. But it sure would be nice to be smoking some of that sativa right now. Such is life.
OldMedUser
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I got mine from some plants a buddy gave me and because I didn't stick to a strict treatment schedule I never managed to get rid of them completely. This time I stuck to it and 4 good treatments with Safer's End All II with 10ml/L added canola oil every 3rd day. Was a very small outbreak that I caught early so that helped. Came from a revegged AK47 I had kept away from the other plants as it had them. Knew it should have had another treatment or two before going back with the others. Managed to start on one of the new plants so sprayed them all well and so far so good.
I've been keeping the grow room warm for a month now so any that may have been dormant while it was cold down there would wake up and starve. Need to move plants down there as it's getting crowded in the spare bedroom and without proper ventilation too warm now that winter is over. Nice chilly 53F down in the basement but 75 in the grow room that's down there. A good vacuuming and spray some bleach around should do the trick.
Called the guys at my favorite hydro store in Edmonton today and they had all 3 capacitors I need to get all my ballasts up and running. Slapped them on my Visa and they should be in the post already. Going to need one of the 1000w going PDQ. If those were digital ballasts they would all be doorstops now.
SPLFreak808
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I've dealt with them a few times already, treating the plant every 2-3 days for a week with a weapon of choice and cleaning the ENTIRE area is the only way to remove them completely without shutting down.
In veg, with a heavy infestation I'll hit them with green clean and dust the foliage & soil with food grade DE the next day, I repeat this twice within a 10 day period and clean the fuck out of the grow area and pots. (Never seen them survive this, I did the same with mighty wash & DE)
In flower I try my best to make them go dormant and I'll hit the room after i pull everything.
10.5 on /13.5 off at 68-75f will usually slow them down, sometimes its enough to make it to harvest, sometimes its already too far gone and the low temps dont help a stressed plant lol.
In veg, with a heavy infestation I'll hit them with green clean and dust the foliage & soil with food grade DE the next day, I repeat this twice within a 10 day period and clean the fuck out of the grow area and pots. (Never seen them survive this, I did the same with mighty wash & DE)
In flower I try my best to make them go dormant and I'll hit the room after i pull everything.
10.5 on /13.5 off at 68-75f will usually slow them down, sometimes its enough to make it to harvest, sometimes its already too far gone and the low temps dont help a stressed plant lol.
I say if you are paying attention and catch them earlier enough there are options other than that. I have 2 organic products you can use up to harvest. If one is diligent in taking care of mites they are not that scary, just another pest to take care of.
OldMedUser
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Not a total loss then so that's good. All I've grown for years is sativa dominants but have some Kushs going now. Dutch Kush, Hindu Kush and a weird one called Ayahuasca Purple that looks good on paper. Those 3 and the AK47 should be going into flower in the next week or so.
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Barney's Farm presents here the Ayahuasca Purple, an Indica cannabis strain with wonderful purple and reddish colours and strong psychedelic effect. Now available in Alchimiaweb in feminised seed form.
This variety has its origins on an Indica strain given to Barney's Farm by an American veteran, the Red River. Thus, the Dutch seed bank has decided to share this splendid genetics with the cannabis community.
It has been crossed with the Master Kush to reinforce its Indica character. Thus, Ayahuasca Purple is a compact and bushy plant that reaches 1-1.5 meters in height. Its bloom is fast, since we'll harvest it after only 50 days indoors, by mid September outdoors.
Yields are high - up to 650gr/m2 indoors - the effect is very strong and cerebral, and it develops beautiful colours during the flowering stage.
Ayahuasca Purple from Barney's Farm features:
Genetics: Red River x Master Kush
Type: Feminised seeds
Mostly Indica hybrid
Indoor flowering: 50 days
Outdoor harvest: mid September
Height: 1-1.5 metres
THC: 21%
CBD: 0.9%
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Have others getting big enough to flower soon too. 4 regulars from a cross a buddy made. Island Sweet Skunk x DJ Short's Blueberry and 4 nice hi-CBD fems that are well bred and pretty stable. Have been tested at 20+ CBD and around 2-3% THC and should yield well.
OldMedUser
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My last grow the sons of bitches didn't show up until about 3 weeks into flowering so I taped some window screen over the crevice tool for the vacuum and gently vacuumed them off every coupe of days. I'm certain they were there all along but I wasn't paying attention. Thought I'd wiped them out during veg but didn't wait an extra week before flowering to make sure.
Crop was well seeded too so didn't get as much as I should have but still have lots so no fear about running out. Never pollinate when you're 3 sheets to the wind!
grilledcheese101
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All natural and completley safe. Does everything u need and more.
OldMedUser
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Cyanide is organic too but I'm not eating any.
I won't spray anything organic or not on buds. I'd rather get rid of them manually and they all come off while trimming. They do not crawl into the buds and I used my USB scope to examine the buds once cured and couldn't find a one. I'm the only one smoking it and all the trim is fine for oil.
OldMedUser
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I don't want buds that taste like Peppermint and Rosemary. Curious about the 90% 'Other ingredients' and the ones on the bottom aren't crap I want to be smoking either. Hemp seed oil would work like canola oil or neem by smothering the bugs.
Active Ingredients:
Rosemary Oil ………………………….. 7%
Peppermint Oil ………………………..3%
Other Ingredients*: ……………….. 90%
Total…………………………………… 100%
*Lauric Acid, Polyglyceryl Oleate, Hemp Seed Oil,
Isopropyl Myristate, Water
"All ingredients are food safe and GRAS (generally regarded as safe). It can be used up to the day of harvest.""
GRAS means as far as they know it's safe for food. What does it change to when smoked? This is the same logic the Canadian gov't used regarding permissible sprays the legal pot growers are allowed to use. All stuff allowed to spray on fruits and veggies but no idea if it's safe to smoke.
I don't believe in spraying preemptively. Like taking chemo just in case. Identify the pest if it shows up then use the best method to get rid of it. It was my methodology that was faulty not the tool.
xtsho
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I was paying attention but the plants were a sativa strain that can take up to 24 months to finish. I didn't have a real bad infestation but one mite is too many for me. I spray neem weekly during veg and haven't had any issues in years but I've never had any plants take this long and eventually the preventive properties of neem wear off I guess. I won't spray anything organic or not on buds.so spraying wasn't an option. I had other things in the works that couldn't wait any longer. I have a few amateur breeding projects going on and I wasn't going to be playing around with a couple plants with mites so I went nuclear on those mites.
My main goal was a seed run to maintain the strain. That I accomplished. Getting to smoke a sativa that took six months to flower, that I missed out on. I'm going to run some more but this time I'm going to do a few 12/12 from seed just for smoke. They just get too big for a tent indoors and I know they won't finish outside where I live so I'm not even going to try growing outdoors.
xtsho
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I don't want buds that taste like Peppermint and Rosemary. Curious about the 90% 'Other ingredients' and the ones on the bottom aren't crap I want to be smoking either. Hemp seed oil would work like canola oil or neem by smothering the bugs.
Active Ingredients:
Rosemary Oil ………………………….. 7%
Peppermint Oil ………………………..3%
Other Ingredients*: ……………….. 90%
Total…………………………………… 100%
*Lauric Acid, Polyglyceryl Oleate, Hemp Seed Oil,
Isopropyl Myristate, Water
"All ingredients are food safe and GRAS (generally regarded as safe). It can be used up to the day of harvest.""
GRAS means as far as they know it's safe for food. What does it change to when smoked? This is the same logic the Canadian gov't used regarding permissible sprays the legal pot growers are allowed to use. All stuff allowed to spray on fruits and veggies but no idea if it's safe to smoke.
I don't believe in spraying preemptively. Like taking chemo just in case. Identify the pest if it shows up then use the best method to get rid of it. It was my methodology that was faulty not the tool.
You beat me to it.
xtsho
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grilledcheese101
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I don't want buds that taste like Peppermint and Rosemary. Curious about the 90% 'Other ingredients' and the ones on the bottom aren't crap I want to be smoking either. Hemp seed oil would work like canola oil or neem by smothering the bugs.
Active Ingredients:
Rosemary Oil ………………………….. 7%
Peppermint Oil ………………………..3%
Other Ingredients*: ……………….. 90%
Total…………………………………… 100%
*Lauric Acid, Polyglyceryl Oleate, Hemp Seed Oil,
Isopropyl Myristate, Water
"All ingredients are food safe and GRAS (generally regarded as safe). It can be used up to the day of harvest.""
GRAS means as far as they know it's safe for food. What does it change to when smoked? This is the same logic the Canadian gov't used regarding permissible sprays the legal pot growers are allowed to use. All stuff allowed to spray on fruits and veggies but no idea if it's safe to smoke.
I don't believe in spraying preemptively. Like taking chemo just in case. Identify the pest if it shows up then use the best method to get rid of it. It was my methodology that was faulty not the tool.
Agreed! Never used in flower ever lol but it does the trick thru veg . i think the 90% other ingredients are the last ones listed, its very milky white in colour and goes a pretty long way
grilledcheese101
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Didnt realize you were in flower! Fawk! My mistake bro. I watched a subcool video and he was running a heater to get the environtment to a point where they wont lay eggs. If i find it i can post it?
SPLFreak808
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the vacuum is a lot of work if you get caught in early flower but it beats no harvest at all, going beyond 12 weeks would drive me crazy.My last grow the sons of bitches didn't show up until about 3 weeks into flowering so I taped some window screen over the crevice tool for the vacuum and gently vacuumed them off every coupe of days. I'm certain they were there all along but I wasn't paying attention. Thought I'd wiped them out during veg but didn't wait an extra week before flowering to make sure.
Crop was well seeded too so didn't get as much as I should have but still have lots so no fear about running out. Never pollinate when you're 3 sheets to the wind!
I cant even count how many clones I've bought/gifted/traded, all I know is every grower that told me they were clean either had spider mites,aphids, white flies and one time, russets which hit me hard as fuck.
Out here near the equator, bugs can go fuck themselves lol.
OldMedUser
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That's one of the very few perks of living in the Great White North. -40 in the winter kills off a lot of bugs other than the ones that suck human blood. No fleas on our dog or cats ever. I don't have to worry about bringing bugs into the grow room when I've been out in the yard shoveling snow. I do when I've been shoveling dirt in the summer tho.
