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natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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Toxic Avenger said:
Nsac, usada, ufc they're all fucking up by attaching their horse(s)to the wrong carriage(s) happens all the time in the Mma world. Personally I would've distanced myself from Connor after the bus attack (at the very latest).

I've always been a proponent of due process but I also stopped rooting for the guy when he started acting like a coked up twat. The saying "the way you do one thing is the way you do everything" comes to mind:roll: and since the guy has acted soooo reasonably in the past might make siding with him over his alleged victim very tricky indeed.

I thought Schaub would've been all over this as he's the first to yell elephant or hippo or whatever but so far it's a bunch of Eddie Bravoesk videos on YouTube and forum chatter linking these allegations sooo fishy.
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I'm not too surprised. He's still one of UFC's biggest draws and they've put a lot of money and time into promoting him.I heard when he was coming up,He was bankrolled(by his country) to train and only to train.Conor didnt grow up poor but he wasnt from a rich family either.One thing I've learned while reading online is that Ireland is quite tight lipped when it comes to investigations,names are usually withheld until conviction.And it being (possibly) CM,I would imagine they are going to be even more quiet about it.
Imo,some of the stories out there are so horrific people dont want to spread them(journalists,blogs,analysts,fighters)
Whether it's out of respect for the victim,or for CM if it's false.
We might have not heard about any of this had the leaked memo not happen.The RTE ,which is a legit Ireland news source had to notify the Data Protection Commision about a leak.That leak is the supposed memo some of you might have seen pics of.IMG_20190127_163650.jpg
 
Toxic Avenger

Toxic Avenger

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Any winning picks?
I got...
Jose Aldo TKO round 2 (so smart to go 3 as 5 would favour the gangly youth IMO)
Jonny Walker was so impressive last outing And promises to be headliner so I think he'll be head hunting looking for another highlight reel finish so don't blink:eyesmoke:
 
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KryptoBud

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Bubby'sndalab said:
Holy shit Whittaker is out hours before 234
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Wouldn't be a proper ufc event without some kid of bullshit or controversy. How do you get a hernia hours before a fight?
Bet the ufc's glad they spent the cash making the TUF Whittaker vs Gastelum. I seen they might make cerrone vs mcgregor for the interim belt. Lol
 
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KryptoBud

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The first main event on espn ended the same way as the first main event on fox did . First time i've seen a punch in the face hurt someones knee.
Give Stipe the fight he deserves and stop fuckin around! He's the only guy that ate those shots and won!
 
socaljoe

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What a shame. If Cain could've stayed relatively injury free, I don't think there would be much argument about the HW GOAT, maybe just between him and Fedor back when he was Fedor. It's a damn travesty that he's spent the best years of his fighting career sidelined with injury.
 
Toxic Avenger

Toxic Avenger

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UfC 235 is as stacked as a card can be most excited to see every fight on the main card/prelims
My winnin picks are
Jones via TKO
Woodley via TKO
Askren via dec.
Torres via dec.
Walker via pachanga
Gall via rnc
 
Toxic Avenger

Toxic Avenger

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Toxic Avenger said:
UfC 235 is as stacked as a card can be most excited to see every fight on the main card/prelims
My winnin picks are
Jones via TKO
Woodley via TKO
Askren via dec.
Torres via dec.
Walker via pachanga
Gall via rnc
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And No Love via KO

pls. I can live with Vera pulling out no more surprise injuries, wieght cutting fuck ups .......or staph ....dollies n such:wall: fuck I'm forgetting something:dunce:o ya usada pls.go fuck a duck till mar3rd
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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socaljoe said:
What a shame. If Cain could've stayed relatively injury free, I don't think there would be much argument about the HW GOAT, maybe just between him and Fedor back when he was Fedor. It's a damn travesty that he's spent the best years of his fighting career sidelined with injury.
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Cain's a hype beast (how do I make this all multicolor and wobbly)

He's had one "win" since USADA came in and it's against a guy who doesn't fight anymore because he's married to Ronda Rousey's Money.

Dudes worse than Hendricks in that at least we got to see Hendricks fail miserably in the octagon after USADA came in, Cain couldn't even make it to the Octagon without steroids. I don't buy the idea that the guy who couldn't make it to the cage healthy would have won all these fights he couldn't fight.

UFC doesn't have many Mexican stars it's the only reason why he's promoted so heavily. They want PPV from Latinos nothing more nothing less.

The dude should have retired after beating Travis. It's only getting worse from here.

Cain's wins are against massive steroid abusers, you can't tell me that guy wasn't/hasn't juiced his entire career too. Heavyweight sucks always has. DC is the best ever... that's how bad heavyweight sucks. DC survived USADA and has continued to beast at HW. He beat the best HW division ever in Strikeforce, he's merced the UFC's longest reigning champ. There's just no question to me.
 
socaljoe

socaljoe

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Mr.Head said:
Cain's a hype beast (how do I make this all multicolor and wobbly)

He's had one "win" since USADA came in and it's against a guy who doesn't fight anymore because he's married to Ronda Rousey's Money.

Dudes worse than Hendricks in that at least we got to see Hendricks fail miserably in the octagon after USADA came in, Cain couldn't even make it to the Octagon without steroids. I don't buy the idea that the guy who couldn't make it to the cage healthy would have won all these fights he couldn't fight.

UFC doesn't have many Mexican stars it's the only reason why he's promoted so heavily. They want PPV from Latinos nothing more nothing less.

The dude should have retired after beating Travis. It's only getting worse from here.

Cain's wins are against massive steroid abusers, you can't tell me that guy wasn't/hasn't juiced his entire career too. Heavyweight sucks always has. DC is the best ever... that's how bad heavyweight sucks. DC survived USADA and has continued to beast at HW. He beat the best HW division ever in Strikeforce, he's merced the UFC's longest reigning champ. There's just no question to me.
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Maybe you're right, but that's a lot of speculation.

The fact that Cain never pissed hot pre/post USADA, and that may not mean much to you, in my opinion gives him the benefit of the doubt at the very least. Second, he has only fought twice since the UFC & USADA program took effect on July 1, 2015, so that's hardly proof of anything other than that he's 1-1 under USADA.

I'm on board with the idea that steroid use was prevalent pre-USADA, Hendricks is a good example of someone who was a shadow of his former self, Overeem too was a pretty obvious juicer. I don't know, I'm not so quick to jump to conclusions I guess.

You're on the money about HW being a wasteland, I can't remember the last time it wasn't the weakest division in the UFC.

DC is a beast at HW, no question.
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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Those were horrendous fights, I'll never watch Jon fight again even for free. Herb Dean needs to retire. Between allowing Conor to cheat in the Khabib fight, the Lawler shit earlier in the night where he lifts Robbies arm then completely ignores the reaction... you can actually see him on the tape stop watching Robbies arm right after he moved it. He Starts looking at the choke..

Then you have the main event, Jones got away with his finger out defense every time Anthony came in, should be a warning first time and then a point Herb won't even acknowledge Jon's doing it.. The shit stops people dead they don't want to lose their vision for the rest of their lives. Then there's the head kick on the ground and the knee right after Herb let him away with the headkick.

This "sport" is pathetic. I'm just done. Completely done with Herb, when Big John started fucking up he retired. Herbs either being paid to make these decisions or he's past his prime and needs to step away.

Worst referee in the sport bar none, a referee should never play favorites and Herb does every fucking fight. He picks who he wants/he's told to let win then proceeds to let them away with murder

When boxing is seen as a more honest combat sport something is seriously wrong...
 
Bubby'sndalab

Bubby'sndalab

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Mr.Head said:
Those were horrendous fights, I'll never watch Jon fight again even for free. Herb Dean needs to retire. Between allowing Conor to cheat in the Khabib fight, the Lawler shit earlier in the night where he lifts Robbies arm then completely ignores the reaction... you can actually see him on the tape stop watching Robbies arm right after he moved it. He Starts looking at the choke..

Then you have the main event, Jones got away with his finger out defense every time Anthony came in, should be a warning first time and then a point Herb won't even acknowledge Jon's doing it.. The shit stops people dead they don't want to lose their vision for the rest of their lives. Then there's the head kick on the ground and the knee right after Herb let him away with the headkick.

This "sport" is pathetic. I'm just done. Completely done with Herb, when Big John started fucking up he retired. Herbs either being paid to make these decisions or he's past his prime and needs to step away.

Worst referee in the sport bar none, a referee should never play favorites and Herb does every fucking fight.
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That Marc Goddard ref sucks too
 
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