growingforfun
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It is to ask for help and advice. I think you've been given that. Keep looking and people will start giving the advice you seem to want to hear however..
What to do? Help Please.
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Medicated Bonsai
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I understand what you're saying, I'll keep this in mind. Thank you.
growingforfun
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No problem. And to expand briefly on your fear of health... this is a a symptom of a lack of nutrient, or light burn. Theres no harm in it to you and it's very unlikely it will effect the flavor negatively, and not going to be something a new grower/casual smoker will notice ever.
What is noticed is a barge excess of nutrient and mold. You dont have that.
Simply said, just relax.
I don't see you as panicking. I see you as trying to figure out what is happening. So with all the information you now have how do you plan to avoid this in your next grow?
Medicated Bonsai
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More aeration. I'll use perlite or lava rock next run. The soil mix seemed fine as it didn't clump together when I squeezed it in my fist. I think a large part of this is because I transplanted straight into a 5 gallon pot from a solo cup. I'm beginning to think this problem was slowly developing over time? Either way, the roots seem to want more oxygen so i'll keep this in mind next run.
EDIT ::: Also, are rice hulls suitable for an aeration amendment?
Go back and read what Malt told you about using H2O2 and how to know when to water. Malt gave you a trick to oxygenate and although you have very little time left oxygen helps.
Your next grow use 50% X-Large Perlite or more to soil. Matter of fact you may wish to switch soils. As Malt had bad memories of that one and since he came from academia and large greenhouses I'd listen.
Anyway as the guys said there's not much time left so not much to worry about now. You can't do much to hurt but learn for next grow. I see no PM, you could have harvested more but not bad.
growingforfun
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Coco coir is the best solution imo and cheap. Many use perlite and I did for years as well but perlite dust is very bad to breathe, and it separates and floats up to the top over time somewhat.
Check your local nursery for "premium potting soil" it will generally come in a 2 cf bag and cost about 25$
That's why I called in a soil guy. I'm in 50/50 coco/xlg perlite (I wear a respirator when mixing). I love it, light and able to turn on a dime hydro, flexible and malleable, good choice.
Medicated Bonsai
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I'll try the XL Perlite instead of the regular small size.
Should I weigh the pot for every watering or only in a situation like this? Also, i'm not sure why but, adding Hydrogen Peroxide seem a bit risky to me. How would I do this (the ratio to water/per gallon)?
I'm using a custom soil mix next run and it's currently cooking. I'm really nervous because I'm not sure what to expect...and I used the black magic potting soil as a part for the base
growingforfun
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Also keep in mind... every time the plant dries... the water is replaced with... AIR!I'll try the XL Perlite instead of the regular small size.
Should I weigh the pot for every watering or only in a situation like this? Also, i'm not sure why but, adding Hydrogen Peroxide seem a bit risky to me. How would I do this (the ratio to water/per gallon)?
I'm using a custom soil mix next run and it's currently cooking. I'm really nervous because I'm not sure what to expect...and I used the black magic potting soil as a part for the base
I'm pretty sure you'll be ok this time without any changes, this isnt a oxygen issue so no reason to treat it like one imo..
The h2o2 will dissolve dead roots and some amount of small root (no big deal, big help in veg if rootbound) and kill all the micro herd generally speaking. I see no reason to do it in your case but if ya want to go for it.
Budzbuddha
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Ok ... I think I figured it out. I looked deeper into your soil mix ... black magic.
Home Depot ... Enough said. It has Aged Bark as a primary ingredient. Bark has a ph of 4.0 to around 5.0 , PLUS it lists “ nothing “ for PH control. It is short on a number of elements to make a more complete soil mix.
Plus the RO water - stripped of minerals . I use Cali Tap , no boiling or other nonsense. I just adjust ph as needed and use. It’s got calcium ( hence deposits ) and mag .
Bark also hold water and isn’t a choice when you are trying to drain and aerate the soil to resist compaction.
Home Depot ... Enough said. It has Aged Bark as a primary ingredient. Bark has a ph of 4.0 to around 5.0 , PLUS it lists “ nothing “ for PH control. It is short on a number of elements to make a more complete soil mix.
Plus the RO water - stripped of minerals . I use Cali Tap , no boiling or other nonsense. I just adjust ph as needed and use. It’s got calcium ( hence deposits ) and mag .
Bark also hold water and isn’t a choice when you are trying to drain and aerate the soil to resist compaction.
Singlemalt
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Only in this situation. Look, you need to develop a feel. When you've settled on a mix, fill up a pot dry weigh/feel it; then wet it down as if a plant were in it so you have a dry feel and a wet feel. I guesstimate the dryness between waterings; I'll water when it feels around half or more the "wet wait". Over watering is the most common bad habit
Medicated Bonsai
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@Singlemalt Hey Malt, I have some soil cooking for my next run. Could you look at the recipe and tell me if things are ok? I've never done this before haha.
Base :
50% Black Magic
10% Coco/Peat mix
20% EWC
20% Perlite
sorry for the weird mixture of things, I didn't have much Black Magic left so I used some Coco/Peat mix that I bought from amazon. It came as an expandable brick.
Amendments (Per Cu. Ft.) :
1 Cup Bone Meal
1/2 Cup Blood Meal
1 Cup Kelp Meal
1 Cup Crush Oyster Shells
1/2 Cup Crab Meal
1 Cup Neem Cake
1/2 Cup Gypsum
1 Cup Mykos
1 Cup Dolomite Lime
1 Cup BioChar
3/4 Cup Vermiculite
3/4 Cup Azomite
Edit ::: I'm not sure what size pot I should use for this mix. I'm in a 2x4 grow tent and i'm limited on height. I was thinking a seven gallon pot? I want to use cover crop and worms as well.
Base :
50% Black Magic
10% Coco/Peat mix
20% EWC
20% Perlite
sorry for the weird mixture of things, I didn't have much Black Magic left so I used some Coco/Peat mix that I bought from amazon. It came as an expandable brick.
Amendments (Per Cu. Ft.) :
1 Cup Bone Meal
1/2 Cup Blood Meal
1 Cup Kelp Meal
1 Cup Crush Oyster Shells
1/2 Cup Crab Meal
1 Cup Neem Cake
1/2 Cup Gypsum
1 Cup Mykos
1 Cup Dolomite Lime
1 Cup BioChar
3/4 Cup Vermiculite
3/4 Cup Azomite
Edit ::: I'm not sure what size pot I should use for this mix. I'm in a 2x4 grow tent and i'm limited on height. I was thinking a seven gallon pot? I want to use cover crop and worms as well.
It also adds oxygen. Further AIR is only 21% oxygen hence why in such a dense substrate 3% H2O2 is helpful.
growingforfun
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Exactly this. RO water is overrated imo.. I BOUGHT bottled gallons when I started. Like 50 at a time. Then got a ro unit. Now I use tap water and get better results. Meh. The less i try the better i do it seems just about..
First sign of junk soil is bark. I honestly wont even touch fox farms any more.. not that fox farms is even that bad... at first.
Yup cali tap here too, why throw away free Ca/Mg
The only reason not to use tap is if your city uses Chloramine instead of Chlorine.
growingforfun
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O....K.... /sigh
Yep... your right... adding h2o2 when it's not a lack of oxygen causing the issue is a fantastic idea.
Medicated Bonsai
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Shit I should stop being paranoid and switch back to tap. I'm so new...it seems like any time I run into a minor problem I automatically blame it on tap...probably 99.9% my own fault lol
Medicated Bonsai
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Shit, well I live in Cali as well but I'm not sure if my city uses chloramine.