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realstreeeeet

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I started to grow weed for the first time.
(hydroponics)
Now they have germinated and grown a little.
(It's the 2nd week, but the growth stage is in the first week.)
(My guess is that growth is slow due to lack of nutrition.)
Their leaves and roots are in very healthy condition.
Until now, I have only grown them with only water without the added nutrients.
Now I'm going to add nutrients.
I have dynagro's products.
1. foliage pro 9-6-3
2. bloom 3-12-6
3. protekt 0-0-3
4. mag pro 2-15-4
5. KLN
When I did an internet search, there were articles to add as below.

1set
foliage pro 9-6-3: 5 ~ 10ml
bloom 3-12-6: X
Protekt 0-0-3: 5ml
mag pro 2-15-4: 5ml
KLN: 5 ~ 10ml

or

2set
foliage pro 9-6-3: 5 ~ 10ml
bloom 3-12-6: X
Protekt 0-0-3: 2.5ml
mag pro 2-15-4: 0.5 ~ 1ml
KLN: 2.5 ~ 5ml

Etc..

There are various articles ranging from a little difference to a lot of things.
I doubt what to do.
I am the first to grow, I am ignorant.

Please help me how to do it.
 
im4satori

im4satori

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first

can you post some pics of the plants to get an idea of there size and condition

do you have an EC or PPM meter and are you testing the PH, what medium are you growing in or what style hydro

and id like some more info on your fertilizer

for now, id not use the porotekt...

I assume mag pro is magnesium and maybe calcium supplement but idk for sure...

give me a link to each of those fertilizer prodcuts so I can get familiar with your brand
 
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im4satori said:
first

can you post some pics of the plants to get an idea of there size and condition

do you have an EC or PPM meter and are you testing the PH, what medium are you growing in or what style hydro

and id like some more info on your fertilizer

for now, id not use the porotekt...

I assume mag pro is magnesium and maybe calcium supplement but idk for sure...

give me a link to each of those fertilizer prodcuts so I can get familiar with your brand
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I have a ppm meter.
I also have temperature meter and pH meter.
The tap water is about 90 ppm, and the air is used for about one day to remove chlorine from the tap water.
I did not add anything, but it seems to rise to 150 ~ 170ppm after a few days.
My products are all from dynagro company.
 

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realstreeeeet

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im4satori said:
first

can you post some pics of the plants to get an idea of there size and condition

do you have an EC or PPM meter and are you testing the PH, what medium are you growing in or what style hydro

and id like some more info on your fertilizer

for now, id not use the porotekt...

I assume mag pro is magnesium and maybe calcium supplement but idk for sure...

give me a link to each of those fertilizer prodcuts so I can get familiar with your brand
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im4satori

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I personally wouldn't use that fertilizer

its probably fine for soil but id not use it in hydro

id recommend you go buy some maxi grow and maxi bloom powder
use maxi grow in veg and 50/50 maxigrow/maxibloom in up to week 6 and then use only maxi bloom
at 5 total grams your at max strength and id give those little sprouts no more than 1/2 strength or EC0.5

example (per gallon)

veg
5 grams maxi grow only (at full strength)

bloom
2.5 grams maxi grow and 2.5 grams maxi bloom (at full strength)

late bloom
5 grams maxi bloom only (at full strength)

so id start that seedling off at around 2 grams maxi grow per gallon .... that's all you need is those two bags and nothing more


im sure theres somebody out there using this who says it works great and that's fine I have no argument beyond my 2 cents

example
look at the amount of iron in the pro veg product.... 0.01% isn't nearly enough and theres no nearly enough calcium in the product so unbless you got crazy hard water your gonna have issues... the K is way to low and it forces you to use lots of the silica which is going to do a number on the ph and the N is all together too high even for veg

the liquid bloom product at least has 0.1% iron but the other prodcuts have soooo much P in them that's about all there good for is adding P

seriously.... id run from this fertilizer

your going to have nothing but trouble with it

the maxi grow and maxi bloom is so very simple and very balanced and youll be happy
 
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Serverchris

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Dynagro works great in hydro, no need to buy anything else. Since they are still so small I would just add foliage pro to your tap water until you get to about 250ppm. That will be weak enough to not burn but give them some nutrition. You could add 2.5ml per gallon of protect right now too if you want but watch as that raises the ph alot, and you will have to add the protect to the water first if you decide to use.
 
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realstreeeeet

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Serverchris said:
Dynagro works great in hydro, no need to buy anything else. Since they are still so small I would just add foliage pro to your tap water until you get to about 250ppm. That will be weak enough to not burn but give them some nutrition. You could add 2.5ml per gallon of protect right now too if you want but watch as that raises the ph alot, and you will have to add the protect to the water first if you decide to use.
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Can I follow this?
From the 1st week.
 

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That's most likely going to be a little strong right now. I would start low as I suggested and move up slowly in ppm each week. Protect and foliage pro should be all you need in veg, mag pro will be good to add when you go to flower, the KLN idk because I've never used that.
 
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Serverchris said:
That's most likely going to be a little strong right now. I would start low as I suggested and move up slowly in ppm each week. Protect and foliage pro should be all you need in veg, mag pro will be good to add when you go to flower, the KLN idk because I've never used that.
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Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
 
im4satori

im4satori

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@Serverchris
I agree with what hes telling you for the amount of food to use if you want to use that product until you get something else

but imho id not use it long

I know some people use it successfully but the math doesn't lie... the product is super low in calcium and almost zero iron and its loaded with N

even if you used a full does of 5mls per gallon at 0.01% iron) your only getting 0.13PPM iron in the solution

and you need 1.2 - 2.0 ppm

at 5mls per gallon your only feeding 25ppm calcium (which is fine in soil that's been treated with lime) in hydro the range should be more like 60 to 90ppm


you don't need to have a ton of knowledge to look at the bottle and see 0.01% iron aint shit bro
compare it to other fertilizer's...youll find most have at least 0.1% or better

the foliage pro stuff is incomplete
 
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70's natureboy

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I always do side by side grows. Right now I am using 3 kinds of nutes and you can't tell the difference in any of them. (Floranova, Megacrop, and Dyna FP) Not a yellow leaf on any of them. I haven't seen that Dynagro chart but like any chart I would cut those recommendations in half. Some people have run Foliage Pro all the way through. I tried it and it can be done. I don't think I ever went over 5 ml/gal. I kinda like the idea of mixing Dyna FP and Bloom and I MIGHT try it sometime but I like to keep things simple and am getting spoiled on one part nutes. I do use Protekt during the middle part of the grow.

I would say use the FP at no more then 5 ml/gal or try thier chart and cut it in half. My sativas are light feeders. Other people may be able to use stronger nutes.

im4satori, if the Dyna is low in iron, how would I notice it?
 
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Serverchris said:
That's most likely going to be a little strong right now. I would start low as I suggested and move up slowly in ppm each week. Protect and foliage pro should be all you need in veg, mag pro will be good to add when you go to flower, the KLN idk because I've never used that.
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im4satori said:
@Serverchris
I agree with what hes telling you for the amount of food to use if you want to use that product until you get something else

but imho id not use it long

I know some people use it successfully but the math doesn't lie... the product is super low in calcium and almost zero iron and its loaded with N

even if you used a full does of 5mls per gallon at 0.01% iron) your only getting 0.13PPM iron in the solution

and you need 1.2 - 2.0 ppm

at 5mls per gallon your only feeding 25ppm calcium (which is fine in soil that's been treated with lime) in hydro the range should be more like 60 to 90ppm


you don't need to have a ton of knowledge to look at the bottle and see 0.01% iron aint shit bro
compare it to other fertilizer's...youll find most have at least 0.1% or better

the foliage pro stuff is incomplete
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thanks, bro! :)
 
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