hell......p me! nutrients of dyna gro

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realstreeeeet

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70's natureboy said:
I always do side by side grows. Right now I am using 3 kinds of nutes and you can't tell the difference in any of them. (Floranova, Megacrop, and Dyna FP) Not a yellow leaf on any of them. I haven't seen that Dynagro chart but like any chart I would cut those recommendations in half. Some people have run Foliage Pro all the way through. I tried it and it can be done. I don't think I ever went over 5 ml/gal. I kinda like the idea of mixing Dyna FP and Bloom and I MIGHT try it sometime but I like to keep things simple and am getting spoiled on one part nutes. I do use Protekt during the middle part of the grow.

I would say use the FP at no more then 5 ml/gal or try thier chart and cut it in half. My sativas are light feeders. Other people may be able to use stronger nutes.

im4satori, if the Dyna is low in iron, how would I notice it?
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thanks, bro! :)
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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realstreeeeet said:
I started to grow weed for the first time.
(hydroponics)
Now they have germinated and grown a little.
(It's the 2nd week, but the growth stage is in the first week.)
(My guess is that growth is slow due to lack of nutrition.)
Their leaves and roots are in very healthy condition.
Until now, I have only grown them with only water without the added nutrients.
Now I'm going to add nutrients.
I have dynagro's products.
1. foliage pro 9-6-3
2. bloom 3-12-6
3. protekt 0-0-3
4. mag pro 2-15-4
5. KLN
When I did an internet search, there were articles to add as below.

1set
foliage pro 9-6-3: 5 ~ 10ml
bloom 3-12-6: X
Protekt 0-0-3: 5ml
mag pro 2-15-4: 5ml
KLN: 5 ~ 10ml

or

2set
foliage pro 9-6-3: 5 ~ 10ml
bloom 3-12-6: X
Protekt 0-0-3: 2.5ml
mag pro 2-15-4: 0.5 ~ 1ml
KLN: 2.5 ~ 5ml

Etc..

There are various articles ranging from a little difference to a lot of things.
I doubt what to do.
I am the first to grow, I am ignorant.

Please help me how to do it.
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Just use the foilage pro for now. I've used it start to finish several times and it works alone. It has all macro and micro nuttrients.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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realstreeeeet said:
I started to grow weed for the first time.
(hydroponics)
Now they have germinated and grown a little.
(It's the 2nd week, but the growth stage is in the first week.)
(My guess is that growth is slow due to lack of nutrition.)
Their leaves and roots are in very healthy condition.
Until now, I have only grown them with only water without the added nutrients.
Now I'm going to add nutrients.
I have dynagro's products.
1. foliage pro 9-6-3
2. bloom 3-12-6
3. protekt 0-0-3
4. mag pro 2-15-4
5. KLN
When I did an internet search, there were articles to add as below.

1set
foliage pro 9-6-3: 5 ~ 10ml
bloom 3-12-6: X
Protekt 0-0-3: 5ml
mag pro 2-15-4: 5ml
KLN: 5 ~ 10ml

or

2set
foliage pro 9-6-3: 5 ~ 10ml
bloom 3-12-6: X
Protekt 0-0-3: 2.5ml
mag pro 2-15-4: 0.5 ~ 1ml
KLN: 2.5 ~ 5ml

Etc..

There are various articles ranging from a little difference to a lot of things.
I doubt what to do.
I am the first to grow, I am ignorant.

Please help me how to do it.
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Okay. Buy soil next time and KISS. But good luck this time.
 
im4satori

im4satori

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70's natureboy said:
I always do side by side grows. Right now I am using 3 kinds of nutes and you can't tell the difference in any of them. (Floranova, Megacrop, and Dyna FP) Not a yellow leaf on any of them. I haven't seen that Dynagro chart but like any chart I would cut those recommendations in half. Some people have run Foliage Pro all the way through. I tried it and it can be done. I don't think I ever went over 5 ml/gal. I kinda like the idea of mixing Dyna FP and Bloom and I MIGHT try it sometime but I like to keep things simple and am getting spoiled on one part nutes. I do use Protekt during the middle part of the grow.

I would say use the FP at no more then 5 ml/gal or try thier chart and cut it in half. My sativas are light feeders. Other people may be able to use stronger nutes.

im4satori, if the Dyna is low in iron, how would I notice it?
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yellowin in the top new growth
 
tyke1973

tyke1973

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Ya Drowning the Seedlings bro ,I would have less water un that you got them in just the bottom part of the plants about a cm or two of water ,Add some sort of air into the water before you do anything,Perhaps Air rings around the bottom of each pebble pot,If your growing in dwc then lower the water level and get a stone in the bottom of each The tub.The wilting of each one of the seedlings looks like it caused by over watering,If you was just to pull them out for a few days they would pick up ,If you carry on with that amount of water around each one you get root rot
 
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70's natureboy

70's natureboy

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OK Realstreet, I'm starting to see the problem. You have chosen a problematic hokey hydro system for your first grow. A simple flood and drain system would be so simple. Just don't go over 5 ml/gal and hope for the best. I actually use about 4 ml/gal.
 
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realstreeeeet

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70's natureboy said:
OK Realstreet, I'm starting to see the problem. You have chosen a problematic hokey hydro system for your first grow. A simple flood and drain system would be so simple. Just don't go over 5 ml/gal and hope for the best. I actually use about 4 ml/gal.
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air temp : 27ºC
humidity : 30~40%
water temp : 20ºC
PH : about 6.0 (I adjusted the pH with baking soda (sodium bicarbonate), citric acid)
ppm : 650~700 (tap water 8L, protekt 5ml, mag pro 2ml, foliage pro 10ml, KLN 10ml)
4 airpump and waterpump (15 minutes / every 2 hours) are set.
These roots seem healthy, but growth seems to have almost stopped.
What is the problem?
I'm going to go crazy. T.T
How should I take action now?
Is it okay if I leave it alone?
 
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whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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realstreeeeet said:
air temp : 27ºC
humidity : 30~40%
water temp : 20ºC
PH : about 6.0 (I adjusted the pH with baking soda (sodium bicarbonate), citric acid)
ppm : 650~700 (tap water 8L, protekt 5ml, mag pro 2ml, foliage pro 10ml, KLN 10ml)
4 airpump and waterpump (15 minutes / every 2 hours) are set.
These roots seem healthy, but growth seems to have almost stopped.
What is the problem?
I'm going to go crazy. T.T
How should I take action now?
Is it okay if I leave it alone?
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Drop the kln. It is a rooting concentrate.

Don't use much protekt. Don't use it at this stage. Let them get bigger.
 
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realstreeeeet

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whitebb2727 said:
Drop the kln. It is a rooting concentrate.

Don't use much protekt. Don't use it at this stage. Let them get bigger.
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I will disuse kln.
In addition, protekt was added at 2.5 ml / gallon, but we changed it to 1 ml / gallon.

-----------Until now--------------
protekt - 2.5ml
kln - 5ml
mag pro 1ml
foliage pro - 5ml
/ gallon

about 750~800ppm


-----------soon--------------------
protekt 1ml
kln - 0ml
mag pro 0.5ml
foliage pro - 3ml
/ gallon

?ppm
I do not know yet
Removing chlorine from tap water
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whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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realstreeeeet said:
I will disuse kln.
In addition, protekt was added at 2.5 ml / gallon, but we changed it to 1 ml / gallon.

-----------Until now--------------
protekt - 2.5ml
kln - 5ml
mag pro 1ml
foliage pro - 5ml
/ gallon

about 750~800ppm


-----------soon--------------------
protekt 1ml
kln - 0ml
mag pro 0.5ml
foliage pro - 3ml
/ gallon

?ppm
I do not know yet
Removing chlorine from tap water
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I would leave the protekt out for now as well. It is a silica additive. Not really needed at this point. It's also the last thing to add when using or it won't mix right.

I would wait until they have 5-7 nodes before using protekt.

I would also get the ppms of the fp lower. It goes a long ways. Start about 1/4 strength.
 
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realstreeeeet

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whitebb2727 said:
I would leave the protekt out for now as well. It is a silica additive. Not really needed at this point. It's also the last thing to add when using or it won't mix right.

I would wait until they have 5-7 nodes before using protekt.

I would also get the ppms of the fp lower. It goes a long ways. Start about 1/4 strength.
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protekt and kln are hard to use... T.T
I will disuse both of them.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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realstreeeeet said:
protekt and kln are hard to use... T.T
I will disuse both of them.
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Not hard just not needed. The kln is for taking clones.

The protekt is silica which will help grow thicker tissue. I've used it but sparingly. Maybe two or three times during a whole grow. A little goes a long ways.

Run the protekt for once about 5-7 nodes until res is changed or water in once or twice with soil. Use again about stretch time and then again about mid flower.

The protekt is good for getting thicker tissue if pest are a problem and then putting on a bit of extra weight in flower.

A good rule of thumb is to keep it super simple. Less is more. I always grow better plants when I follow that.
 
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realstreeeeet

Member
whitebb2727 said:
Not hard just not needed. The kln is for taking clones.

The protekt is silica which will help grow thicker tissue. I've used it but sparingly. Maybe two or three times during a whole grow. A little goes a long ways.

Run the protekt for once about 5-7 nodes until res is changed or water in once or twice with soil. Use again about stretch time and then again about mid flower.

The protekt is good for getting thicker tissue if pest are a problem and then putting on a bit of extra weight in flower.

A good rule of thumb is to keep it super simple. Less is more. I always grow better plants when I follow that.
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ok,
We will use kln only when cloning.
Protekt will be considered once the babies have grown normally.
Thanks a lot :)
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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As for Dyna Gro nutrients and cannabis growing..

All you need. Start to finish, is Foliage Pro.....I would supplement some K in bloom and veg, (use a K sulfate) and some Mg (use a sulfate)
I would stop the use of these as the bulking phase starts...

Dyna made all those different bottles because many folks thought they needed them, and to cover market share loss when others came out with all the bottles of crap lines...

The use of all of those will be a chore and create unneeded work and hassles....

Just learn to use the Foliage Pro....
 
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After several days of advice from bros I managed them hard.

I sincerely thank many of bros.
Now babies are very healthy and growing up hard.
(Except for one baby in the last photo ..)
Existing thin roots seem to have almost stopped growing, and some seem to be dying.
But the new thick roots have begun to grow and feel strong.
This is a hot photo of the present.
I would still have been saddened without the help.
I would have expressed my sincerity if my English skills were outstanding.

I will upload a picture of my babies periodically.
I really appreciate the help, and I hope that no one will suffer the same mistakes as me.
 

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realstreeeeet

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Babies grow up healthy with the help of many people.
I'm going to prune.
I want to remove the fan leaves that cover the downward light.
Is it okay to remove all of the fan leaves in the red circle?
If I remove it, is the method of picture 1 better? Is the method of picture 2 good?
 

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