Need some basic help with nutritions.

Viking420 said:
Appriciate this. I'll be easing into it. The thread have derailed so badly, I almost didn't noticed your post. Now im going to go look at my wierd little "diploid" and be happy it seems to be doing more strange than I've ever seen before. Its a freak of nature. It looked like it had 2 main branches comming up. But now that it have fleshed out alittle. It is revealing 3 (!) main branches without any training. Hopefully I can nuture it up. Starting to think I might not have to top this one. Wich is what I plan to the to do with the other 3.
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I grew out a diploid once. The odd growth seemed to settle down a bit as i got deeper into flower. Made diagnosing problems during veg a bitch though.
 
To help get back on track ... Op.

Some growers routinely grow with compost either Ecoscrapped or chicken , etc.
Good source of nitrogen and PK , some growers Worry about biosludge , parasitic issues , handling hazards ( respiratory - no bueno to breathe in ) and other things.

Dolomite lime , oyster shell can be amended to your mix to BUFFER a bit too.

Your strain looks good , purple pheno expression , mutations are what they are .

As far a SIMPLE Nutes ... I would say look into POWDERED lines. They are far more shelf stable than most liquids that require you to SHAKE BEFORE USE ( reconstitute ) many liquid brands WILL CLUMP at bottom .... Dynagro ( good stuff / bad shelf life ) ... had to do warm water baths to bottle just to break it down. Mega crop is the DARLING of 1 nute offerings. Used from start to finish.

GH also has good 2 / 3 part lines .... I currently run MAXIGROW / MAXIBLOOM .
Powdered 2 pound bags .... simple / easy .

If your soil is amended properly it will carry growth for weeks on just water .... just sayin.

If possible ( cut out the unknowns ) by picking a good bagged / amended soil.
Sunshine mix #4 , Roots Organic , ProMix , Dr. Earth , Fox Farms Ocean ( a little hot but loaded ) , Happy Frog , Black Gold .... this way you are starting with a more balanced BASE medium and ONLY feed as necessary.

You can bump it with more perlite ( aeration / drainage / helps reduce compacting too ) .
Neem meal to be a Preventative Pest / disease ( I put a 1/4 to 1/2 cup to container soil j if I had plants on a deck / patio . Also good bagged soil can be used to make teas ... cheesecloth bag in water.

Later on you can COOK your own soil ( many recipes online ) ...
 
Viking420 said:
Appriciate this. I'll be easing into it. The thread have derailed so badly, I almost didn't noticed your post. Now im going to go look at my wierd little "diploid" and be happy it seems to be doing more strange than I've ever seen before. Its a freak of nature. It looked like it had 2 main branches comming up. But now that it have fleshed out alittle. It is revealing 3 (!) main branches without any training. Hopefully I can nuture it up. Starting to think I might not have to top this one. Wich is what I plan to the to do with the other 3.
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ignore people like that guy. the person is just repeating google facts that half are incorrect or irrelevant to the information you needed
this is all you need to know a plants need high nitrogen in veg and more photograph and potassium in flower plus the trace minerals that all nutrients have in them. keep it simple and you'll do better then putting 10 different nutrients on your plant
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
flushing has whole threads devoted to what a load of horseshit it is, look them up, not going to rehash whole threads worth of shit for you.
as far as light spectrum goes, traditionally, something close to 6500 k is used for veg, but since leds have become a lot more popular, its become obvious that they veg very well under 3000k to 7000k, with little real difference. if you have a particularly stretchy strain, they will benefit from a lower k value light. that's the only real reason to give a shit about k value in veg.
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Why is a lower k better in veg. Im using 4 6500k bulbs on a T5, i would like to learn! Thanks in advance ✌
 
Kipn said:
ignore people like that guy. the person is just repeating google facts that half are incorrect or irrelevant to the information you needed
this is all you need to know a plants need high nitrogen in veg and more photograph and potassium in flower plus the trace minerals that all nutrients have in them. keep it simple and you'll do better then putting 10 different nutrients on your plant
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Yeah! I also heard the benefits of coconut water to marijuana plants are awesome, too. You should give it a try.
 
Viking420 said:
Appriciate this. I'll be easing into it. The thread have derailed so badly, I almost didn't noticed your post. Now im going to go look at my wierd little "diploid" and be happy it seems to be doing more strange than I've ever seen before. Its a freak of nature. It looked like it had 2 main branches comming up. But now that it have fleshed out alittle. It is revealing 3 (!) main branches without any training. Hopefully I can nuture it up. Starting to think I might not have to top this one. Wich is what I plan to the to do with the other 3.
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I agree with Roger Shrubber, he knows what he's talking about, very knowledgeable.
 
URaDEADBEATdad said:
Why is a lower k better in veg. Im using 4 6500k bulbs on a T5, i would like to learn! Thanks in advance ✌
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it's not so much that it's better, it just doesn't seem to matter much to most plants. they seem to veg just fine under 3k, 4k, 5k or 6k lights....
you will occasionally get a strain that either doesn't like to stretch, or likes it too much. they can benefit from a different K value, lower K for the stretchy ones, higher for the ones that don't like to stretch.
the biggest effect is from the difference between the lights you veg with and flower with. if you flower under a high k light then put it under a 2700k hps, it's going to stretch a good bit, if you veg under a 3000k light and then flower under a hps, you'll get a lot less stretch.
 
Given us hydro guys a bad name. For the record i cant spell for shit either lol. Looks like roger lord and others have it handeled for the most part. Juat a couple things to add. Most high quality garden center soils are very hot as they are ment for heavy feeding vegies and many are formulated for water retention. Make sure you mix in plenty of perlite. Nateral light is never a bad thing just make sure your indoor plant is never exposed to the outdoor environment... Unless you enjoy fighting pests. Flushing is totally unnecessary with 100% organic nutes. Someone mentioned early on ph adjusting organics. Not necessary. Organic nutes in organic soil self buffers. Phing compost tea would take a TON of ph up. When the lights go off plants continue to resperate for about 30 min. Maby less if your using flower inatiors.
 
Dynamo626 said:
Also from what i have read the most potwnt in the world is 34 to 36% Anyone who sais everything they grow is over 30% is a liar. Not only that. Testing is expensive. Who tests everything they grow except people who grow commercially?
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I also think that people use shady labs that are more than happy to exaggerate the results. I had a particularly potent pheno a couple runs back that i had tested. Lab results were 26% and it absolutely blew the doors off some dispensary shit i bought that claimed 32%. Everything becomes a shell game when greed gets involved.
 
NanoGadget said:
I also think that people use shady labs that are more than happy to exaggerate the results. I had a particularly potent pheno a couple runs back that i had tested. Lab results were 26% and it absolutely blew the doors off some dispensary shit i bought that claimed 32%. Everything becomes a shell game when greed gets involved.
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and pride, and stupidity
 
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