Should dems be allowed to own guns?

Should democrats be allowed to own guns?


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Fogdog

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Proud Boys look like dipshits to me. Pretty sure the cops can handle them.
They are stepping up the violence. It's always the other side that goes to the morgue or the hospital. Fascists are outnumbered 4 or 5 to 1 at counter demonstrations in Portland. You'd think that fascists would stop flying in from all over the country if they were trying to convince us of something. Instead, they keep coming and now are bringing guns.

Portland Police Found Right-Wing Protesters With a Cache of Long Guns Atop a Parking Garage. Why Didn’t the Mayor Know?
"Prior to the start of the scheduled demonstrations, police discovered individuals who had positioned themselves on a rooftop parking structure in downtown Portland with a cache of firearms."

In the early morning of Aug. 4, hours before a massive waterfront protest, Portland police officers discovered a group of Patriot Prayer supporters on the roof of a parking garage in downtown. According to a description provided in the mayor's proposed ordinance, the men had a "cache of firearms," which a mayoral staffer would later describe as "long guns."


They are preparing to open fire on us. The large crowds opposing them is scaring them and Proud Boys are stepping up the threat of injury or deaths from their actions.

But antifa are winning the strategic battle. The people who run city government see us, locals, showing up in mass gatherings while the other side isn't from around here. So, now, our city is looking in to how to stop a group with a violent history from getting permits for demonstrations.

Portland could put restrictions on protests if groups have history of violence, mayor says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/portland-restrictions-on-protests-patrirot-prayer-proud-boys-antifa-today-2018-10-15/

Wheeler says that his ordinance will be “reasonable and content neutral,” and won’t target one side or the other. “This is not a partisan issue. This is not about ideology,” Wheeler said. “This is about delivering a strong, principled and unified message that we will not tolerate violence in our community.”

The regulations Wheeler proposed Monday would issue "reasonable time, place and manner restrictions." The proposal would give the police commissioner greater tools to keep the peace and protesters separate, the city attorney said.

They are sorting out the legalities and legal challenges will come from fascists who don't like the idea of peaceful demonstrations but eventually, we'll bottle them up so they can't hurt anybody. Make them look foolish too. If they can't maintain order, which they can't, we'll have the right to deny them permits altogether.
 

UncleBuck

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Ah, I see. Thanks for the info. I'm definitely okay with you not being allowed to own a gun.
Why do you come onhere and humiliate yourself like this?

No one has been buying your act for some time now. It’s just embarrassing to watch you even pretend anymore
 

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
They are stepping up the violence. It's always the other side that goes to the morgue or the hospital. Fascists are outnumbered 4 or 5 to 1 at counter demonstrations in Portland. You'd think that fascists would stop flying in from all over the country if they were trying to convince us of something. Instead, they keep coming and now are bringing guns.

Portland Police Found Right-Wing Protesters With a Cache of Long Guns Atop a Parking Garage. Why Didn’t the Mayor Know?
"Prior to the start of the scheduled demonstrations, police discovered individuals who had positioned themselves on a rooftop parking structure in downtown Portland with a cache of firearms."

In the early morning of Aug. 4, hours before a massive waterfront protest, Portland police officers discovered a group of Patriot Prayer supporters on the roof of a parking garage in downtown. According to a description provided in the mayor's proposed ordinance, the men had a "cache of firearms," which a mayoral staffer would later describe as "long guns."


They are preparing to open fire on us. The large crowds opposing them is scaring them and Proud Boys are stepping up the threat of injury or deaths from their actions.

But antifa are winning the strategic battle. The people who run city government see us, locals, showing up in mass gatherings while the other side isn't from around here. So, now, our city is looking in to how to stop a group with a violent history from getting permits for demonstrations.

Portland could put restrictions on protests if groups have history of violence, mayor says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/portland-restrictions-on-protests-patrirot-prayer-proud-boys-antifa-today-2018-10-15/

Wheeler says that his ordinance will be “reasonable and content neutral,” and won’t target one side or the other. “This is not a partisan issue. This is not about ideology,” Wheeler said. “This is about delivering a strong, principled and unified message that we will not tolerate violence in our community.”

The regulations Wheeler proposed Monday would issue "reasonable time, place and manner restrictions." The proposal would give the police commissioner greater tools to keep the peace and protesters separate, the city attorney said.

They are sorting out the legalities and legal challenges will come from fascists who don't like the idea of peaceful demonstrations but eventually, we'll bottle them up so they can't hurt anybody. Make them look foolish too. If they can't maintain order, which they can't, we'll have the right to deny them permits altogether.
When you outnumber them so badly, you don't need masks and riot gear to protect yourself. All you need is a video camera these days. Antifa shows up to fight, just like the Proud Bitches do. So own your hatred.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Proud Boys, like Antifa, are both hate groups. I have no interest in hate.

Poor them, they showed up for a fight and got rolled. Maybe next time they stay home and work out their issues with a friendly game of D&D.
Antifa are nothing like Proud Boys. Their objectives are different too.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
When you outnumber them so badly, you don't need masks and riot gear to protect yourself. All you need is a video camera these days. Antifa shows up to fight, just like the Proud Bitches do. So own your hatred.
“Own your hatred!” Says the guy defending nazis after he celebrated alongside white supremacists on election night
 

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
Why do you come onhere and humiliate yourself like this?

No one has been buying your act for some time now. It’s just embarrassing to watch you even pretend anymore
Friend, I'd of been gone a long time ago if you had not so clearly tried to make me leave with your non-stop false statements about me. Think I'll stay now.:bigjoint:
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
When you outnumber them so badly, you don't need masks and riot gear to protect yourself. All you need is a video camera these days. Antifa shows up to fight, just like the Proud Bitches do. So own your hatred.
There are thousands who don't wear masks. Antifa do because both the cops and the fascists will end their lives if they know who they are. You have no idea what's going on.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Antifa are nothing like Proud Boys. Their objectives are different too.
From what I can get her, the proud boys are republicans who embrace nazism, whereas anti-fascists are peaceful civilians who oppose fascism and don’t drive their cars into crowds of peaceful protesters

Is this correct?
 

Bugeye

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There are thousands who don't wear masks. Antifa do because both the cops and the fascists will end their lives if they know who they are. You have no idea what's going on.
Looks like a lot of indulgent fantasy play to me.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
From what I can get her, the proud boys are republicans who embrace nazism, whereas anti-fascists are peaceful civilians who oppose fascism and don’t drive their cars into crowds of peaceful protesters

Is this correct?
Not one person hospitalized, nobody dead from Antifa. Proud Boys have several deaths, many more hospitalized including two cracked skulls from their skilled use of batons made from poles that carried the US flag. Fascists like Bugeye see opposition to fascists and fly into a red rage.
 

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
From what I can get her, the proud boys are republicans who embrace nazism, whereas anti-fascists are peaceful civilians who oppose fascism and don’t drive their cars into crowds of peaceful protesters

Is this correct?
The Antifa (/ænˈtiːfə, ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement is a conglomeration of left wing autonomous, self-styled anti-fascist militant[2][3][4][5][6] groups in the United States.[7][8][9] The principal feature of antifa groups is their use of direct action,[10] harassing those whom they believe to be fascists, racists and right wing extremists.[11] Conflicts are both online and in real life.[11]

They engage in varied protest tactics, which include digital activism [12] property damage and physical violence.[7][13][14][15] They tend to be anti-capitalist[16] and they are predominantly far-left and militant left,[17][10] which includes anarchists, communists and socialists.[18][19][20][21]Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than politically.[10]
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Looks like a lot of indulgent fantasy play to me.
You weren't there. You are indulging in fantasy. Proud Boys are a violent gang. They are now positioning snipers on roof tops.

The mayor is quite reasonably looking in to legal means of preventing them from getting demonstration permits.
 

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
You weren't there. You are indulging in fantasy. Proud Boys are a violent gang. They are now positioning snipers on roof tops.

The mayor is quite reasonably looking in to legal means of preventing them from getting demonstration permits.
I support not giving them a demonstration permit. Wow, nobody gets hurt with this approach and the mayor looks less like a dipshit.
 
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