Jacks (JR Peters) nutrients

[im4satori]

I'm still yet to learn how to use liquids in Hydro Buddy. I need to get a 100ml syringe so I can weigh it with 100 of something to figure out the density, and I assume I'll be able to figure it out beyond that point, but still need to get the syringe.

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nxsov gave you the proper answer for that
the numbers he suggested will work fine as is without doing the measuring and what not

 

[Skybound420]

nxsov gave you the proper answer for that
the numbers he suggested will work fine as is without doing the measuring and what not

If you're referring to >THIS< post, he only said to weigh 100ml and see what the overage is. I still need to track down a 100ml syringe. 35ml is the largest I use.

 

[Skybound420]

It's all going to be very very close to 1 gram per 1 ml since nearly all of the weight is water,and dissolved salt takes up roughly the same volume gram per gram. I don't really see much of a need to be so precise..

Here is the result of GH's 3part recirculating with all supps except Diamond Nectar. I left the density for all as default, and input the ml/Gal values from their chart into HB as g/Gal and here are the results.

 

[Skybound420]

Compared to my reference values, Fe and Mg are the only 2 in the desired range. Mn looks high compared to Jacks and Zn is really high compared to Jacks. NPK and Ca are out of range as well.

 

[Skybound420]

EEK!!! Here is the above schedule after my dumb ass was reducing 2.5/7.5/10 down to 1/3/4.

 

[Skybound420]

I zeroed the weights and tried inputting desired PPM levels for those listed, and it discontinued about half of the line and gave me the Lucas Formula as I remember seeing it relative to the GH line.



Edit - As I remember, the GH Lucas only used Micro and Bloom, so my mistake. But still, just the 3 part plus Armor Si. It wouldn't even use calimagic or koolbloom.

 

[im4satori]

Here is the result of GH's 3part recirculating with all supps except Diamond Nectar. I left the density for all as default, and input the ml/Gal values from their chart into HB as g/Gal and here are the results.

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ah bro

your missing something in this post

these numbers are in ratio to what your going for... your just running it at a higher EC

but if you look at the ratio of N:K its 2:3 which fits the ratio

if you reduce the overall EC your mix would be in range, and the GH products are always high on P

youd be lacking in magnesium and need 1/4 tsp per gallon added in or 1 gram per gallon

looking at that mix id say your over fertilizing is causing the lock out, if you mix it the same way at a lower EC and add some Epsom salt youd be good (if you don't mid the excessive P

 

[im4satori]

theres are several ways to mix the GH three part

try this for bloom

2.5 grow
5 micro
7.5 bloom
2 kool bloom
2 calmag


or

6 grow
3 micro
6 bloom
4 calmag

 

[Skybound420]

theres are several ways to mix the GH three part

try this for bloom

Here are the results of those and IMO, they don't look great. I'm feeling a lot better about my choice to switch brands. I can go through all the popular brands now and crunch the numbers and compare one to the next looking for commonality or agreement.

 

[swedsteven]

How this look my old nute i just try to make a mix that look semilar to jack321

NO COMPUTER LOL SRY

What you guys think this could be a good bloom recipe and now i will try to up the calmag to see for better veg recipe

 

[swedsteven]

When i get the jack 123 order i might add some epsom salt to bring the calcium magnesium sulfur higher in that mix and de k lower a bit .

I wonder if the dolomite lime. calcium and magnesium are avaible if so that mix is already perfect ?

 

[im4satori]

Here are the results of those and IMO, they don't look great. I'm feeling a lot better about my choice to switch brands. I can go through all the popular brands now and crunch the numbers and compare one to the next looking for commonality or agreement.

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hmmm
im getting some different numbers than you that im guessing has to do with the calmag

id ask you to check the calmag and make sure its registering, looking at the numbers im not seeing the boost in calcium, nitrogen and iron you should have


question; your not working with the hard water version are you?

 

[Skybound420]

In the upper/right area of my pics is the dose amount and CaliMagic is set to 2.5 in the first and 2 in the second.

 

[im4satori]

In the upper/right area of my pics is the dose amount and CaliMagic is set to 2.5 in the first and 2 in the second.

that looks right but the program isn't factoring in the calimagic

your numbers are perfectly the same as what I get when I remove the calmag from the mix

for example

6:3:6 G:M:B

71N
41P
138K
32 Mg
40 Ca
0.79 Fe


which is what youre getting

but when you add in the 4 mls calmag it jumps the N 92 , Mg 44 , Ca 73, Fe 1.89


not sure why your calmag isn't showing up in the mix
you can proof it by removing the calmag and the numbers will still remain the same

every ounce in a while hydrobuddy will do some weird shit

 

[Skybound420]

FYI, I'm using GH's CALiMAGic, not Botanicare's CalMag, so maybe that's the difference?

(1% N, 5% Ca, 1.5% Mg)

 

[swedsteven]

So I am guessing that my mix is good ?
Compare to jack321
Yesterday i read from page 27 a lot off info thx im4satori for braking down all off it .

 

[im4satori]

FYI, I'm using GH's CALiMAGic, not Botanicare's CalMag, so maybe that's the difference?

(1% N, 5% Ca, 1.5% Mg)

that does make a difference, but in this case it should mean your calcium number is even higher because the bontanicare calmag has 3.2% calcium

so your numbers should have thrown even higher calcium than mine at 5%

for some reason your not getting the addition of the calimagic product in the formula

like I said run the mix again without the calimagic and you will see no change in the ppm of the Ca or Fe or Mg and youll realize it not working proper


btw I do have the botanicare calmag as my input so you will end up only needing 3mls per gallon of calimagic at 5%

 

[im4satori]

How this look my old nute i just try to make a mix that look semilar to jack321

NO COMPUTER LOL SRY
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What you guys think this could be a good bloom recipe and now i will try to up the calmag to see for better veg recipe

bro I cant make heads or tales out of that...sorry

take pics of the labels of each product your using so I can see the % amounts listed on the label

do it so its very easy for me to understand the name of each bottle and whats in it and I will run your numbers and see what you've got

 

[swedsteven]

Pure blend pro

Calmag

Potassium sulfate

Ratio
50ml pure blend pro
25ml calmag
2.5g potassium sulfate

 

[im4satori]

one last bit of info to factor

the calmag amount is based on your source water having zero calcium in it

if the source water contains calcium you may need even less calmag

for example if you have hard water from a well your likely getting 10 to 20ppm of calcium from the source water